From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #232 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, November 11 2007 Volume 10 : Number 232 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] strangled? ["Ian B" ] RE: [idealcopy] top 5 ["Keith Knight" ] RE: [idealcopy] Hello from PostEverything ["Andy Lumbard" ] Re: [idealcopy] strangled? ["graeme's ghost" ] [idealcopy] glad all over ["graeme's ghost" ] [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) [Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] strangled? Oh dear! I was actually idly speculating recently if we might be on the verge of a Hugh re-join. I'd noticed that his name on at least one of his current releases was written in Stranglers logo style. Maybe he's just trying to maximise the link and remind people. I took a speculative punt on one of his solo albums a couple of years back - Beyond Elysian Fields - which I spotted in a bargain bin; couldn't get on with it though. Looking at the track listing for a live Hugh album I notice he does a version of Irate Caterpiller. Not sure how that would work. Ian B - ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL RABJOHN" To: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: [idealcopy] strangled? > it just sounds too good to be true , but according to a live review in the guardian the stranglers have got rid of their karaoke singer. new replacement is sadly not hugh , but in his absence they've got another punk legend. yes , you guessed it , the singer of the toy dolls is now on board. > > rumours of a "nellie the elephant" encore are , i am sure , just idle speculation. p > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.27/1121 - Release Date: 09/11/2007 19:29 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:03:51 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] top 5 Coincidentally we were discussing this in the pub last night ahead of a Yeasayer gig. The winner was Richard Clayderman, which is pretty difficult to top. Yeasayer were formidably good last night and have come on since I saw them back in August. They're one of those bands who are interesting to look at as they don't seem to have much in common. Guitar / keyboards are courtesy of a very long haired, skinny native American looking guy (who I assume is Ira Wolf Tuton - this is not a band who shout personal info from the rooftops), the (excellent) bassist has pecs and a crappy moustache and looks like a porn star and the singer is an unassuming looking chap who turns into a revivalist preacher in the TV on the Radio mode. There's a drummer too. They look like the cast of the next season of Heroes. The music is ambitious, complex, keyboard based music, but with a strong drive and they deliver it triumphantly - this can't be easy music to play live. Or write. Some of the subtleties of epic single '2080' are lost (no children's choir for a start) but they reinterpret it well. This band gives me the sort of frisson that TV on the Radio (to mention them again) did when they first appeared - and one feels that they can go on to even greater things. They're touring the UK now, people: http://www.myspace.com/yeasayer another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com [mailto:CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Sent: 09 November 2007 11:52 To: steeleknight@lineone.net; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] top 5 Another The Keith That is a great cue for "embarrasing live acts seen". Although both The Swinging Blue Jeans or helen Shapiro would not count in my book. How about Dana who I saw in 1990 ish in Blackpool. My first Gig was aged 6 when my Mum & Dad took me to see The Bachelors !! Chris - who hopefully has moved on since then NP. GAK - Warp Records To Rococo Rot & I -Sound - Music Is a Hungry Ghost ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:19:16 -0000 From: "Andy Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Hello from PostEverything - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: 04 November 2007 19:30 To: Des Berry; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hello from PostEverything Des Berry wrote: > Hello everyone > > Des here from PostEverything. Hey Des, There truly find there is a widespread mix across this list, and coming from the other end of the scale, the mainstream end, I am currently listening to Battles - Mirrored The Kissaway Trail The Decemberists - The Crane Wife Spoon - Gagagagagagagagaga Interpol - Our Love to Admire AndyL > Anyway, the reason, why I joined the list was to get a feel for what fans of > the band are listening to and buying between Wire releases. Hit me with some > current top 5's! > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.24/1115 - Release Date: 07/11/2007 09:21 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:02:40 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] top 5 SBJ's Hippy Hippy Shakes was one of my fave of my parents' singles - perhaps even my very first musical love [age 4 or 5]. Bart > that MUST have been kewl! i still like their sound....that over all > sound....hippy hippy shake rawks! i remember helen shapiro....who > else had 2 number ones in the uk charts at age fourteen? you tube has > her on ready steady go with the flab four. i also have the 2cd sbj at > abbey road. it's pretty good. like a lot of the old rave up stuff > lately. fluff lyrics and concerns really, with little pretence, hence > quite refreshing. > > np:keynsham-bonzos > > >> I may never have mentioned that I once saw the Swinging Blue Jeans >> getting out of a car on a seafront (possibly Torquay) in around 64, >> dressed in smart suits. My first close-up exposure to popdom, >> although >> I had seen Helen Shapiro live by that stage I think. Or perhaps >> it was >> the same holiday... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:10:01 -0800 From: "graeme's ghost" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] strangled? i've heard most of hugh's solo stuff....though not beyond elysian fields....stranglers' suite 16 i thought one of the better releases of that year. even the norfolk coast thing was better than some previous outings. i would be pleased as anything to see them keep going. has anyone downloaded, free from their website, the old copies of strangled magazine? they are great! the recap of j.j. dragging the journalist up the eiffel tower and tying, and hanging him up there are priceless. also some great early year stories. they remind me of being 12 years old and watching guys run out of the front of the fillmore auditorium, in san francisco, and jump into a beat to shit 39 buick. there was a fat black guy yelling shotgun. he was buddy miles. the band was electric flag. they relate to me under the aegis of "living the blues". i can see the collection though....stranglers.the karaoke years. On Nov 10, 2007 3:49 AM, Ian B wrote: > Oh dear! > I was actually idly speculating recently if we might be on the verge of a > Hugh re-join. I'd noticed that his name on at least one of his current > releases was written in Stranglers logo style. Maybe he's just trying to > maximise the link and remind people. > I took a speculative punt on one of his solo albums a couple of years back - > Beyond Elysian Fields - which I spotted in a bargain bin; couldn't get on > with it though. > Looking at the track listing for a live Hugh album I notice he does a > version of Irate Caterpiller. Not sure how that would work. > Ian B > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "PAUL RABJOHN" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:39 PM > Subject: [idealcopy] strangled? > > > > it just sounds too good to be true , but according to a live review in the > guardian the stranglers have got rid of their karaoke singer. new > replacement is sadly not hugh , but in his absence they've got another punk > legend. yes , you guessed it , the singer of the toy dolls is now on board. > > > > rumours of a "nellie the elephant" encore are , i am sure , just idle > speculation. p > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.27/1121 - Release Date: > 09/11/2007 19:29 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:38:45 -0800 From: "graeme's ghost" Subject: [idealcopy] glad all over np:glad all over-wire-live at the roxy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:13:44 +0000 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > Another The Keith > That is a great cue for "embarrasing live acts seen". Although both The > Swinging Blue Jeans or helen Shapiro would not count in my book. > > How about Dana who I saw in 1990 ish in Blackpool. My first Gig was aged 6 > when my Mum & Dad took me to see The Bachelors !! > > Well I did go and see The Darkness once (it was an Xmas night out with friends)..Spinal Tap without the humour or the tunes. I also went to see a terrible band called The Bees who I hope are now forgotten, if not they should be buried underground in a lead casket. Some of you might find this next one controversial. I also recently went to see Mano Chau, with a mate who persuaded me to have his spare ticket. I thought they were appalling, but they seem to be very popular. Kind of interesting to watch everyone going really mad to what to my ears was the same song played over and over again. Each song started with a lumpen Cod Reggae preachy thing, which suddenly went a bit ska and then finally into a sort of punky stomp with lots of oi oi oi oi oi shouting. Everything had exactly the same chords. They did about 38 variations on this, each more boring than the last. (i'll let my very dear friend off this cos he's got very good ears but went cos he's a World Music buff. He wasn't overly impressed with the gig either) n.p The Gasman - Audiogold ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:41:36 +0100 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: [idealcopy] OT-herzoga + department s HERZOGA - Stoke three-piece making wrongpop, The Fall meets Girls Vs Boys meets Wire. We've gone on about them at length already here, you should have their debut split CD single by now - "Like early Art Brut wrestling with a pub outing of psychiatrists" - Steve Lamacq "A blistering set of twisted pop - - think