From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #118 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, June 16 2007 Volume 10 : Number 118 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Tim Buckley - My Fleeting House [giluz ] Re: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List [Thom Heileson ] Re: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June ["Keith A"] RE: [idealcopy] Re: githead ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List ["Keith A" ] RE: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June ["Keith Kn] Fw: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List ["Keith A" ] Re: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List [Ari ] Re: Fw: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: Fw: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List [Tim ] Re: Fw: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List [giluz ] Re: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June [Hold ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:47:41 +0300 From: giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Tim Buckley - My Fleeting House On 6/15/07, Tim wrote: > > George Michaels alright, he smokes dope and listens to Joy Division > records. > > So what? It certainly doesn't make his music any better. There are lots of nice people making horrible music. Regardless of Michael's drug habits or Stung's star persona, their music is crap. Maybe Sting's more crap than Michael, but not by too much - crap is crap is crap. giluz - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:29:29 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Tim Buckley - My Fleeting House >>So what? It certainly doesn't make his music any better. There are lots of nice people making horrible music. Regardless of Michael's drug habits or Stung's star persona, their music is crap. Maybe Sting's more crap than Michael, but not by too much - crap is crap is crap.<< Ah, Giluz, you are a curmudgeon after my own heart. Elton John anyone? Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:32:11 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June Nothing about Scott or Wire , but for Jarvis fans here. cheers, _m_ www.myspace.com/baltazarzauberquelle www.myspace.com/plastelin - ----- Original Message ----- From: "gfn" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 18:20 Subject: avin plays London this Sunday ,17th June > Apologies for the last minute update, but this was a very late booking: > > Gavin's just been added to the bill of Hal Willner's Forest of no return, celebrating the Vintage Disney Songbook featuring Jarvis Cocker and very special guests at the Royal Festival Hall in London THIS Sunday, June 17th. > > Among the other artists set to appear are: > Pete Doherty, Beth Orton and Shane MacGowan. We have also heard the names of Bryan Ferry, Beth Gibbons and Grace Jones, but these have not been confirmed by the festival website. > > Tickets are available from the festival website. > > > > > > > This newsletter was distributed by www.gavinfriday.com and was not sent unsolicited. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:07:41 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June Jarvis Cocker's Meltdown contains one hiden gem. Tucked away at the bottom of the back page of the promo flyer. Next Saturday (June 23), Artery are playing the RFH ballroom. A free gig, apparenbtly after Jarv's own headline set in the main hall. Appropriate considering how much of Pulp's sound was ripped from Artery circa Into the Garden... Could be good, or could be a car crash, but certainly worth a look, I'd say! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:01:02 -0400 From: TnA Subject: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List For Your Consideration; Below an incomplete list of MUSIC reads I have enjoyed over the years, in random order, with the thought that you may recommend your favorites or be turned on to something you hadn't previously considered, and perhaps something approaching a comprehensive reading list may be gradually accrued. A link to Barney Hoskins' Rock's Back Pages' list of Rock Books, http://www.rocksbackpages.com/article.html?ArticleID=11214 wherein he has compiled his own list of a similar nature. RAVI SHANKAR RAGA MALA JON SAVAGE ENGLANDS DREAMING BRIAN ENO A YEAR WITH SWOLLEN APPENDICES JOHN CALE WHATS WELSH FOR ZEN IAN HUNTER DIARY OF A ROCK STAR BOB GREEN BILLION DOLLAR BABY TIMOTHY WHITE CATCH A FIRE STEPHEN DAVIS BOB MARLEY MARK JOHNSON AN IDEAL FOR LIVING BILL HARKELROAD LUNAR NOTES CARLOS MOORE FELA FELA THIS BITCH OF A LIFE DEE DEE RAMONE SURVIVING THE RAMONES JOHN CORBET EXTENDED PLAY GARY VALENTINE NEW YORK ROCKER FROM THE VELVETS TO THE