From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #220 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, October 27 2007 Volume 10 : Number 220 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Colin Newman's 'Alone' video [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Colin Newman's 'Alone' video ["David McKenzie" ] RE: [idealcopy] OT-library tapes/what's on your PC/mp3/4 players..recommendations ["Keith Knight" >I was just watching the video for Alone on YouTube. It shows a woman down in a hole or well and is a rather interesting video. But I was curious as to the source of the video. Does anyone know if this was an official video done at the time or more of a fan effort. Thanks.<< You could say it was a fan effort! It's from Silence of the Lambs, directed by Jonathan Demme. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:32:15 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Colin Newman's 'Alone' video I had totally forgotten that moment. One hopes Colin saw the royalties for that clip. They *did* use his version? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:44:45 +0100 From: "Ian Grant" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT-library tapes/what's on your PC/mp3/4 players..recommendations On 10/25/07, Tim wrote: > Disrupt - Foundation Bit - Fantastic re-imagining of dub music taking > the bass that one stage further. Genius. Seconded. A really, really enjoyable thing...and particularly timely, since dubstep seems to have disappeared up its own wobbly backside of the last few months, leaving me rather lacking in bass-heavy, head-nodding headphone fun. One or two other things... iLiKETRAiNS - Elegies to Lessons Learnt The more I listen to it, the more heroic and magnificent it seems. The idea is simple and yet interesting: taking swirly, elegant, stately post-rock of the kind that several others have already pioneered to fairly inconsequential effect, then using it to tell tales plucked from the history books. The result is considerably more than the sum of its parts, a dramatic, immensely powerful record full of all manner of desperation, death, futility, failure. There ain't many bands that'd kick off their debut album with a song about the plague. Still fewer, I imagine, would be capable of bringing it all so vividly to the mind's eye.... Skepta - Greatest Hits At long last, a grime album that doesn't feel either compromised and diluted or vastly over-indulgent. Which isn't to say that it's not approachable, 'cause there's definitely a playful pop element in the mix. But it's mercifully short, it's free of filler and clutter, and it kicks bloody hard when it needs to. A bit of a template for others who follow, hopefully. Looking forward to... Boxcutter - Glyphid Burial - Untrue ...and, of course, to Read and Burn #3. The apparent re-connection with Wire Mk II is something that excites me enormously, I must say. It feels rich with possibilities.... Cheers, ig. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:45:49 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Colin Newman's 'Alone' video In a message dated 26/10/2007 12:43:18 GMT Daylight Time, davidmack@gmail.com writes: had totally forgotten that moment. One hopes Colin saw the royalties for that clip. They *did* use his version? Oh yes I recognised the music as soon as I saw it in the cinema. Weird moment for me as I didn't know he had involvement with the film. Chris np Liars- self titled ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:12:01 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT-library tapes/what's on your PC/mp3/4 players..recommendat... In a message dated 26/10/2007 12:49:13 GMT Daylight Time, read.burn@gmail.com writes: Disrupt - Foundation Bit - Fantastic re-imagining of dub music taking > the bass that one stage further. Genius. Seconded. A really, really enjoyable thing...and particularly timely, since dubstep seems to have disappeared up its own wobbly backside of the last few months, leaving me rather lacking in bass-heavy, head-nodding headphone fun. I will have to check that out! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:47:42 -0700 From: Eric Scott Subject: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V10 #219 idealcopy-digest wrote: > <>idealcopy-digest Friday, October 26 2007 Volume 10 : Number 219 > > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:14:53 -0700 > From: Eric Strang > Subject: [idealcopy] Colin Newman's 'Alone' video > > I was just watching the video for Alone on YouTube. It shows a woman > down in a hole or well and is a rather interesting video. But I was > curious as to the source of the video. Does anyone know if this was an > official video done at the time or more of a fan effort. > Thanks. > > Eric > That was a fan effort -- by someone who stitched footage from "Silence Of The Lambs" together... the song was featured in the film's ambience, playing in the background of the killer's lair/home (say, what does that suggest about Colin's music? I'm too terrified to think it through!)