From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V9 #243 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, September 19 2006 Volume 09 : Number 243 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] Wet your whistles once more ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] RE: [idealcopy] Fall on Beeb etc...../ Stiff records documentarie s on Beeb ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] RE: [idealcopy] Hit Me ! ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] [idealcopy] Reasons to be cheerful [Fergus Kelly ] [idealcopy] Fall on Beeb etc...../ Stiff records documentaries on Beeb [A] Part 2 of... RE: [idealcopy] Fall on Beeb etc...../ Stiff records documentarie s on Beeb [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] Wet your whistles once more [Ari Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wet your whistles once more Thanks for the tip, Fergus. At the moment I'm cautiously optimistic about getting there. Other IC'ers planning to attend and fancy meeting for a drink, there or beforehand? By the way, the NCAC website says entry is free before 8pm, #5 after. A real bargain if you show up at 7.50-ish, then! Dug out my copy of Take Care this morning, for the first time in ages. I know this isn't what we'll be hearing but I'd quite forgotten just how wonderful it is. A very underrated work, I reckon. Bruno - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Fergus Kelly Sent: 16 September 2006 20:19 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Wet your whistles once more He Said: 27/11 will grace the boards again in Notting Hill Arts Club on September 25th, with a longer set this time, beginning at the more reasonable hour of 9.30 or thereabouts. Apologies extended to those whose travel plans were compromised at the last gig. Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:14:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fall on Beeb etc...../ Stiff records documentaries on Beeb I'd be interested to hear how competent *this* new Fall line-up is, as apparently the gig at Barrow's Canteen Media Centre that was meant to follow the British Sea Power gig last November is now slated for this October (the 13th, I think):- as the venue is a mere 10 mins away I've no real excuse for not going.**** Regarding other stuff on the Beeb, did any UK listees see that 2-parter about the rise and fall of Stiff records that was on BBC3 this last weekend? I watched mainly out of curiosity, as despite liking the DIY ethos of the label, their roster of artistes never really did it for me:- be it Ian Dury and his band of sundry old rockers ('Glencoe', anyone?) or Elvis Costello's nasal whining, Ms Lovich's studied oddness, hoary old pub-rockers.......etc etc What was most striking about the film(s) was the way in which Stiff's judgement failed somewhat after Jake Riviera's departure, and they then signed up allsorts of bands (The Equators? Rachel Sweet?? Any Trouble ??? ) who failed both critically and commercially, destined to fall into a big black hole, never to see a recording studio again. My question would be: Did Stiff *really* warrant 6 hours of documentary footage ? Discuss.... .....or not? dw *** Footnote:- (BTW, The promotors are looking for a local support act, to accompany the Fall on the bill, and over my strenuous objections my band's 'leader' [sic] has been touting for the gig, (although thankfully I think this is about as likely to happen as a double-CD set of new Wire material before the year is out. ) Fergus Kelly wrote: Quick check of the TV schedules, and I notice, much to my delight, this Friday (22nd), on BBC2 at 11.30 "The Fall: The Wonderful And Frightening World Of Mark E Smith". Is this the one that was shown originally on BBC4 ? Also, to my delight, The Fall play Dublin on October 7th... though I believe the band that recorded the Fall Heads Roll album have now all been sacked... Hopefully he's assembled an equally tight group for this tour. Fall Heads Roll is a real cracker, one of the best they've done for a long time. Really looking forward to hearing the songs live. And hopefully MES nonsense will be kept to a minimum. Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/

Check me out! - --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:34:38 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wet your whistles once more > Dug out my copy of Take Care this morning, for the first time in ages. I > know this isn't what we'll be hearing but I'd quite forgotten just how > wonderful it is. A very underrated work, I reckon. > Yeah - I always thought so too. I know Hail is the "Critic's Darling." (^_-), but I always liked Take+Care too. Now if I could just find my copy of Immanent... ^_^ Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:31:40 +0100 (BST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Hit Me ! I'd like to see a whole documentary on Ian Dury.. I was always rather partial to his abracadabra... Fergus - --- Derek White wrote: > I'd be interested to hear how competent *this* new > Fall line-up is, as apparently the gig at Barrow's > Canteen Media Centre that was meant to follow the > British Sea Power gig last November is now slated > for this October (the 13th, I think):- as the venue > is a mere 10 mins away I've no real excuse for not > going.