From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #214 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, October 21 2007 Volume 10 : Number 214 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] FW: Pinkflag News - 19.10.07 ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] R&B 03 ["steve ninehouser" ] Re: [idealcopy] R&B 03 [Tim ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:06:31 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: [idealcopy] FW: Pinkflag News - 19.10.07 Hey, we're 'often entertaining and nearly always good-natured'! Only 'often' mind. Right, off to order R&B 03. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: pinkflag [mailto:announce@pinkflag.com] Sent: 19 October 2007 20:22 To: Pinkflag Mailing list Subject: [Announce] Pinkflag News - 19.10.07 Dear Wire fan, Welcome to the newest edition of the Pinkflag mailing list, getting you all the latest Wire news first. Read & Burn 03 - pre-order now! You can now pre-order "Read & Burn 03" from Posteverything . The official release date is November 12, but we expect Posteverything might dispatch a little earlier, so order early and get your hands on the latest Wire material before anyone else! The EP can also be auditioned on Posteverything's streaming radio, thereby giving everyone the chance to sample what Wire's been cooking these past four-and-a-half years! We can't guarantee the "sound of the 2030s" as Pitchfork media would have it but nonetheless expect the unexpected - in true Wire style! Help promote Wire Anyone who's spent time reading the often entertaining and nearly always good-natured "Ideal Copy" list will know Wire fans are very often serious students of the culture that surrounds us all, and mines of information on many a varied subject. It occurred to us that this attention to detail and expertise could prove useful as we attempt to connect with the world that knows about Wire and is interested in it but doesn't know what we are doing right now. In general, Pinkflag uses the same promotional tools as any label - press officers, mail-outs, etc. - but we often wonder if we're reaching the right people with such a scatter-gun approach. This is where you come in. If you've ever opened your local paper and wondered why Wire never gets written about in the culture pages, you can help. It doesn't matter if you live in Cleveland, Ohio or Wiesbaden in Germany or Hong Kong - there will be a local paper/fanzine or website that has a page or section on music or culture. You'll know if they would ever be likely to review a Wire release, and you'll probably know which journalist would be most interested in something new from Wire. You might even personally know the right person to contact - if so, have them contact us through the feedback form on the website (or email us directly if you're the right person!). Alternatively, if you don't know the likely person on a personal basis, send us relevant contact details (preferably an email address) via the same contact form. If this proves successful, you'll obviously have had the pleasure of helping us out, but we wouldn't just leave it at that! If you're responsible for helping get some Wire press published, contact us and we'll give you the correct address to send a scan of a piece or a website link to, and in return we'll make available to you an exclusive download of a completely unreleased track! The video page The website now has a video page to continue our policy of making the Pinkflag site the home for as much about Wire as possible. The videos are embedded from Youtube (no need to duplicate what YouTube already does well) so you'll need to go there if you feel moved to comment. Yet more YouTube While Pinkflag as Wire's official representative on Earth only posts to YouTube content it officially owns, others will post whatever may prove interesting until someone objects, and so our latest YouTube collection starts with perhaps Wire's most infamous TV performance: "Drill" on Fox TV's Late Show during the mid-80s - complete with the famous Susan Somers ending "I'm gonna sing after the break, so don't come back"! Also, the Pink Flag collection continues with a travel video to accompany "Fragile" but perhaps the most disturbing contribution accompanies the Newman/Lewis song "Alone" (originally on "A-Z"), which does a lo-fi play on that song's inclusion in the movie "Silence of the Lambs"; you can find it at . And finally This newsletter and the website are complimentary resources. To keep abreast of Wire and and all its doings, we recommend checking Pinkflag.com regularly as well as being signed up to this mailing list. All the best, Pinkflag - -- URL: www.pinkflag.com MAILORDER/ NEWS: www.posteverything.com/pinkflag MYSPACE: www.myspace.com/wirehq E.MAIL: pinkflag@postverything.com c/o swim ~ PO Box 3459. LONDON SW19 6ES, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:25:05 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: [idealcopy] R&B 03 Oh, and you can hear the whole of R&B 03 if you log in to posteverything. Interesting - less savage than 01 and 02 and I suspect it will please those who got into them post-Pink Flag more. None of the tracks on two listens leap out at me as some of the stuff on 01 & 02 did but let's give them time. I suspect that '23 Years too Late' will be great live if for no other reason that it gives EGL a chance to declaim. Another the Keith ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:37:33 -0400 From: "steve ninehouser" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] R&B 03 On the first two listens, it definitely strikes me as quite a bit different than the other Send-era material. I do agree that this material isn't quite as immediate as other stuff from Wire mkIII, but I think I am going to end up enjoying it more. I hear some Githead influences in the composition of the music, and they also seem to be taking more of a spoken word direction with the vocals, which I am not exactly a fan of. "Desert Driving" & "No Warning Given" seem like pretty solid songs to me, but I don't feel quite as strongly about the first two. I am going to reserve judgement until I hear the proper versions on CD because it seems like quite a bit of sonic detail is lost in the streams. It's very cool that the band is allowing this stream though. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:56:33 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] R&B 03 Very Hard to judge these in streaming lo-fi medium wave...but I'll have a go... Is one of the lines in 23 Years not "...Copyists Target"?! I hope so. I'm liking this one, although at times it does sound like someone cutting between He Said/Githead and a Bruce Gilbert noise piece on some decks. Maybe its supposed to. Great bass, great noises and great to hear Wire stretching out over an extended piece. A complete contrast from the bursts of 4/4 thrash of Send already, and a fine statement of intent to start off with. Our Time is the most Githead like I feel, but with the beat straight off the Lowdown! This is a more subtle piece and doesn't cut through the lofi stream too well but this is clearly a rich, layered piece I want to hear properly. No Warning Given takes us back to the Send tempo but moves into much more colourful melodic territory than we've had from Wire for some time and ends with a nice build-up to a swirl of guitar chords. Some nods toward the poppier moments of Pink Flag with a dollop of Wire MkII. Desert Diving - Starts like a Heartbeat... And then we're into a great chugging groove, and a suitably surreal lyric. Sounds a bit like Kidney Bingoes meets Boiling Boy meets Heartbeat...what more could you ask for??! I'm really impressed! It all sounds like classic Wire to me! Can't wait to get to hear this in Hifi. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #214 ********************************