From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #137 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, July 8 2007 Volume 10 : Number 137 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Re: 128kbps AAC, MP3, etc. [giluz ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: 128kbps AAC, MP3, etc. ["Graeme's_Ghost" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: 128kbps AAC, MP3, etc. On 7/6/07, MonochromaticMan / elektrolad wrote: > > I encode all of my itunes files as mp3s. They give you > the option. That way I can change the track > information, pictures or whatever. And it's easier to > use those mp3s in other programs. > Itunes will not let you do that with the AAC files. What? Of course it does. - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 10:00:59 -0700 From: "Graeme's_Ghost" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: 128kbps AAC, MP3, etc. db power amp is like one of the best converters around....will flac, mp3 orbis all that stuff....just google it and check it out. not a paid ad np:my human gets me blues...cap'n beefheart - ----- Original Message ----- From: "giluz" To: "Idealcopy" Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 2:07 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: 128kbps AAC, MP3, etc. > On 7/6/07, MonochromaticMan / elektrolad wrote: >> >> I encode all of my itunes files as mp3s. They give you >> the option. That way I can change the track >> information, pictures or whatever. And it's easier to >> use those mp3s in other programs. >> Itunes will not let you do that with the AAC files. > > > What? Of course it does. > > -- > Now playing: > http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 14:14:11 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: 128kbps AAC, MP3, etc. - normalised (Warning - I'm on painkillers right now. Threw my back out - hurts like heck! I feel fairly clear headed - but you never know. Pardon me in advance for any strange grammar.) Hi Billy, Sounds like iTunes is installed incorrectly somehow. Before I do any troubleshooting, let's get all the symptoms together, ok? 1. When you rip with iTunes, the volumes of the tracks come out different when played back on your iPod. 2. You are unable to edit any of the information on tracks you rip with iTunes. Both of these would occur if the program is unable to read and/or edit the metadata tags on the .m4a (.mp4) files - or the metadata is corrupted in some way. You say that you have turned off Sound Check - and I believe you!! (^_^) - but do you have it turned off both places? There's an iTunes setting and an iPod setting - both have to be off. Your symptoms would seem to indicate that the iPod is set to use SoundCheck, and the .m4a files have bad metadata. What might be happening is this - another program may be changing the Apple tags, and iTunes can't overwrite/deal with it. Are your iTunes files in a shared directory perchance? Do you play them with any other program? Possible things to try: (If you're using Windows) 1. Look in your "iTunes Music" directory. Check to make sure that all the files end in a .m4a extension. iTunes does funny things if the files are using the generic .mp4 extension. (e.g. cross fading doesn't work if the files end in .mp4) If you have other music programs that access the same music library, the endings may be changing behind the scenes. 2. Uninstall QuickTime manually, and re-install the latest version from Apple. iTunes is independent of QuickTime. If QuickTime is installed improperly, this might happen. If you've been downloading iTunes+QuickTime, you can go to http://www.apple.com/quicktime/ and download *just* QuickTime. Make sure it's as clean an uninstall as you can get it - without damaging your computer of course! (^_^) (If you're using Mac OS X) 1. I have no idea - I've never had to troubleshoot this. Plus - I don't have a Mac at home to try anything. (^_^;). In full disclosure, I should mention that I don't actually have an iPod. I use iTunes a lot - it's my main ripper and library manager. But, my portable audio device is my PSP - since it's compatible with .m4a/.mp4, I just copy the music I want from iTunes to the PSP. The PSP shows up as a removable disc - drag and drop from iTunes into the "music" folder on the PSP. You can use iTunes playlists in this fashion too. Also - I do use Sound Check when making my podcasts. It's a simple volume matcher - and since my shows use audio from many different sources, it helps. It's not perfect - sometimes it gets confused - but hey - that's why I'm here, right? Otherwise, the robots win! Cheers, Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: "MonochromaticMan / elektrolad" To: "Paul Pietromonaco" Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: 128kbps AAC, MP3, etc. - normalised > Paul, > I do have the latest version of itunes. I think it > updates every few days. > > Don't know why I am unable to edit AAC files I ripped > with itunes. It's been that way since I got this > thing. > Don't have Sound Check or any other feature checked > either. > Trust me, I have deactivated everything but the > essentials. I don't like The Man telling me how to use > my gear... > > Billy > > --- Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> (Pulling some posts together + some commentary, >> etc....) >> >> > OK, maybe one of you can answer this for me. When >> I >> > rip a disc with itunes sometimes the track volumes >> > differ. >> > When I rip with other programs and import them to >> > itunes I do not have this problem. I've only >> noticed >> > this when playing back on the ipod. >> > I don't want to use the normalise option when >> ripping >> > cause it only makes it worse. >> > >> >> Yeah - you most likely have "Sound Check" on. It's >> *supposed* to average >> all of the sound volumes, but sometimes it gets very >> aggressive. (^_^) It's >> also a "per track" average instead of an "album" >> average. >> >> Try turning "Sound Check" off in iTunes and your >> iPod. The nice thing is >> that Sound Check doesn't *actually* change the sound >> volume of the ripped >> file - it writes it as a parameter to the ID3 tag, >> which brings us to the >> next topic... >> >> >I encode all of my itunes files as mp3s. They give >> you >> > the option. That way I can change the track >> > information, pictures or whatever. And it's easier >> to >> > use those mp3s in other programs. >> > Itunes will not let you do that with the AAC >> files. >> >> Not true - AAC supports the same ID3 tag as MP3. >> You can even edit them >> with third party editors. I can drop album art, >> lyrics, etc. with AAC files >> in iTunes. I think what you're running into is >> *DRM*ed AAC - different ball >> of wax entirely. Are you trying this with tracks >> you rip yourself? It >> works with iTunes for me for tracks I rip. You may >> need a newer version of >> iTunes. >> >> > Don' use iTunes? >> > ^_- >> > CDEX/LAME is my preferred MP3 ripping solution. >> > >> >> Ha ha! Funny! (^_-) I'm not as big a fan of LAME >> myself - iTunes (based on >> QuickTime 7.1.6) has a slightly better MP3 encoder >> to my ears. BUT - I >> never did use the custom LAME tuning parameters that >> some websites suggest - >> they're supposed to sound awesome. I probably need >> to update my LAME >> version as well - still have 3.96.1. >> >> By the way - iTunes uses QuickTime for all of its >> media encoding/decoding. >> So - if you particularly like your version of iTunes >> - I prefer iTunes 6's >> UI to some of the later versions, plus iTunes 7 >> updates your database >> structure - you can just update QuickTime to get the >> latest codecs. You >> don't have to load the iTunes/QuickTime bundle >> anymore. I just keep >> QuickTime updated, and use the iTunes I prefer. >> >> (The software tester in me must point out that this >> is not necessarily >> thoroughly tested. Apple supports it - but their >> posted policy is to always >> update both together. Always try it first - works >> great for me.) >> >> Cheers, >> Paul >> > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Nervous about who has your email address? Yahoo! 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