**** > > Regarding other stuff on the Beeb, did any UK > listees see that 2-parter about the rise and fall of > Stiff records that was on BBC3 this last weekend? > > I watched mainly out of curiosity, as despite liking > the DIY ethos of the label, their roster of artistes > never really did it for me:- be it Ian Dury and his > band of sundry old rockers ('Glencoe', anyone?) or > Elvis Costello's nasal whining, Ms Lovich's studied > oddness, hoary old pub-rockers.......etc etc > > What was most striking about the film(s) was the way > in which Stiff's judgement failed somewhat after > Jake Riviera's departure, and they then signed up > allsorts of bands (The Equators? Rachel Sweet?? Any > Trouble ??? ) who failed both critically and > commercially, destined to fall into a big black > hole, never to see a recording studio again. > My question would be: Did Stiff *really* warrant 6 > hours of documentary footage ? Discuss.... > > .....or not? > > dw > > > *** Footnote:- (BTW, The promotors are looking for a > local support act, to accompany the Fall on the > bill, and over my strenuous objections my band's > 'leader' [sic] has been touting for the gig, > (although thankfully I think this is about as likely > to happen as a double-CD set of new Wire material > before the year is out. ) > > Fergus Kelly wrote: Quick > check of the TV schedules, and I notice, much to > my delight, this Friday (22nd), on BBC2 at 11.30 > "The > Fall: The Wonderful And Frightening World Of Mark E > Smith". Is this the one that was shown originally on > BBC4 ? Also, to my delight, The Fall play Dublin on > October 7th... though I believe the band that > recorded > the Fall Heads Roll album have now all been > sacked... > Hopefully he's assembled an equally tight group for > this tour. Fall Heads Roll is a real cracker, one of > the best they've done for a long time. Really > looking > forward to hearing the songs live. And hopefully MES > nonsense will be kept to a minimum. > > Fergus > > http://www.roomtemperature.org > http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com > http://flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:36:57 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Fall on Beeb etc...../ Stiff records documentarie s on Beeb Good luck with getting the gig... as for Stiff, it wasn't the greatest label. I still have a soft spot for Mr Costello/McManus though. He can still knock out near perfect song after near perfect song for two hours live and surely his voice isn't that bad (Dylan keeps going despite arguably the worst vocals of the lot)! B - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Derek White Sent: 18 September 2006 20:15 To: Fergus Kelly; idealcopy Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fall on Beeb etc...../ Stiff records documentaries on Beeb I'd be interested to hear how competent *this* new Fall line-up is, as apparently the gig at Barrow's Canteen Media Centre that was meant to follow the British Sea Power gig last November is now slated for this October (the 13th, I think):- as the venue is a mere 10 mins away I've no real excuse for not going.**** Regarding other stuff on the Beeb, did any UK listees see that 2-parter about the rise and fall of Stiff records that was on BBC3 this last weekend? I watched mainly out of curiosity, as despite liking the DIY ethos of the label, their roster of artistes never really did it for me:- be it Ian Dury and his band of sundry old rockers ('Glencoe', anyone?) or Elvis Costello's nasal whining, Ms Lovich's studied oddness, hoary old pub-rockers.......etc etc What was most striking about the film(s) was the way in which Stiff's judgement failed somewhat after Jake Riviera's departure, and they then signed up allsorts of bands (The Equators? Rachel Sweet?? Any Trouble ??? ) who failed both critically and commercially, destined to fall into a big black hole, never to see a recording studio again. My question would be: Did Stiff *really* warrant 6 hours of documentary footage ? Discuss.... .....or not? dw *** Footnote:- (BTW, The promotors are looking for a local support act, to accompany the Fall on the bill, and over my strenuous objections my band's 'leader' [sic] has been touting for the gig, (although thankfully I think this is about as likely to happen as a double-CD set of new Wire material before the year is out. ) Fergus Kelly wrote: Quick check of the TV schedules, and I notice, much to my delight, this Friday (22nd), on BBC2 at 11.30 "The Fall: The Wonderful And Frightening World Of Mark E Smith". Is this the one that was shown originally on BBC4 ? Also, to my delight, The Fall play Dublin on October 7th... though I believe the band that recorded the Fall Heads Roll album have now all been sacked... Hopefully he's assembled an equally tight group for this tour. Fall Heads Roll is a real cracker, one of the best they've done for a long time. Really looking forward to hearing the songs live. And hopefully MES nonsense will be kept to a minimum. Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/

Check me out! - --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:40:54 +0200 From: "Bart van Damme" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hit Me ! Hear hear... absolutely loved the ol' geezer! Do It Yourself still is somewhere in my top 15 list of alltime fave albums. Better make that a six hour doc! Sorry I missed the Stiff documentary. Still must have that Live Stiffs album somewhere. Just checked Wikipedia and I must the say they had quite an impressive list of artists. Bart Upminster ========== Artists released by Stiff: Devo released several singles on Stiff, and their single "Be Stiff" was later covered by several Stiff artists. Although Stiff had a punk reputation, it hosted a wide variety of players. Amongst the first few Stiff artists were: Elvis Costello, angry young rocker Ian Dury and the Blockheads, a blend of jazz and pub rock, creators of rock and roll anthem "Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll" Tenpole