From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V9 #306 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, December 20 2006 Volume 09 : Number 306 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] Oi! Best of 2006 Please! ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] Suffering Sufjans (was Oi! Best of 2006 Please!) ["Jon Wh] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:33:41 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Oi! Best of 2006 Please! Just in case there's any Sufjan fans out there who were humming and ha-ing about getting Songs for Christmas, a few more days exposure leads me to jump in ahead of myself and say go out and buy this before Christmas as soon as you can. It's fab. CD five (the most recent recordings) is worth the price of admission alone and a song called Sister Winter is (almost) the best thing I've heard all year. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Keith Knight Sent: 14 December 2006 22:39 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Oi! Best of 2006 Please! Listening to it now (spurred on by my last post) and it's rather wonderful - a mix of trad covers and self-penned stuff over two and a half hours. Lots of that Sufjan magical sprinkling of fragile vocals and sounds. And as he's a Christian, he's at least into this stuff. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jon Whitney Sent: 14 December 2006 20:55 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Oi! Best of 2006 Please! Yikes, I'd rather chew razor blades than listen to a Sufjan Stevens Xmas box. On 12/14/06, Keith Knight wrote: > > I will... it's just that there are still over two weeks to go! Just got > the new Hammill, haven't listened to Sufjan Stevens' Christmas box set > yet, will be getting the Vetiver album for Christmas... > > There's always something good that comes along at this time. > > Another the Keith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Tim > Sent: 14 December 2006 02:21 > To: Ideal Copy > Subject: [idealcopy] Oi! Best of 2006 Please! > > Come on you lazy bastards. Lets have your best of 2006's please. > Only me and new man Dennis have contributed so far. > This is usually the time of year when I get to find out what I've missed > > from you lot so lets have it. Doesn't have to be released in 2006 but > lets have it..what have listees been listening to? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:40:38 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] Suffering Sufjans (was Oi! Best of 2006 Please!) Heard a track on 6music the other day. Was very underwhelmed. I'd never heard of the guy and suddenly he brings out a 5-CD Christmas set... Just think of all those other acts one loves and do they ever bring out a 5-CD festive set? No. Still we did get Wire and This Heat boxes in the same year so perhaps that proves there is a god. Come to think of it I don't want to hear Colin, Graham, Peter Hammill or anyone else do a 5-CD Christmas set anyway... B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:02:25 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Suffering Sufjans (was Oi! Best of 2006 Please!) Nice one, Jan! _____ From: Jan Noorda [mailto:janjnoorda@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 December 2006 21:03 To: Clements, Bruno - BUP Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Suffering Sufjans (was Oi! Best of 2006 Please!) I think they rather make furniture... jj - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:40:38 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Suffering Sufjans (was Oi! Best of 2006 Please!) Heard a track on 6music the other day. Was very underwhelmed. I'd never heard of the guy and suddenly he brings out a 5-CD Christmas set... Just think of all those other acts one loves and do they ever bring out a 5-CD festive set? No. Still we did get Wire and This Heat boxes in the same year so perhaps that proves there is a god. Come to think of it I don't want to hear Colin, Graham, Peter Hammill or anyone else do a 5-CD Christmas set anyway... B Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:25:05 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Suffering Sufjans (was Oi! Best of 2006 Please!) Well, he has been recording for four or five years now - most famously he has plans to issue a record for every state of the USA (two so far completed - Michigan and Illinois). Which is a conceit I was sceptical of until I heard '(Come on feel the) Illinoise' last