VOIDOIDS LEGS MCNEIL PLEASE KILL ME MEZZ MEZZROW REALLY THE BLUES IGGY POP I NEED MORE CHARLES MINGUS BENEATH THE UNDERDOG SHAW/ KLEMPKE BLACK MONK TIME MICHAEL AZZERAD OUR BAND COULD BE YOUR LIFE RONNIE SARIG SECRET HISTORY OF ROCK ART PEPPER STRAIGHT LIFE ROBERT GREENFIELD STP and EXILE ON MAIN STREET STANLEY BOOTH THE TRUE ADVENTURES OF THE ROLLING STONES ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:42:48 -0700 From: Thom Heileson Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List Just thought I'd mention that I remember really digging, and being inspired by (though I was younger then), "Blissed Out" by Simon Reynolds: http://www.amazon.com/Blissed-Out-Raptures-Simon-Reynolds/dp/1852421991 http://members.aol.com/blissout/bo.htm (P.S. I caught "30 Century Man" at Seattle International Film Festival the other day and I have to say I was pretty much blown away. Highly recommended. Though I'm so glad I saw it on the big screen with big speakers.) Thom Heileson Scopic studios http://thomheileson.com heileson@pobox.com 206 216 0924 On Jun 15, 2007, at 8:01 AM, TnA wrote: > For Your Consideration; > > Below an incomplete list of MUSIC reads I have enjoyed over the years, > in random order, with the thought that you may recommend your > favorites > or be turned on to something you hadn't previously considered, and > perhaps something approaching a comprehensive reading list may be > gradually accrued. > > A link to Barney Hoskins' Rock's Back Pages' list of Rock Books, > > http://www.rocksbackpages.com/article.html?ArticleID=11214 > > wherein he has compiled his own list of a similar nature. > > > > RAVI SHANKAR RAGA MALA > > JON SAVAGE ENGLANDS DREAMING > > BRIAN ENO A YEAR WITH SWOLLEN APPENDICES > > JOHN CALE WHATS WELSH FOR ZEN > > IAN HUNTER DIARY OF A ROCK STAR > > BOB GREEN BILLION DOLLAR BABY > > TIMOTHY WHITE CATCH A FIRE > > STEPHEN DAVIS BOB MARLEY > > MARK JOHNSON AN IDEAL FOR LIVING > > BILL HARKELROAD LUNAR NOTES > > CARLOS MOORE FELA FELA THIS BITCH OF A LIFE > > DEE DEE RAMONE SURVIVING THE RAMONES > > JOHN CORBET EXTENDED PLAY > > GARY VALENTINE NEW YORK ROCKER > > FROM THE VELVETS TO THE VOIDOIDS > > LEGS MCNEIL PLEASE KILL ME > > MEZZ MEZZROW REALLY THE BLUES > > IGGY POP I NEED MORE > > CHARLES MINGUS BENEATH THE UNDERDOG > > SHAW/ KLEMPKE BLACK MONK TIME > > MICHAEL AZZERAD OUR BAND COULD BE YOUR LIFE > > RONNIE SARIG SECRET HISTORY OF ROCK > > ART PEPPER STRAIGHT LIFE > > ROBERT GREENFIELD STP and EXILE ON MAIN STREET > > STANLEY BOOTH THE TRUE ADVENTURES OF THE ROLLING STONES ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:48:17 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June Just checked GF's website out. Blimey. Where did all those lovely locks go? ; ) No album since the fabulous Shag Tobacco? What's up with the man? Surely his rather rich mate would fund one for him??? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mileta Okiljevic" To: ; Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:32 PM Subject: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June > Nothing about Scott or Wire , but for Jarvis fans here. > > cheers, > _m_ > > www.myspace.com/baltazarzauberquelle > www.myspace.com/plastelin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gfn" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 18:20 > Subject: avin plays London this Sunday ,17th June > > >> Apologies for the last minute update, but this was a very late booking: >> >> Gavin's just been added to the bill of Hal Willner's Forest of no return, > celebrating the Vintage Disney Songbook featuring Jarvis Cocker and very > special guests at the Royal Festival Hall in London THIS Sunday, June > 17th. >> >> Among the other artists set to appear are: >> Pete Doherty, Beth Orton and Shane MacGowan. We have also heard the names > of Bryan Ferry, Beth Gibbons and Grace Jones, but these have not been > confirmed by the festival website. >> >> Tickets are available from the festival website. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This newsletter was distributed by www.gavinfriday.com and was not sent > unsolicited. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:27:01 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: githead I'll be up in a sodden Yorkshire, but have a good time y'all! Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of PAUL RABJOHN Sent: 15 June 2007 09:05 To: Sean Wainwright; howard; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: githead yep , i should be there. and i see its actually free so must be the best value night in town this weekend ;-) hopefully see a few of u there. p Sean Wainwright wrote: Here are the links to the venue and the events pages. http://www.hellshoreditch.com/pages/p_info.html http://www.lostindata.com/www/index.php/event/calendar/action/viewDay/y/ 2007/m/6/d/17 Sean. howard wrote: > Hoping to make it along on Sunday. > > Naove question but is 134 Curtain Road all we need to know, as in, does it > have another name? Do we need a password or a secret handshake or anything > like that? > > Another naove question - am uploading Wir1stLtr to itunes as I write. Anyone > know who does the 'Attempts to fly are welcome ...' vocal sample on 'A > bargain at 3 and 30..'. Unless it's Graham doing one of his hilarious > impressions. > > Howard > > > > > on 9/6/07 9:30 am, idealcopy-digest at owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org > wrote: > > >> - -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf >> Of PAUL RABJOHN >> Sent: 07 June 2007 15:27 >> To: idealcopy@smoe.org >> Subject: [idealcopy] githead london gig >> >> this is now confirmed on the githead myspace page >> >> >> http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=music.showDetails&Band_S how_ >> ID=16087388&friendid=28727889 >> >> who's up for it then? >> >> p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:37:12 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List Brian Wilson's Wouldn't It Be Nice was slated in some quarters, but I thought it was hilarious. Johnny Rotten's No Irish is pretty entertaining as is Mark Paytress (the man who wrote the best Bolan biog) book about the Banshees where he allows the main players to tell the story in their own words - even if I was left thinking that Ms Sioux was a bit of a dick. K. np Goldblade - Hairstyle (Mr Bursa - this is a gloriously daft yet funky pop song. Love it!) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "TnA" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List > For Your Consideration; > > Below an incomplete list of MUSIC reads I have enjoyed over the years, > in random order, with the thought that you may recommend your favorites > or be turned on to something you hadn't previously considered, and > perhaps something approaching a comprehensive reading list may be > gradually accrued. > > A link to Barney Hoskins' Rock's Back Pages' list of Rock Books, > > http://www.rocksbackpages.com/article.html?ArticleID=11214 > > wherein he has compiled his own list of a similar nature. > > > > RAVI SHANKAR RAGA MALA > > JON SAVAGE ENGLANDS DREAMING > > BRIAN ENO A YEAR WITH SWOLLEN APPENDICES > > JOHN CALE WHATS WELSH FOR ZEN > > IAN HUNTER DIARY OF A ROCK STAR > > BOB GREEN BILLION DOLLAR BABY > > TIMOTHY WHITE CATCH A FIRE > > STEPHEN DAVIS BOB MARLEY > > MARK JOHNSON AN IDEAL FOR LIVING > > BILL HARKELROAD LUNAR NOTES > > CARLOS MOORE FELA FELA THIS BITCH OF A LIFE > > DEE DEE RAMONE SURVIVING THE RAMONES > > JOHN CORBET EXTENDED PLAY > > GARY VALENTINE NEW YORK ROCKER > > FROM THE VELVETS TO THE VOIDOIDS > > LEGS MCNEIL PLEASE KILL ME > > MEZZ MEZZROW REALLY THE BLUES > > IGGY POP I NEED MORE > > CHARLES MINGUS BENEATH THE UNDERDOG > > SHAW/ KLEMPKE BLACK MONK TIME > > MICHAEL AZZERAD OUR BAND COULD BE YOUR LIFE > > RONNIE SARIG SECRET HISTORY OF ROCK > > ART PEPPER STRAIGHT LIFE > > ROBERT GREENFIELD STP and EXILE ON MAIN STREET > > STANLEY BOOTH THE TRUE ADVENTURES OF THE ROLLING STONES ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:59:37 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June I shall be attending Meltdown on Monday for an enticing evening of Sunn O))) and Chrome Hoof - lots of hoods, music loud enough to arrange your internal organs, chords lasting for an hour and goat sculptures apparently. Can hardly wait. Anyone with any experience of these bands live? Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of MarkBursa@aol.com Sent: 15 June 2007 18:08 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June Jarvis Cocker's Meltdown contains one hiden gem. Tucked away at the bottom of the back page of the promo flyer. Next Saturday (June 23), Artery are playing the RFH ballroom. A free gig, apparenbtly after Jarv's own headline set in the main hall. Appropriate considering how much of Pulp's sound was ripped from Artery circa Into the Garden... Could be good, or could be a car crash, but certainly worth a look, I'd say! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:10:57 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: Fw: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List Ooops. Meant to mention Julian Cope's Head On and Re-Possessed autobiographies. Admitedly I'm a big fan of the man, but even so they're a fascinating read. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "TnA" To: "Keith A" Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List > Forgot I have the Lydon book....he even autographed it for me....I > actually thought it was extremely well written ( as I recall he had > some help), although I wished there was more about PiL.... > > T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List With a list this good I'm a 'little' suprised you didn't include Miles, co-written by Miles Davis and Quincy Troupe. A can't find that charity? http://www.charityads.org/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:21:00 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List In a message dated 15/06/2007 21:18:35 GMT Daylight Time, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: Admitedly I'm a big fan of the man, but even so they're a fascinating read. You Keith....a Cope fan...well blow me down !! Chris NP Silo - Instar (one of the great albums) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:41:58 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List Keith A wrote: > Ooops. Meant to mention Julian Cope's Head On and Re-Possessed > autobiographies. > > Admitedly I'm a big fan of the man, but even so they're a fascinating read. > I'll second that. I'm not particularly a fan of Teardrops or Cope but it is a brilliant read and a colourful account of the Erics scene, early 80s teeny stardom and acid-madness on the road....anyone for a game of 'sock'? Brian Wilson's story is amazing although its totally ghostwritten, and a bit of a puff piece for Dr Eugene Landy. I think Wilsons 'people' have since disowned it. Peter Ames Carlin's 'Catch A Wave' goes some way to debunk some of Brians 'memoirs'. I'll add to the list "Songs they Never Play on the Radio" by James Young. A hilarious but grim tale of what happened when Nico found herself washed up in early 80s Prestwich, of all places. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 03:19:16 +0300 From: giluz Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] Rock BOOKS List Geoff Emerick's "Here There and Everywhere" is a great insight into the Beatles' recordings since Revolver, when he was their sound engineer. giluz On 6/16/07, Tim wrote: > > Keith A wrote: > > Ooops. Meant to mention Julian Cope's Head On and Re-Possessed > > autobiographies. > > > > Admitedly I'm a big fan of the man, but even so they're a fascinating > read. > > > > I'll second that. I'm not particularly a fan of Teardrops or Cope but it > is a brilliant read and a colourful account of the Erics scene, early > 80s teeny stardom and acid-madness on the road....anyone for a game of > 'sock'? > > > Brian Wilson's story is amazing although its totally ghostwritten, and a > bit of a puff piece for Dr Eugene Landy. I think Wilsons 'people' have > since disowned it. Peter Ames Carlin's 'Catch A Wave' goes some way to > debunk some of Brians 'memoirs'. > > > I'll add to the list "Songs they Never Play on the Radio" by James > Young. A hilarious but grim tale of what happened when Nico found > herself washed up in early 80s Prestwich, of all places. > - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 02:44:32 -0400 From: Hold Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June Sunn O))) likes the smoke machine turned up to 11, so be prepared... Steven On 6/15/07, Keith Knight wrote: > > I shall be attending Meltdown on Monday for an enticing evening of Sunn > O))) and Chrome Hoof - lots of hoods, music loud enough to arrange your > internal organs, chords lasting for an hour and goat sculptures > apparently. Can hardly wait. > > Anyone with any experience of these bands live? > > Another the Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of MarkBursa@aol.com > Sent: 15 June 2007 18:08 > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Gavin plays London this Sunday ,17th June > > Jarvis Cocker's Meltdown contains one hiden gem. > > Tucked away at the bottom of the back page of the promo flyer. > > Next Saturday (June 23), Artery are playing the RFH ballroom. A free > gig, > apparenbtly after Jarv's own headline set in the main hall. > > Appropriate considering how much of Pulp's sound was ripped from Artery > > circa Into the Garden... > > Could be good, or could be a car crash, but certainly worth a look, I'd > say! > > Mark > - -- www.myspace.com/factus2 www.myspace.com/holdnyc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:30:49 +0100 From: "Andy Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: githead Hummphh.....Aviemore for me, but enjoy! AndyL - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Keith Knight Sent: 15 June 2007 19:27 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: githead I'll be up in a sodden Yorkshire, but have a good time y'all! Another the Keith No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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