Sonic Youth meets Pavement and you're on the way there" - BBC Radio Stoke - www.myspace.com/herzogaband - --anyone heard them? also..i get this from ORGAN SINGLE OF THE WEEK DEPARTMENT S / TERRY EDWARDS & THE SCAPEGOATS - My Coo Ca Choo/Cat People (Sartorial) - Department S back and reformed - quick, rush and tell Vic! Is he there? Stripped down and Ant-beat infected cover of the black leather clad contortionist Alvin Stardust's classic debut single that kind of sounds more like a lo-fi Shane Fenton and the Fentones thing than the original slice of 70's cooler than cool glam rock'n roll - brilliant! Single of the week already - - and on Romany blood red 7"vinyl as well! Single of the week well before we flipped it over for the even better slice of outrageous Bowieness in the shape a smouldering gasoline on the fire saxophone-drenched ska version of Cat People - Bowie never sounded so good! Brilliant, both sides of it! Outrageously brilliant! www.myspace.com/sartorialrecords or www.myspace.com/departments ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:49:43 +0900 From: "First Last" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] top 5 Renee and Renato supporting Freddie Starr! Where IS my coat............ TB NP The Mess Hall - Devils Elbow On Nov 11, 2007 1:02 AM, Bart van Damme wrote: > SBJ's Hippy Hippy Shakes was one of my fave of my parents' singles - > perhaps even my very first musical love [age 4 or 5]. > Bart > > > that MUST have been kewl! i still like their sound....that over all > > sound....hippy hippy shake rawks! i remember helen shapiro....who > > else had 2 number ones in the uk charts at age fourteen? you tube has > > her on ready steady go with the flab four. i also have the 2cd sbj at > > abbey road. it's pretty good. like a lot of the old rave up stuff > > lately. fluff lyrics and concerns really, with little pretence, hence > > quite refreshing. > > > > np:keynsham-bonzos > > > > > > >> I may never have mentioned that I once saw the Swinging Blue Jeans > >> getting out of a car on a seafront (possibly Torquay) in around 64, > >> dressed in smart suits. My first close-up exposure to popdom, > >> although > >> I had seen Helen Shapiro live by that stage I think. Or perhaps > >> it was > >> the same holiday... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:40:43 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) I've never seen Manu Chao live but I did buy his album before last back in 2001 (Proxima Estacion Esperansa) and, aside from the track I'd heard which had encouraged me to buy it, I thought it was pants. So I can well believe your review Tim. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: 11 November 2007 03:14 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Embarrasing live acts....(was Top 5) CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > Another The Keith > That is a great cue for "embarrasing live acts seen". Although both The > Swinging Blue Jeans or helen Shapiro would not count in my book. > > How about Dana who I saw in 1990 ish in Blackpool. My first Gig was aged 6 > when my Mum & Dad took me to see The Bachelors !! > > Well I did go and see The Darkness once (it was an Xmas night out with friends)..Spinal Tap without the humour or the tunes. I also went to see a terrible band called The Bees who I hope are now forgotten, if not they should be buried underground in a lead casket. Some of you might find this next one controversial. I also recently went to see Mano Chau, with a mate who persuaded me to have his spare ticket. I thought they were appalling, but they seem to be very popular. Kind of interesting to watch everyone going really mad to what to my ears was the same song played over and over again. Each song started with a lumpen Cod Reggae preachy thing, which suddenly went a bit ska and then finally into a sort of punky stomp with lots of oi oi oi oi oi shouting. Everything had exactly the same chords. They did about 38 variations on this, each more boring than the last. (i'll let my very dear friend off this cos he's got very good ears but went cos he's a World Music buff. He wasn't overly impressed with the gig either) n.p The Gasman - Audiogold ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:14:01 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] top 5 In a message dated 11/11/2007 07:58:14 GMT Standard Time, onetwothreeseventeenfortytwo@gmail.com writes: Renee and Renato supporting Freddie Starr! Where IS my coat............ TB Oh God no! Now that is bad !!! Chris NP Dinosaur Jr - Beyond ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:18:46 +0900 From: "First Last" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] top 5 Beyond bad! On Nov 11, 2007 6:14 PM, wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/11/2007 07:58:14 GMT Standard Time, > onetwothreeseventeenfortytwo@gmail.com writes: > Renee and Renato supporting Freddie Starr! > Where IS my coat............ > > TB > > Oh God no! Now that is bad !!! > > > Chris NP Dinosaur Jr - Beyond ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #232 ********************************