From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #259 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, December 13 2007 Volume 10 : Number 259 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] The next Christmas #1? ["Keith A" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:30:50 -0000 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The next Christmas #1? A mate tested me on what particular year's xmas no one were yesterday. Funnily enough I knew what, say, the '74 one was immdiately, whereas 2003...er...pass. Never heard anything I liked by B&S though, Keith. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Knight" To: "'Keith A'" ; "'Tim'" ; "'Idealcopy'" Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:27 AM Subject: RE: [idealcopy] The next Christmas #1? > Only in that Belle and Sebastian wrote a song called 'The Boy with the > Arab Strap' Keith. Which of course was some sort of in-joke. And - two > things here - > > 1) that shouldn't put you off the wonderful Arab Strap who for a decade > produced music which referenced virtually no-one else (beyond Glaswegian > drunks) and whose music - as I've said more than once when drunk to a > disbelieving audience - will be played long after we're dead as it > summarises relationships in the late 90s more than anything else; and > > 2) Belle & Sebastian are only occasionally dreaded. Sometimes - as > with the last album - they are bloody wonderful. > > As for the Christmas #1 - no, I don't care a lot. But to suggest, as > Tim does, that this is some magical decision by the under-30s > downloading public ignores the fact that X-Factor rules this these days > in the UK. So, if this still means something to the culture - and it > does in some base way - rather Malcolm Middleton than Simon Cowell's > creature. > > Another the Keith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Keith A > Sent: 11 December 2007 10:48 > To: Tim; Idealcopy > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The next Christmas #1? > > Blimey. Get out of bed the wrong side this morning, Tim?! ; ) > > Anyway, I'm confused now. I pretty much avoided Arab Strap, because > wasn't > there some connection with the dreaded Belle & Bloody Sebastian? > > I thought we were talking about this little fella. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/malcolm/ > > ; ) > > > np Julian Cope - you gotta problem with me > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim" > To: "Idealcopy" > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:34 AM > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The next Christmas #1? > > >> Nooooo! I feel a rant coming on! No Offence whatsoever to Mr Knight >> but... >> >> Ah come on does anyone really give a fuck who gets Xmas no.1 anymore > since >> you probably have to sell about 200 records to make no.1 these days. >> >> >> That said I hope that the No.1 spot is filled by a POP RECORD chosen > by >> people under the age of 30 rather than one hyped to No.1 by Radio-1s >> Colin-Lee-Travis and 50,000 bored office workers on Facebook who (in >> between spending $1 to send each other a picture of a traffic cone or >> playing virtual snowball fights) think that it would be "like really >> maaaad if that bloke from Arab Strap was No.1 and then we could >> congratulate ourselves on how ironic it was". Ho fucking ho. >> >> In his younger days, to earn a few bob Noddy Holder from Slade used to > >> crap on people for money while they sat under a glass coffee table. No > >> really he did, read his biog. >> I'm hoping he'll be persuaded to crap on everyone who plays virtual >> snowball fights on Facebook (Splat ho ho uhhh I got you!), Colin > Murray >> and all the wacky funsters from Radio 1 live on the Xmas Day edition > of >> Top of the Pops while singing "Merry Xmas Everybody". And then he'll > be >> joined by Roy Wood and Clive Dunn to crap on Gary Jules *without* the >> Coffee Table...theres a "mad world" for you Gary. >> >> >> >> Keith Knight wrote: >>> I don't know whether to be cheered or not that Malcolm Middleton's >>> 'We're All Gonna Die' is now 12-1 to be the UK Christmas Number One, >>> following support from Radio 1. On the one hand this is from the > album >>> which has occupied my album of the year spot for the last six months. >>> On the other hand it could result in him being regarded as the new > Gary >>> Jules and resigned to some one-hit wonder novelty ghetto. >>> Strangely you only have to skew reality a tiny bit for it to be >>> plausible - it's relatively easy to imagine people in Christmas hats >>> bopping to the chorus of "You're gonna die, you're gonna die, you're >>> gonna die alone". It IS very catchy. >>> http://www.myspace.com/malcolmmiddleton The video with the > children's >>> choir and sleigh bells is particularly >>> affecting. >>> Another the Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:52:53 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] a load of B&S While I totally understand people not liking B&S I think they're fantastic myself. It took me a while to really appreciate them though. Have you tried White Collar Boy [The Life Pursuit]? Some of my faves: I Fought In A War, Dear Catastrophe Waitres, The Boy Done Wrong Again, Act of the Apostle, Is It Wicked Not To Care?, Nice Day for a Sulk Bart > Never heard anything I liked by B&S though, Keith. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #259 ********************************