From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #132 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, July 3 2007 Volume 10 : Number 132 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] FOPP RIPP ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] [idealcopy] (OT) Request - French TV ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] we're all devo ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] we're all devo [PAUL RABJOHN ] Re: [idealcopy] FOPP RIPP [Tim ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:21:34 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] FOPP RIPP The Covent Garden branch in London - which used to be pretty busy at weekends when I've been in - showed evidence of having been trashed before it was closed with a note in the window blaming closure on 'greedy shareholders'. Another branch was unscathed and seemed full of stock. Perhaps we can hope for some sort of buyout/relaunch of the chain on a smaller scale, though I'm not holding my breath. B www.thisisnorthcliffe.co.uk Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software. Warning: Computer viruses may be transmitted or downloaded onto any computer system via e-mail communication. It is the recipientbs responsibility to take appropriate action to prevent computer viruses being transmitted In this way. Accordingly Northcliffe Media Ltd disclaim all responsibility which arises directly or indirectly from such transmission of computer viruses. Northcliffe Media Ltd. Registered Office: Northcliffe Accounting Centre, PO Box 6795 St George Street, Leicester, LE1 1ZP, co no 272225, Registered in England and Wales, VAT no 243571174. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:56:05 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] FOPP RIPP ...that might account for the 'greedy shareholders' line in the note. B _____ From: PAUL RABJOHN >>> apparently virgin tried to save it , but the offer was declined by creditors / shareholders...... <<< www.thisisnorthcliffe.co.uk Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software. Warning: Computer viruses may be transmitted or downloaded onto any computer system via e-mail communication. It is the recipientbs responsibility to take appropriate action to prevent computer viruses being transmitted In this way. Accordingly Northcliffe Media Ltd disclaim all responsibility which arises directly or indirectly from such transmission of computer viruses. Northcliffe Media Ltd. Registered Office: Northcliffe Accounting Centre, PO Box 6795 St George Street, Leicester, LE1 1ZP, co no 272225, Registered in England and Wales, VAT no 243571174. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:54:49 +0100 (BST) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: RE: [idealcopy] FOPP RIPP apparently virgin tried to save it , but the offer was declined by creditors / shareholders...... "Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote: The Covent Garden branch in London - which used to be pretty busy at weekends when I've been in - showed evidence of having been trashed before it was closed with a note in the window blaming closure on 'greedy shareholders'. Another branch was unscathed and seemed full of stock. Perhaps we can hope for some sort of buyout/relaunch of the chain on a smaller scale, though I'm not holding my breath. B www.thisisnorthcliffe.co.uk Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software. Warning: Computer viruses may be transmitted or downloaded onto any computer system via e-mail communication. It is the recipientbs responsibility to take appropriate action to prevent computer viruses being transmitted In this way. Accordingly Northcliffe Media Ltd disclaim all responsibility which arises directly or indirectly from such transmission of computer viruses. Northcliffe Media Ltd. Registered Office: Northcliffe Accounting Centre, PO Box 6795 St George Street, Leicester, LE1 1ZP, co no 272225, Registered in England and Wales, VAT no 243571174. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:26:27 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: [idealcopy] (OT) Request - French TV This is an obscure request but does anybody receive the French channel TV5, and if so would they be able to tape (DVD or VHS but preferably the former) a short film for me called Histoire Naturelle which I think is scheduled to be on in the next 24-48 hours. A shot in the dark but worth a punt Ian B ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:35:26 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] we're all devo Glad to read a few words about my early-teen favourites. I was vaguely tempted to travel to Manchester but baulked at the ticket price. I saw Devo at Newcastle City Hall in 1980. My first gig, aged 13, and though young and impressionable thought they were fantastic. I saw a DVD of them playing at some outdoor festival in the USA at some point in the late 90s and they were looking a bit worse for wear even then. And Jerry Casale looks like he's morphing into Garry Shandling Did they show any of their films Paul? One memory of Newcastle's film show is of Booji Boy getting his head crushed in some kind of printing press and then having bandages removed - bit vague, but quite funny at the time. I think it's only the first album which stands up down the years. I recently picked up Duty Now For The Future on CD at knock down price, and it sounded pretty flat and dated (except SIB). Say what you like about Eno... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL RABJOHN" To: Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: [idealcopy] we're all devo > sorry i was busy and never got round to posting this at the time , but i did see a really negative review of devo at the RFH so i thought i'd let you know what i thought of last week's brum gig. > > devo were really big when i was at school , but they never played anywhere near where i was in their "heyday". i finally caught them in 1990 (tour for the final album) and it was a dull gig at the T&C , they looked tired and bored. i saw an ad for a short tour (the RFH date was part of jarvis' season , there were i think 3 other shows) so thought we'd go for it (same bunch of schoolfriends as previous) > > venue (surprisingly) was the symphony hall , big sterile classical music arena usually inhabited by the CBSO and "tasteful" acts like brian wilson maybe. i can't ever recall a band playing there who might have gone for it at all. and #40 a pop , maybe the most expensive ticket i've ever bought. > > i got in early and our seats were 3rd row , everyone charged to the front when the band came on so it wasn't anything like the usual snooze of a classical venue. the guys came on in the boiler suits / flowerpot men hats ensembles and (whaddya know) they really rocked the place. 