From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #13 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, January 27 2007 Volume 10 : Number 013 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] todd [PAUL RABJOHN ] [idealcopy] Size matters [Fergus Kelly ] Re: [idealcopy] todd ["Keith A" ] Re: [idealcopy] todd [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] todd ["David McKenzie" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:43:47 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: [idealcopy] todd well keith i was about as impressed with the cd as you were with that gig. glad to see i wasn't missing anything here , i just had vague recollections of people sticking up for todd's recent work. i will avoid in future. p Keith A wrote: Not a major Todd fan by any means, but A Wizard A True Star, as has been pointed out by others here, is great. I Saw The Light is one of the greatest singles of the pre-punk 70's. And the Nazz anthology is well worth a listen, too. But I saw him live a couple of years back (supported by Joe Jackson) and it really, really wasn't good. Review here... http://www.evilsponge.org/concert/RundgrenTodd__9Jun05.htm K. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL RABJOHN" To: Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: [idealcopy] todd > well my local branch of Fopp has a big pile of cd's for a quid so i took a punt on a few , including "liars" by todd rundgren (sadly not a liars album which would have been money very well spent). now i recall some discussion of this album on here a year or so ago , but i can't recall the details. sure he has some fans in the IC massive anyway. > > now i don't want to be harsh , but this has got to be the worst thing i've bought in ages. horrible parpy lightweight funk , made me think of a steely dan pub tribute band. dire. does anyone here rate this stuff? that's the first TR cd i own ; is this typical of his recent stuff or was this some sort of one-off "concept"? i thought he might be worth a listen but its just a complete let-down. also maybe the worst sleeve of the century so far. > > if anyone has a burining desire to own this disc , no reasonable trade offer refused. p > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date: 16/01/2007 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:33:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Size matters The 27/11 Brainwashed 7" has been reviewed in the Size Matters section of the February edition of The Wire, right next to a review of my Material Evidence 3" as it happens... (I've posted the review to Myspace & Room Temperature) Unfortunately the reviewer (Byron Coley) has not taken the trouble to get the 27/11 name right, calling it He Said, and not mentioning Thomas Oberg: He Said: Oh How To Do Now/Show Me How Brainwashed 7" "Graham Lewis by any name sounds pretty good. And this Suicidal cover of The Monks' classic is no exception. Layers of vocals, raspy propulsive electronics, pop structure, even. To be perfectly honest, not much post-reconstruction Wire fallout has done very much for me, but this one's cool" Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:51:33 -0000 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] todd Not a major Todd fan by any means, but A Wizard A True Star, as has been pointed out by others here, is great. I Saw The Light is one of the greatest singles of the pre-punk 70's. And the Nazz anthology is well worth a listen, too. But I saw him live a couple of years back (supported by Joe Jackson) and it really, really wasn't good. Review here... http://www.evilsponge.org/concert/RundgrenTodd__9Jun05.htm K. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL RABJOHN" To: Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: [idealcopy] todd > well my local branch of Fopp has a big pile of cd's for a quid so i took a punt on a few , including "liars" by todd rundgren (sadly not a liars album which would have been money very well spent). now i recall some discussion of this album on here a year or so ago , but i can't recall the details. sure he has some fans in the IC massive anyway. > > now i don't want to be harsh , but this has got to be the worst thing i've bought in ages. horrible parpy lightweight funk , made me think of a steely dan pub tribute band. dire. does anyone here rate this stuff? that's the first TR cd i own ; is this typical of his recent stuff or was this some sort of one-off "concept"? i thought he might be worth a listen but its just a complete let-down. also maybe the worst sleeve of the century so far. > > if anyone has a burining desire to own this disc , no reasonable trade offer refused. p > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date: 16/01/2007 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:40:52 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] todd >>But I saw him live a couple of years back (supported by Joe Jackson) and it really, really wasn't good.<< Can't have been as bad as the previous gigs, touring the Liars album, which was like some bizzarre 80s muso timewarp featuring: People in boiler suits slap bass syndrums 80s FM synth pads guitar widdle An unpleasant brew, though TR has developed a very good "white soul" voice. But backed by the band from hell. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:50:53 -0600 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] todd ya know, that would make a good challenge... produce something listenable using : slap bass syndrums 80s FM synth pads ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #13 *******************************