... :) I really think that 'video' only partially works, it exhausts its momentum after a while, as it doesn't really marry the new images to the song in a terribly natural way... But it's a novel idea I guess. E - -- - ------------------------------------------------------ DAY for NIGHT voice: 818.718.2020 AIM: dayfornightmm ericscott@dayfornight.com http://www.dayfornight.com ====================================================== Day For Night ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:01:10 -0700 From: "graeme's ghost" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] tv eye / tube / Crass i thought there were a couple of interesting cuts on 'penis envy'....bata motel,berketex brides, i can't remember the others...where next columbus i don't remember that i liked. np: lancelot link episodes on you tube On 10/25/07, Bart van Damme wrote: > > Tonight on Dutch Public television the documentary "There's no > authority but yourself" will be broadcasted. > > I liked Crass' first 3 albums a lot round that time, but some recent > hearings did little for me. > > Bart > > > > >> Jeffrey Lewis and the Jitters. A rather interesting support band > >> open > >> called The Wave Pictures who have a songwriter who has fascinating > >> lyrical flights of fancy. Jeff, meanwhile, is touring his new > >> album '12 > >> Crass Songs' - which is 12 covers of songs by Crass rather than 12 > >> unpleasant songs. Can't say that the Essex crusties ever really did > >> much for me but in Jeff's hands the songs reveal themselves to be > >> rather > >> impressive - perhaps even more so now that a bit of anti- > >> establishment > >> polemic sounds rather quaint. Eve Libertine is invited on to sing a > >> song called (I think) Mother Earth and after looking a little > >> uncertain > >> she launches into a full-blown rant, like a psychotic Siouxsie, which > >> pins you to the spot. I'm rather regretting I didn't see them > >> live now. > >> Jeff then invites his uncle on, who performs as Professor Louie, who > >> does an effective rap about war and oil. The gig ends with a frenetic > >> version of 'No LSD Tonight' (I think I've said before that Jeff and > >> brother Jack could be a great thrash band if they wanted to limit > >> themselves to this). An encore is limited as the plug has been > >> pulled > >> but that doesn't stop our man as he performs a song unamplified with > >> keyboardist Helen Schreiner. Another Jeffrey Lewis gig, everyone > >> great, > >> everyone different. > >> > >> Another the Keith > >> > > -------------------- > > > > i liked Jeffrey's renditions of Crass, i thought it will be some > > gimmick > > maybe, but it was really nice listening. In fact, near Sylvian's " > > when loud > > weather ... " ambient/piece on heavy rotation in my mp4 player. > > btw, saw Sylvina other night..it was fantastic.. > > brilliant rendtion of Fennesz Transit... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:04:26 -0700 From: "graeme's ghost" Subject: [idealcopy] hey ari.....ot this is hilarious Cthulhu For President The Dawning of a New Era *Cthulhu for President. Why vote for a lesser evil?* ** http://www.cthulhu.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:56:44 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT-library tapes/what's on your PC/mp3/4 players..recommendations I really have tried to like iLIKETRAINS - I've heard this album and their previous mini-LP 'Progress Reform' and seen them live - on the grounds that any band with songs about Antarctic expeditions and the Beeching Report have to have something going for them. But they never quite do it for me - too one-paced, too easy to let the mind slide off into other thoughts. It's partly the vocals I think - they have no real impact on me whatsoever. A shame really - I'm still pining for the not dissimilar Flotation Toy Warning. Another the Keith Knight - ------------------- iLiKETRAiNS - Elegies to Lessons Learnt The more I listen to it, the more heroic and magnificent it seems. The idea is simple and yet interesting: taking swirly, elegant, stately post-rock of the kind that several others have already pioneered to fairly inconsequential effect, then using it to tell tales plucked from the history books. The result is considerably more than the sum of its parts, a dramatic, immensely powerful record full of all manner of desperation, death, futility, failure. There ain't many bands that'd kick off their debut album with a song about the plague. Still fewer, I imagine, would be capable of bringing it all so vividly to the mind's eye.... ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #220 ********************************