From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #333 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, March 17 2008 Volume 10 : Number 333 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fwd: [idealcopy] OT: THE THE CAMPAIGN FILM [giluz ] RE: [idealcopy] wire manc gig ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: Fwd: [idealcopy] OT: THE THE CAMPAIGN FILM Arrrrggghhh, forgot to press the reply all button - this is my original message: - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: giluz Date: 16 Mar 2008 14:51 Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: THE THE CAMPAIGN FILM To: elektrolad On 10/03/2008, elektrolad wrote: > > > THE THE have made a short campaign film against > massive property development in East London. It's funny, 'cause in Tel-Aviv, where I live, we have a similar problem, but London is quite often mentioned as a big city where property development policies take into consideration more than just the big investors. I guess everything's relative, but just to give you some examples, flat rent rates in TA are sort of similar to London and NY, the centre of town is gradually being taken over by rich jews, mainly French, who use them only for a month or two, leaving it empty most of the year. Not to mention all of the new skyscrapers projects, planned to be built in TA's 'oldest' areas (the city was built less than 100 years ago), disreagarding the style and character of the older buildings, and of course, no plans whatsoever for any projects intended for people whose income is average or even more than average. I didn't know The The still exist - I played some tracks off Infected a few months ago, and I guess the next time I'm gonna play another The The album will not be in the next 15 years. Johnson's debut, Burning Blue Soul, very far cry from the pop approach of later works, though, is still mostly good. giluz - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:07:35 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] wire manc gig I'm still trying to juggle work/cycling/cash to see which show/s I can make. At the moment, scooting up the motorway to Manchester seems the most likely option. Despite having relatives in Holland who could put me up it would still work out quite pricey to get to Utrecht etc., though I'd love to be there and it really isn't far in comparative terms when you consider how far our American/Middle Eastern cousins would have to go. B PS Keith A - the 1994 pressing of 154 will be in the post on Monday. Cheers! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Keith A Sent: 15 March 2008 13:40 To: PAUL RABJOHN; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire manc gig Well I'm going! Got my ticket the other day. Going with my eldest and a couple of mates, one of whom has never been a Wire fan and hasn't been to a gig with us in ages, but I'm quietly confident he'll enjoy it!! I like the Academy II. There's nothing special about it on the face of things - as Tim said it's just a large room really - but I've seen some great gigs there over the years. Indeed, as the Royal Court in Liverpool doesn't appear to be a gig venue these days, I'd probably list it as my fave current venue, so the prospect of seeing Wire there is seriously exciting! As for Skeletons & The Kings of All Cities, they had a rather interesting album out last year entitled Lucas. It was one that definitely required a few plays as it seemed to wash over you at first, but it was an interesting release nonetheless. (I reviewed it for the Birmingham Post and gave 4/5. I'll include the review below if anyone is interested) I'm also hoping to make the Leuven gig and finally meet Glenn, one of the quiet members of this list, but until I've booked everything I'm trying not to get too excited about that!! K. np Textile Ranch/Charles Atlas - ep. LUCAS - Skeletons and the Kings Of All Cities (Ghostly Records) Lucas is named after a small town in Kansas, 'where the Garden of Eden is', according to Skeletons ringleader, Matt Mehlan. This is perhaps appropriate; not because of any paradise allegories, but because there is definitely something other worldly about it. The album may also have one foot on the other side, however, because for all the airy moments that makes you think it may float away from your grasp at any given moment, the somewhat deranged vocal arrangements lead you to conclude that there's something almost disturbing about Lucas at times. This is immediately apparent from opener What They Said with its warped Give Peace A Chance-like chant over some handclapping in an odd time signature that 70's prog gods Gentle Giant would have been proud of. Fake Tits has a more conventional melody over its busy early 80's beat, whilst Hey W'happens opens with elephant-like noises that inspired startled looks from shoppers as I drove into my local supermarket with the windows wound down. Pick of the crop though has to be Don't Worry which opens with an almost African feel punctuated by some Stax-like stabs from the horns, before things quieten down with Mehlan's soft, gloomy vocals at the fore, only for everything to suddenly explode. It's ten minutes of pure unbridled ambition. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the album peters out slightly after this, although the closing two tracks, the repetitive keyboard driven Sickness and Push 'im Out, with its nightmare jazz funeral feel, end matters on a suitably interesting high. It might need more than a few listens to fully engage, but there's more than enough to reward your perseverance here. **** - ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL RABJOHN" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: [idealcopy] wire manc gig > looking at the website , this manchester gig is billed as ; > > Saturday, May 3 at 7:00 PM > Wire plus Dirty Projectors / Chap / Skeletons & The Kings of All Cities / > Futuresonic > > at Manchester Academy 2 > > anyone local can advise on how big that venue it is and how likely to > sell out quickly? its #14 a pop. not heard any of those 4 other bands on > the bill ; are they local acts from manchester? > > p > at > aaaaooo Manchester Academy 2, England - Northwest www.thisisnorthcliffe.co.uk Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. 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Registered Office: Northcliffe Accounting Centre, PO Box 6795 St George Street, Leicester, LE1 1ZP, co no 272225, Registered in England and Wales, VAT no 243571174. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:26:18 -0400 From: eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: OT - Re: [idealcopy] Madman's Honey oh I am soooo in the mood for a Violet Crumble. Why oh why don't they sell them in the US? B - -another the paul (craving the honey like a madman) - -----Original Message----- From: johnny clash To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 8:33 pm Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V10 #329 i love violet crumbles but am most mad about turkish delight and the quality street assortments. 'ow 'bout you ari? On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:53 PM, wrote: > Tim, > > I couldn't agree with you more about this list - I used to post but find > that I only stick around because I am a Wire fan and want updates on > albums and > tours - otherwise this list is pretty dull these days. > not that everything has to be Wire or related but things are so far off > the > mark it's laughable. > when I have tried in the past to spark something there are no replys... > > oh well, so be it > - Robert > > > > In a message dated 3/13/2008 4:44:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org writes: > > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:26:41 +0000 > From: Tim > Subject: [idealcopy] Idealcopy Pinkflag Merger? > > Right i'm going to raise this one yet again. > > New Wire record, tour dates...these seem to have barely registered a > flicker of interest from most of you. > > This list is fast becoming a rather closed shop. Its like a fusty old > gentlemans club..."I say chaps I see Bauhaus have a new LP out" etc. > > Now that Wire finally has a proper website and is active once again I > for one would love it if we could finally go public as a proper online > forum as part of Pinkflag. > > I'm sure a lot of potential Idealcopyists are put off by the mailing > list format which is so old hat now and it would be nice to expand this > community once again, with all us senior IdealCopyists on hand to > dispense our pearls of wisdom and advice to the new wave of Wire fans! > > Come on surely its time? > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:45:45 -0700 From: "johnny clash" Subject: Re: OT - Re: [idealcopy] Madman's Honey oh but they do. down the street from me the violet crumbles and all manner of such things are right behind the register at the local supermarket. you might need to hit the local anglophile shop..............a nice bread pudding would go down nicely about now....or bangers and mash w/ stilton and a bottle of old peculier. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 8:26 PM, wrote: > oh I am soooo in the mood for a Violet Crumble. Why oh why don't they sell > them in the US? B > > > > -another the paul (craving the honey like a madman) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: johnny clash > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Sent: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 8:33 pm > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V10 #329 > > > > > > > > > i love violet crumbles but am most mad about turkish delight and the > quality > street assortments. 'ow 'bout you ari? > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:53 PM, wrote: > > > Tim, > > > > I couldn't agree with you more about this list - I used to post but find > > that I only stick around because I am a Wire fan and want updates on > > albums and > > tours - otherwise this list is pretty dull these days. > > not that everything has to be Wire or related but things are so far off > > the > > mark it's laughable. > > when I have tried in the past to spark something there are no replys... > > > > oh well, so be it > > - Robert > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/13/2008 4:44:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org writes: > > > > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:26:41 +0000 > > From: Tim > > Subject: [idealcopy] Idealcopy Pinkflag Merger? > > > > Right i'm going to raise this one yet again. > > > > New Wire record, tour dates...these seem to have barely registered a > > flicker of interest from most of you. > > > > This list is fast becoming a rather closed shop. Its like a fusty old > > gentlemans club..."I say chaps I see Bauhaus have a new LP out" etc. > > > > Now that Wire finally has a proper website and is active once again I > > for one would love it if we could finally go public as a proper online > > forum as part of Pinkflag. > > > > I'm sure a lot of potential Idealcopyists are put off by the mailing > > list format which is so old hat now and it would be nice to expand this > > community once again, with all us senior IdealCopyists on hand to > > dispense our pearls of wisdom and advice to the new wave of Wire fans! > > > > Come on surely its time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #333 ********************************