2 of the band (mark m and bob casale) looked absolutely ancient , but they really went for it and everyone had a great time. halfway thu the boiler suits come off to revela the skateboard gear (note to paunchy late 50-somethings out there - this is not a flattering look). all the hits , nothing past the first 5 albums and a great time basically. suspect that'll be the last outing over here from the state of them , glad i caught a decent gig this time. > > talking of which i was made to watch an hour of the dead diana concert. fuck me i don't know where to start , just thank god sting wasn't there as just about every other shit act of the last 20 years appeared to be present and correct. i could actually believe this type of event is sent purely to irritate me personally but surely nobody could be quite that cruel. p > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 02/07/2007 15:35 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:54:39 +0100 (BST) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: [idealcopy] we're all devo yes they had an introductory movie and then showed some more before the encore (presumably while band members all got a whiff of oxygen or similar) obviously the first album is the one that made the impact , but i've always thought "duty now" was really underrated. the songs are all from the same era as the previous album (they'd been together 5 years by then) and i always think of them as a pair. my fave on DNFTF is definitely "smart patrol/mr dna" , which they always do live i think. ziggy producer ken scott was at the controls for DNFTF of course , wonder what became of him? he never milked those bowie connection like ol' bri i guess ;-) p ps i will go look for that french "art movie" (heh heh) for you but not sure sky carry TV5. its on in every hotel room in the known world but i think never viewed outside that environment....... Ian B wrote: Glad to read a few words about my early-teen favourites. I was vaguely tempted to travel to Manchester but baulked at the ticket price. I saw Devo at Newcastle City Hall in 1980. My first gig, aged 13, and though young and impressionable thought they were fantastic. I saw a DVD of them playing at some outdoor festival in the USA at some point in the late 90s and they were looking a bit worse for wear even then. And Jerry Casale looks like he's morphing into Garry Shandling Did they show any of their films Paul? One memory of Newcastle's film show is of Booji Boy getting his head crushed in some kind of printing press and then having bandages removed - bit vague, but quite funny at the time. I think it's only the first album which stands up down the years. I recently picked up Duty Now For The Future on CD at knock down price, and it sounded pretty flat and dated (except SIB). Say what you like about Eno... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL RABJOHN" To: Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: [idealcopy] we're all devo > sorry i was busy and never got round to posting this at the time , but i did see a really negative review of devo at the RFH so i thought i'd let you know what i thought of last week's brum gig. > > devo were really big when i was at school , but they never played anywhere near where i was in their "heyday". i finally caught them in 1990 (tour for the final album) and it was a dull gig at the T&C , they looked tired and bored. i saw an ad for a short tour (the RFH date was part of jarvis' season , there were i think 3 other shows) so thought we'd go for it (same bunch of schoolfriends as previous) > > venue (surprisingly) was the symphony hall , big sterile classical music arena usually inhabited by the CBSO and "tasteful" acts like brian wilson maybe. i can't ever recall a band playing there who might have gone for it at all. and #40 a pop , maybe the most expensive ticket i've ever bought. > > i got in early and our seats were 3rd row , everyone charged to the front when the band came on so it wasn't anything like the usual snooze of a classical venue. the guys came on in the boiler suits / flowerpot men hats ensembles and (whaddya know) they really rocked the place. 2 of the band (mark m and bob casale) looked absolutely ancient , but they really went for it and everyone had a great time. halfway thu the boiler suits come off to revela the skateboard gear (note to paunchy late 50-somethings out there - this is not a flattering look). all the hits , nothing past the first 5 albums and a great time basically. suspect that'll be the last outing over here from the state of them , glad i caught a decent gig this time. > > talking of which i was made to watch an hour of the dead diana concert. fuck me i don't know where to start , just thank god sting wasn't there as just about every other shit act of the last 20 years appeared to be present and correct. i could actually believe this type of event is sent purely to irritate me personally but surely nobody could be quite that cruel. p > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 02/07/2007 15:35 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:25:45 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] FOPP RIPP Clements, Bruno - BUP wrote: > ...that might account for the 'greedy shareholders' line in the note. > > I was a big fan but I say Greedy Fopp for buying up Music Zone (who had previously gotten greedy and bought up the MVC chain). Fopp Ate Itself! Its a Shame because prior to its silly expansion it must surely have been doing OK with its niche market of more mature fans who like to buy music on a medium rather than downloading it or waiting for Amazon to deliver it wrapped in a huge swathe of pulped rainforest. It could have weathered the decline in CD sales? It did sell DVDs and Books as well! Still, a healthy number of record shops survive in Manchester and "the kids" seem to be crazy for Vinyl in this city at least. Not just old stuff, ..7" vinyl seems to be the way to get your new band noticed once again if the new releases section at Piccadilly Records is anything to go by. Fact: People like hanging out in record shops. People don't buy CDs so much. Some clever bastard will find a way to combine the "Record Shop" with selling digital music, and if they're really clever, opening up access to the still vast amount of un-mined back catalogue and more obscure corners of music. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #132 ********************************