From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #239 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, November 18 2007 Volume 10 : Number 239 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) ["Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) > Battles also came precariously close to Jazz Fusion last time I saw > them....they nibble at the coat of prog also but in much the same way Can > did. Not a goblin or Elf in sight tho. Saw them on Later last week, and wasn't impressed. They had a decent beat for sure, but if I wanted to listen to silly speeded up vocals, I'd dig out my battered childhood copy of Bridget The Midget. Honestly, I thought that number was awful beyond words. Someone on another list said I missing the point! That the vocal bit was just hammed up for the show, but I can only judge on what I hear. And that performance certainly didn't inspire me to check them out, which is surely the point of the show? Maybe they should have issued a disclaimer! K. NP Teardrop Explodes - piano ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:10:21 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] I'll bet 'Des' can,,,(was visit the museum of backward hats) ...........inform us on this mystery, Des? A - ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 9:04:39 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] visit the museum of backward hats Well, The blurb on pinkflag says: "Colin Newman, Graham Lewis, Robert Grey *and* Bruce Gilbert continue to work on new material, regularly confounding expectations.." which suggests Bruce is in. But if you look at the most recent photo of the band on the site, albeit from 2006 http://www.pinkflag.com/assets/look/gallery/portraits/2006-malka-spigel.jpg Notice someone missing? I'm sure all will become clear. Good to have Wire keeping us all guessing anyway. steve ninehouser wrote: > I really don't think it's true that BG is not involved (though I could > be wrong). Firstly, I don't recall any formal announcement on his > leaving Wire and secondly, on the front page banner advertising R&B03 > on PinkFlag.com all 4 members are pictured. Though Wir did exist at > one point, I find it hard to believe that Wire would continue on at > this stage in their career without all 4 members contributing. > > On Nov 16, 2007 3:13 PM, wrote: >> Wow...How come no BCG? >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: David McKenzie >> Date: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:20 am >> Subject: Re: [idealcopy] visit the museum of backward hats >> >> >>>> On a kind of irrelevant note, are we now in Wire Mk IV, or still >>> III?> >>>> And is BCG still involved? >>> I think it may be Wi*e >>> And - so far as I know BCG is not involved. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:23:19 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) I love Battles! Intelligent, minimalistic and freaked up tribal beats! Their excellent Atlas makes me dance like a child again. Battle's Mirrored together with Von Sudenfed's Tromatic Reflexxions must be my two fave albums of the year so far! The spot on Marc Bolan reference in this Pitchfork review may lure you in Keith ;-) http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/42910-mirrored For those not yet familiar with Battles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7AgpaeTaVw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpGp-22t0lU Bart >> Battles also came precariously close to Jazz Fusion last time I >> saw them....they nibble at the coat of prog also but in much the >> same way Can did. Not a goblin or Elf in sight tho. > > > Saw them on Later last week, and wasn't impressed. They had a > decent beat for sure, but if I wanted to listen to silly speeded up > vocals, I'd dig out my battered childhood copy of Bridget The Midget. > > Honestly, I thought that number was awful beyond words. > > Someone on another list said I missing the point! That the vocal > bit was just hammed up for the show, but I can only judge on what I > hear. And that performance certainly didn't inspire me to check > them out, which is surely the point of the show? > > Maybe they should have issued a disclaimer! > > K. > > NP Teardrop Explodes - piano ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:45:55 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) Well, that's how the vocal on the song - 'Atlas' - sounds, so I don't think they were doing anything especially for Later. I think it's a great song, superbly constructed and impossible not to submit to whether on CD, TV or live (saw 'em at Green Man). Prog rarely dealt in the sheer dance-ability that Atlas has - there may be some 'difficult' playing in it but it's a long way from Close to the Edge. I just don't nibble the coat of prog, I take it out and wear it regularly. Rather good Later last night I thought, if you take Stereophonics out of the equation. Particularly enjoyed Peej and the El Gusto orchestra. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Keith A Sent: 14 November 2007 11:19 To: Tim Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) > Battles also came precariously close to Jazz Fusion last time I saw > them....they nibble at the coat of prog also but in much the same way Can > did. Not a goblin or Elf in sight tho. Saw them on Later last week, and wasn't impressed. They had a decent beat for sure, but if I wanted to listen to silly speeded up vocals, I'd dig out my battered childhood copy of Bridget The Midget. Honestly, I thought that number was awful beyond words. Someone on another list said I missing the point! That the vocal bit was just hammed up for the show, but I can only judge on what I hear. And that performance certainly didn't inspire me to check them out, which is surely the point of the show? Maybe they should have issued a disclaimer! K. NP Teardrop Explodes - piano ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:08:43 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) >>Rather good Later last night I thought, if you take Stereophonics out of the equation. Particularly enjoyed Peej and the El Gusto orchestra.<< Peej was great - saw her solo set a few weeks ago in Bristol, a real privilege. Suspect she'll not stay in this incarnation for long. Enjoyed Foals too - they've evolved from a Rapture tribute band into something of their own. As for Stereophonics, how dull can they get? It's almost like an art project to create the dullest strain of rock music in history. Mark ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #239 ********************************