From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #332 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, March 16 2008 Volume 10 : Number 332 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Cash and carry - dollars and yen [Fergus Kelly ] [idealcopy] o.t: better watch out.......... [Ari Subject: [idealcopy] Cash and carry - dollars and yen In relation to Electrolad's link to the Save Shoreditch campaign, in terms of spreading the word, I flagged it in the photographer's website Flickr, within which there are a number of London groups. One that I am a member of is London-alt, which has 4,387 members, so my post will hit a fairly sizeable constituency. There has been some response so far, though one was from some gobshite who doesn' understand what the campaign is against ! God help us ! http://www.flickr.com/groups/london-alt/discuss Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:04:15 -0700 From: "johnny clash" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Cash and carry - dollars and yen i posted it in myspace bulletins On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Fergus Kelly wrote: > In relation to Electrolad's link to the Save > Shoreditch campaign, in terms of spreading the word, I > flagged it in the photographer's website Flickr, > within which there are a number of London groups. One > that I am a member of is London-alt, which has 4,387 > members, so my post will hit a fairly sizeable > constituency. There has been some response so far, > though one was from some gobshite who doesn' > understand what the campaign is against ! God help us > ! > > http://www.flickr.com/groups/london-alt/discuss > > Fergus > > http://www.roomtemperature.org > http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings > http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:39:49 -0000 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire manc gig Well I'm going! Got my ticket the other day. Going with my eldest and a couple of mates, one of whom has never been a Wire fan and hasn't been to a gig with us in ages, but I'm quietly confident he'll enjoy it!! I like the Academy II. There's nothing special about it on the face of things - as Tim said it's just a large room really - but I've seen some great gigs there over the years. Indeed, as the Royal Court in Liverpool doesn't appear to be a gig venue these days, I'd probably list it as my fave current venue, so the prospect of seeing Wire there is seriously exciting! As for Skeletons & The Kings of All Cities, they had a rather interesting album out last year entitled Lucas. It was one that definitely required a few plays as it seemed to wash over you at first, but it was an interesting release nonetheless. (I reviewed it for the Birmingham Post and gave 4/5. I'll include the review below if anyone is interested) I'm also hoping to make the Leuven gig and finally meet Glenn, one of the quiet members of this list, but until I've booked everything I'm trying not to get too excited about that!! K. np Textile Ranch/Charles Atlas - ep. LUCAS - Skeletons and the Kings Of All Cities (Ghostly Records) Lucas is named after a small town in Kansas, 'where the Garden of Eden is', according to Skeletons ringleader, Matt Mehlan. This is perhaps appropriate; not because of any paradise allegories, but because there is definitely something other worldly about it. The album may also have one foot on the other side, however, because for all the airy moments that makes you think it may float away from your grasp at any given moment, the somewhat deranged vocal arrangements lead you to conclude that there's something almost disturbing about Lucas at times. This is immediately apparent from opener What They Said with its warped Give Peace A Chance-like chant over some handclapping in an odd time signature that 70's prog gods Gentle Giant would have been proud of. Fake Tits has a more conventional melody over its busy early 80's beat, whilst Hey W'happens opens with elephant-like noises that inspired startled looks from shoppers as I drove into my local supermarket with the windows wound down. Pick of the crop though has to be Don't Worry which opens with an almost African feel punctuated by some Stax-like stabs from the horns, before things quieten down with Mehlan's soft, gloomy vocals at the fore, only for everything to suddenly explode. It's ten minutes of pure unbridled ambition. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the album peters out slightly after this, although the closing two tracks, the repetitive keyboard driven Sickness and Push 'im Out, with its nightmare jazz funeral feel, end matters on a suitably interesting high. It might need more than a few listens to fully engage, but there's more than enough to reward your perseverance here. **** - ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL RABJOHN" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: [idealcopy] wire manc gig > looking at the website , this manchester gig is billed as ; > > Saturday, May 3 at 7:00 PM > Wire plus Dirty Projectors / Chap / Skeletons & The Kings of All Cities / > Futuresonic > > at Manchester Academy 2 > > anyone local can advise on how big that venue it is and how likely to > sell out quickly? its #14 a pop. not heard any of those 4 other bands on > the bill ; are they local acts from manchester? > > p > at > aaaaooo Manchester Academy 2, England - Northwest ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:01:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] o.t: better watch out.......... http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/15/japanese-isps-to-ban-file-sharers/ So now we can't even download concerts that were on the telly, video's that were never released on dvd or any other non-produced for commercial use stuff, fuck them, may they rot in hell. A ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:19:58 -0700 From: "johnny clash" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] o.t: better watch out.......... nuking the bastards was paying it forward? On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Ari wrote: > http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/15/japanese-isps-to-ban-file-sharers/ > > So now we can't even download concerts that were on the telly, video's > that were never released on dvd or any other non-produced for commercial use > stuff, fuck them, may they rot in hell. A > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:47:35 -0000 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Idealcopy Pinkflag Merger? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Ideal Copy" Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:26 AM Subject: [idealcopy] Idealcopy Pinkflag Merger? > Right i'm going to raise this one yet again. > > New Wire record, tour dates...these seem to have barely registered a > flicker of interest from most of you. > I like it as it is tbh, though I wish it wasn't so quiet here these days. Anyway, here's something on-topic... This months Mojo has an article about the Roxy Club, through the eyes of members of the likes of the Pistols, Damned, X Ray Spex, Adverts, etc, but not Wire. They do get mentioned though, so for the benfit of non-UK readers this is what was mentioned... Barry Jones (partner in Roxy): Bands usually came to me or were steered my way, I was given dozens of demo cassttes. It seemed like everyone was in a band...We found Wire that way. Mike Thorne: Like CBGB's, the Roxy was a crucible, but it was challenging, the crowd took no prisoners. After Wire first played a shambolic show as a five-piece fronted by wild George Gill, Barry told them to go away and practice. They returned without George. Out of nowhere, Wire rose to the occasion of an audience of a dozen indifferent punters, one of whom tried to walk off with the vocal monitor mid-set! Keith NP Edwyn Collins - Home Again (Early plays I'm liking this a lot) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:37:04 -0700 From: "johnny clash" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Idealcopy Pinkflag Merger? i feel as though i am pressured to respond that i have a huge throbbing turgid erection every time someone mentions the new record...so i will. as the band is in belgium and i am in california i doubt i'll leapfrog across the pond to catch it. the new mojo is super cool. barry is out here, ya know. also if you knew barry, you may know steve dior who's based in the uk now and is currently touring eurabia now. edwyn collins material is great! been enjoying it myslef. have a good one On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Keith A wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim" > To: "Ideal Copy" > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:26 AM > Subject: [idealcopy] Idealcopy Pinkflag Merger? > > > > Right i'm going to raise this one yet again. > > > > New Wire record, tour dates...these seem to have barely registered a > > flicker of interest from most of you. > > > > I like it as it is tbh, though I wish it wasn't so quiet here these days. > > Anyway, here's something on-topic... > > This months Mojo has an article about the Roxy Club, through the eyes of > members of the likes of the Pistols, Damned, X Ray Spex, Adverts, etc, but > not Wire. > > They do get mentioned though, so for the benfit of non-UK readers this is > what was mentioned... > > Barry Jones (partner in Roxy): Bands usually came to me or were steered my > way, I was given dozens of demo cassttes. It seemed like everyone was in a > band...We found Wire that way. > > Mike Thorne: Like CBGB's, the Roxy was a crucible, but it was challenging, > the crowd took no prisoners. After Wire first played a shambolic show as a > five-piece fronted by wild George Gill, Barry told them to go away and > practice. They returned without George. Out of nowhere, Wire rose to the > occasion of an audience of a dozen indifferent punters, one of whom tried > to > walk off with the vocal monitor mid-set! > > Keith > > NP Edwyn Collins - Home Again (Early plays I'm liking this a lot) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #332 ********************************