From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #305 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, February 12 2008 Volume 10 : Number 305 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... [Ari ] [idealcopy] O.T: for Wilco fans [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... [PAUL RABJOHN ] Fwd: [idealcopy] Introduction O.T. ["johnny clash" ] Fwd: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... ["johnny clash" ] Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... [elektrolad ] [idealcopy] Art Rock [Bart van Damme ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:48:18 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... so how much are licences these daze? and what if you 'watch telly' on the 'puter? A - ----- Original Message ---- From: "MarkBursa@aol.com" To: B.Clements@bepp.co.uk; idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 4:08:53 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... >>Not sure about BBC2, certainly the digi channel BBC3 has been getting its money's worth from this one! << Puh-lease. It's a BBC4 job, not the risible BBC3 "yoof" bollocks channel, which is this month treating us to a Lily Allen chat show. Licence money grumble mutter etc. Mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:03:02 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: for Wilco fans http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15164119 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:11:52 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... quite a lot , but probably worth it. you pay however you watch it , and get arrested if you are naughty and don't bother. regarding devo , the point gerald v was making was that virgin/warners offerred a whole lot more cash than stiff. i don't think he was on a mission to get rich , but devo had a vision that clearly needed a lot of resources to get it to happen. unlike , say , jona lewie or mickey jupp. history kind of proved his point really. those stiff shows were very good though. since then i've read the Kursaal Flyers book (by the drummer) which gives a very funny alternative take to the mid-70's pub rock pre-punk scene. highly recommended. p Ari wrote: so how much are licences these daze? and what if you 'watch telly' on the 'puter? A - ----- Original Message ---- From: "MarkBursa@aol.com" To: B.Clements@bepp.co.uk; idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 4:08:53 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... >>Not sure about BBC2, certainly the digi channel BBC3 has been getting its money's worth from this one! << Puh-lease. It's a BBC4 job, not the risible BBC3 "yoof" bollocks channel, which is this month treating us to a Lily Allen chat show. Licence money grumble mutter etc. Mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:16:05 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... Ah, but I was discussing this very point only ten days ago with someone who doesn't own a TV but can now watch BBC programmes legitimately through iPlayer on his PC without a licence, in the same way that he can listen to the radio without a licence. Which seems to me to open up all sorts of issues re the licence fee. Sorry, for non-UK listees this is similar to arguing about angels dancing on the edge of a pin - but Ari did start it! Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of PAUL RABJOHN Sent: 11 February 2008 13:12 To: Ari; MarkBursa@aol.com; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... quite a lot , but probably worth it. you pay however you watch it , and get arrested if you are naughty and don't bother. Ari wrote: so how much are licences these daze? and what if you 'watch telly' on the 'puter? A ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:43:17 -0800 From: "Rudolph Carrera" Subject: [idealcopy] Introduction Hello, folks; My name is Rudy Carrera. I run a couple of small websites (listed below), and published some music in partnership with a few labels some years ago. My main interest is in experimental, improvisational and world music. I'm looking forward to see what this list has to offer. - -- Regards, Rudy Carrera http://clcx.org/ http://rudycarrera.com/music http://myspace.com/racarrera ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:01:47 -0800 From: "johnny clash" Subject: Fwd: [idealcopy] Introduction O.T. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rudolph Carrera Date: Feb 11, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Introduction To: idealcopy@smoe.org Hello, folks; My name is Rudy Carrera. I run a couple of small websites (listed below), and published some music in partnership with a few labels some years ago. My main interest is in experimental, improvisational and world music. I'm looking forward to see what this list has to offer. - -- Regards, Rudy Carrera http://clcx.org/ http://rudycarrera.com/music http://myspace.com/racarrera ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:16:28 +0000 (GMT) From: elektrolad Subject: RE: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... How many angels? - --- Keith Knight wrote: > Ah, but I was discussing this very point only ten > days ago with someone > who doesn't own a TV but can now watch BBC > programmes legitimately > through iPlayer on his PC without a licence, in the > same way that he can > listen to the radio without a licence. Which seems > to me to open up all > sorts of issues re the licence fee. > > Sorry, for non-UK listees this is similar to arguing > about angels > dancing on the edge of a pin - but Ari did start it! > > Another the Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of PAUL RABJOHN > Sent: 11 February 2008 13:12 > To: Ari; MarkBursa@aol.com; idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... > > quite a lot , but probably worth it. you pay however > you watch it , and > get arrested if you are naughty and don't bother. > > > > Ari wrote: > so how much are licences these daze? and what if > you 'watch telly' on > the 'puter? > A > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:35:45 -0800 From: "johnny clash" Subject: Fwd: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: johnny clash Date: Feb 11, 2008 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... To: elektrolad On Feb 11, 2008 9:16 PM, elektrolad wrote: > How many angels? > > --- Keith Knight wrote: > > > Ah, but I was discussing this very point only ten > > days ago with someone > > who doesn't own a TV but can now watch BBC > > programmes legitimately > > through iPlayer on his PC without a licence, in the > > same way that he can > > listen to the radio without a licence. Which seems > > to me to open up all > > sorts of issues re the licence fee. > > > > Sorry, for non-UK listees this is similar to arguing > > about angels > > dancing on the edge of a pin - but Ari did start it! > > > > Another the Keith > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > > [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > > Behalf Of PAUL RABJOHN > > Sent: 11 February 2008 13:12 > > To: Ari; MarkBursa@aol.com; idealcopy@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... > > > > quite a lot , but probably worth it. you pay however > > you watch it , and > > get arrested if you are naughty and don't bother. > > we should be arrested for watching some of the tripe that is on tv. i remember when our lives were so exciting we never watched this sad sack of cop shows anyway. > > > > > > > Ari wrote: > > so how much are licences these daze? and what if > > you 'watch telly' on > > the 'puter? > > A > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try > it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:39:40 +0000 (GMT) From: elektrolad Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... - --- johnny clash wrote: > we should be arrested for watching some of the tripe > that is on tv. i > remember when our lives were so exciting we never > watched this sad sack of > cop shows anyway. > > > But we don't get in trouble for downloading tv shows and burning onto a dvd. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:35:03 +0000 (GMT) From: elektrolad Subject: Re: [idealcopy] If it ain't on again... They make a big deal about the HD broadcasting switchover next year in the US. I am one of the 13 million untetherd households so I'll need the a/d converter box. No real reason to upgrade to HD. TV is mostly shite. What I like is online or dvds. - --- johnny clash wrote: > am3n to that > > On Feb 11, 2008 9:39 PM, elektrolad > wrote: > > > --- johnny clash > wrote: > > > > > > > we should be arrested for watching some of the > tripe > > > that is on tv. i > > > remember when our lives were so exciting we > never > > > watched this sad sack of > > > cop shows anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > But we don't get in trouble for downloading tv > shows > > and burning onto a dvd. > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there > knows the answer. Try > > it > > now. > > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:38:22 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: [idealcopy] Art Rock http://www.mcachicago.org/exhibitions/exh_detail.php?id=56 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/30/arts/design/30spea.html?ref=arts ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #305 ********************************