year - a stunningly inventive record with three songs - Chicago, The Man from Metropolis steals our Hearts, and especially the beautiful and moving John Wayne Gacy Jr - which stood among the best songs of last year. I suspect that John Wayne Gacy Jr is the best song I've heard in the last five years actually (haven't thought too hard about this but it's got to be up there). The sound - which is light with use of bells, piano, horns rather than guitars - is not one which is going to endear him to everyone here but there's a remarkable songwriter and arranger at work here. He's also reached that point that some songwriters do where he's got more songs than he can cope with. This year alone he's released an 'outtakes' album from Illiniose which is in itself a fine record as well as the Christmas set. It's a pleasure to hear someone at the top of their game. On the topic of Hammill, the new solo album, Singularity, is a pretty savage work partly 'inspired' by his heart attack. There's intense noise in places and occasional moments that take one back to the mid-70s golden years. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Clements, Bruno - BUP Sent: 19 December 2006 20:41 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Suffering Sufjans (was Oi! Best of 2006 Please!) Heard a track on 6music the other day. Was very underwhelmed. I'd never heard of the guy and suddenly he brings out a 5-CD Christmas set... Just think of all those other acts one loves and do they ever bring out a 5-CD festive set? No. Still we did get Wire and This Heat boxes in the same year so perhaps that proves there is a god. Come to think of it I don't want to hear Colin, Graham, Peter Hammill or anyone else do a 5-CD Christmas set anyway... B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:59:40 -0500 From: "Jon Whitney" Subject: [idealcopy] my bests of 2006.... okay i'm gonna post this on brainwashed eventually but this is pretty much what i'm thinking right now.... in alphabetical order, here's my top 29 albums that i thought were really great (and i didn't quite think of a 30th, it actually kinda started as top 15 but then became top 25 and now we're up to 29...) Jessica Bailiff Feels Like Home Kranky Beirut Gulag Orkestar Ba Da Bing! Benoit Pioulard Precis Kranky James Blackshaw O True Believers Important Boduf Songs Lion Devours the Sun Kranky Andrew Chalk Blue Eyes of the March Faraway Press Charalambides A Vintage Burden Kranky Current 93 Black Ships Ate the Sky Jnana Lisa Germano In the Maybe World Young God His Name Is Alive Detrola Silver Mountain Hot Chip The Warning DFA I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness Fear Is On Our Side Secretly Canadian Kid 606 Pretty Girls Make Raves Tigerbeat6 Larsen Seies Important The Legendary Pink Dots Your Children Placate You from Premature Graves ROIR Little Annie Songs from the Coal Mine Canary Jnana Magnolia Electric Co. Fading Trails Secretly Canadian Major Stars Syntoptikon Important Matmos The Rose Has Teeth in the Mouth of a Beast Matador Mojave 3 Puzzles Like You Mono/World's End Girlfriend Palmless Prayer/Mass Murder Refrain Joanna Newsom Ys Drag City Pajo 1968 Drag City Sandro Perri Plays Polmo Polpo Constellation Rhythm & Sound See Mi Yah Remixes Basic Channel Rivulets You Are My Home Important Six Organs of Admittance The Sun Awakens Drag City Volcano the Bear Classic Erasmus Fusion Beta-Lactam Ring Scott Walker The Drift 4AD my top 9 single/EP-type things A Place To Bury Strangers (Never Going Down) self-released A Place To Bury Strangers (Missing You) self-released Aereogramme Seclusion Sonic Unyon Delia Gonzales and Gavin Russom Relevee DFA I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness According to Plan Secretly Canadian Jesu Silver Hydra Head Liars The Other Side of Mt. Heart Attack Mute Matmos Steam and Sequins Matador Tara Jane O'Neil A Raveling Acuarela favorite things from the vault (boxed sets and reissue things) Edward Ka-Spel Eyes China Doll Beta-Lactam Ring Frank Tovey Fad Gadget by Frank Tovey Mute Greater Than One Kill the Pedagogue Brainwashed Nurse With Wound An Awkward Pause Jnana Arthur Russell Another Thought Audika Stereolab Fab Four Suture Too Pure This Heat Out of Cold Storage ReR Tortoise A Lazarus Taxon Thrill Jockey Wire 1977-1979 Pink Flag v/a compilations Brainwaves Brainwashed (i know what you're thinking but it truly is fucking awesome) Imaginational Anthem Thompkins Square Killing Sound Razor X Not Alone Jnana Wayfaring Strangers: Ladies from the Canyon Numero Group awesome songs from albums which just weren't good enough to be in my top list Anoice The Three-Days Blow from "Remmings" Comets On Fire Soup Smoke from "Avatar" Compass Never Live Forever from "Munchy the Bear" Mogwai Friend of the Night from "Mr. Beast" Mono Yearning from "You Are There" Mojave 3 Breaking the Ice from "Puzzles Like You" Monster Movie Vanishing Act from "All Lost" Mouse On Mars Igoegowhygowego from "Varcharz" Ms. John Soda Hands from "Notes and the Like" Piano Magic Incurable from "Incurable EP" Yo La Tengo Pass the Hatchet I Think I'm Goodkind from "I'm Not Afraid of You and I Will Make a Painfully Long Album Which Will Bore You to Tears" Zombie Nation Don't Touch "Black Toys" bitchin' music videos: Adem Launch Yourself Aereogramme Dreams and Bridges Jessica Bailiff Lakeside Blues Boards of Canada Dayvan Cowboy Bonnie "Prince" Billy Cursed Sleep Boduf Songs Two Across The Mouth Delia Gonzales and Gavin Russom Relevee Dr. Octagon Aliens Gnarls Barkley Gone Daddy Gone Hot Chip Over and Over I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness According to Plan I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness The Owl The Knife Marble House Mahogany Neoplasticboogiewoogie Mojave 3 Breaking the Ice Peaches Downtown Sigur Ros Hoppipolk Stuart A. Staples That Leaving Feeling Scott Walker Jesse Xiu Xiu Boy Soprano ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:01:27 -0500 From: "Jon Whitney" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Suffering Sufjans (was Oi! Best of 2006 Please!) I actually liked Seven Swans quite a bit and Michigan had some great great songs on it but I absolutely hated Illinoise and thought it was far too whiny for my tastes. Too many songs about crying. Enough with the sensitive white guy crap already. It was one of those albums that I hated so much it made me hate the other music I had of his. And then, oh man, and then he popped up on this compilation album "for children of all ages" with some creepy Jesus shit and it basically ruined the comp and any chance of me recommending it to anybody with a kid. Sorry to vent. I'm glad you enjoy 5 CDs of his Christmas music. Honest, I'm glad! On 12/19/06, Keith Knight wrote: > > Well, he has been recording for four or five years now - most famously > he has plans to issue a record for every state of the USA (two so far > completed - Michigan and Illinois). Which is a conceit I was sceptical > of until I heard '(Come on feel the) Illinoise' last year - a stunningly > inventive record with three songs - Chicago, The Man from Metropolis > steals our Hearts, and especially the beautiful and moving John Wayne > Gacy Jr - which stood among the best songs of last year. I suspect that > John Wayne Gacy Jr is the best song I've heard in the last five years > actually (haven't thought too hard about this but it's got to be up > there). > > The sound - which is light with use of bells, piano, horns rather than > guitars - is not one which is going to endear him to everyone here but > there's a remarkable songwriter and arranger at work here. He's also > reached that point that some songwriters do where he's got more songs > than he can cope with. This year alone he's released an 'outtakes' > album from Illiniose which is in itself a fine record as well as the > Christmas set. It's a pleasure to hear someone at the top of their > game. > > On the topic of Hammill, the new solo album, Singularity, is a pretty > savage work partly 'inspired' by his heart attack. There's intense > noise in places and occasional moments that take one back to the > mid-70s golden years. > > Another the Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Clements, Bruno - BUP > Sent: 19 December 2006 20:41 > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: [idealcopy] Suffering Sufjans (was Oi! Best of 2006 Please!) > > Heard a track on 6music the other day. Was very underwhelmed. > > I'd never heard of the guy and suddenly he brings out a 5-CD Christmas > set... Just think of all those other acts one loves and do they ever > bring > out a 5-CD festive set? No. Still we did get Wire and This Heat boxes in > the > same year so perhaps that proves there is a god. Come to think of it I > don't > want to hear Colin, Graham, Peter Hammill or anyone else do a 5-CD > Christmas > set anyway... > > B ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V9 #306 *******************************