Tudor Wreckless Eric, wry pub rocker Kirsty MacColl Madness, ska revivalists from Camden Tracey Ullman, over-the-top pop Larry Wallis, crazed long haired punk, on his own and with the Pink Fairies and the first version of Motvrhead. Dave Edmunds' Rockpile, rockabilly revivalists band. Edmunds was signed to his own record label, but he and his band acted as Nick Lowe's (who was their bassist) backing group on his recordings. The Adverts, genuine second generation punk Graham Parker and The Rumour, White English Soul band (The Rumour being the remnants of Brinsley Schwartz) Jona Lewie, Pub rocker & Keyboard player Devo, kitschy futuristic new wave The Damned, their original incarnation Any Trouble Richard Hell and The Voidoids, U.S. no wave combo whose look was copied by punks Nick Lowe, Witty songwriter/singer and "in house" producer Sean Tyla and the Tyla Gang, early power pop Plasmatics, mock shock rock from New York arts graduates The Pogues, traditional Irish folk/punk fusion band, fronted by Shane MacGowan Lene Lovich, U.S. singer/songwriter with impressive vocal range (and dress sense) Rachel Sweet Furniture > I'd like to see a whole documentary on Ian Dury.. > I was always rather partial to his abracadabra... > > Fergus > > Regarding other stuff on the Beeb, did any UK > > listees see that 2-parter about the rise and fall of > > Stiff records that was on BBC3 this last weekend? > > > > I watched mainly out of curiosity, as despite liking > > the DIY ethos of the label, their roster of artistes > > never really did it for me:- be it Ian Dury and his > > band of sundry old rockers ('Glencoe', anyone?) or > > Elvis Costello's nasal whining, Ms Lovich's studied > > oddness, hoary old pub-rockers.......etc etc > > > > What was most striking about the film(s) was the way > > in which Stiff's judgement failed somewhat after > > Jake Riviera's departure, and they then signed up > > allsorts of bands (The Equators? Rachel Sweet?? Any > > Trouble ??? ) who failed both critically and > > commercially, destined to fall into a big black > > hole, never to see a recording studio again. > > My question would be: Did Stiff *really* warrant 6 > > hours of documentary footage ? Discuss.... > > > > .....or not? > > > > dw > > > > > > *** Footnote:- (BTW, The promotors are looking for a > > local support act, to accompany the Fall on the > > bill, and over my strenuous objections my band's > > 'leader' [sic] has been touting for the gig, > > (although thankfully I think this is about as likely > > to happen as a double-CD set of new Wire material > > before the year is out. ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:59:10 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Hit Me ! I think I still have the 7-inch Be Stiff single by Devo on transparent vinyl in my attic. Mind you, when I said I had the first two This Heat LPs and the Health and Efficiency 12-incher up there they were nowhere to be seen!! Bruno - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Bart van Damme Sent: 18 September 2006 21:41 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hit Me ! Hear hear... absolutely loved the ol' geezer! Do It Yourself still is somewhere in my top 15 list of alltime fave albums. Better make that a six hour doc! Sorry I missed the Stiff documentary. Still must have that Live Stiffs album somewhere. Just checked Wikipedia and I must the say they had quite an impressive list of artists. Bart Upminster ========== Artists released by Stiff: Devo released several singles on Stiff, and their single "Be Stiff" was later covered by several Stiff artists. Although Stiff had a punk reputation, it hosted a wide variety of players. Amongst the first few Stiff artists were: Elvis Costello, angry young rocker Ian Dury and the Blockheads, a blend of jazz and pub rock, creators of rock and roll anthem "Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll" Tenpole Tudor Wreckless Eric, wry pub rocker Kirsty MacColl Madness, ska revivalists from Camden Tracey Ullman, over-the-top pop Larry Wallis, crazed long haired punk, on his own and with the Pink Fairies and the first version of Motvrhead. Dave Edmunds' Rockpile, rockabilly revivalists band. Edmunds was signed to his own record label, but he and his band acted as Nick Lowe's (who was their bassist) backing group on his recordings. The Adverts, genuine second generation punk Graham Parker and The Rumour, White English Soul band (The Rumour being the remnants of Brinsley Schwartz) Jona Lewie, Pub rocker & Keyboard player Devo, kitschy futuristic new wave The Damned, their original incarnation Any Trouble Richard Hell and The Voidoids, U.S. no wave combo whose look was copied by punks Nick Lowe, Witty songwriter/singer and "in house" producer Sean Tyla and the Tyla Gang, early power pop Plasmatics, mock shock rock from New York arts graduates The Pogues, traditional Irish folk/punk fusion band, fronted by Shane MacGowan Lene Lovich, U.S. singer/songwriter with impressive vocal range (and dress sense) Rachel Sweet Furniture > I'd like to see a whole documentary on Ian Dury.. > I was always rather partial to his abracadabra... > > Fergus > > Regarding other stuff on the Beeb, did any UK > > listees see that 2-parter about the rise and fall of > > Stiff records that was on BBC3 this last weekend? > > > > I watched mainly out of curiosity, as despite liking > > the DIY ethos of the label, their roster of artistes > > never really did it for me:- be it Ian Dury and his > > band of sundry old rockers ('Glencoe', anyone?) or > > Elvis Costello's nasal whining, Ms Lovich's studied > > oddness, hoary old pub-rockers.......etc etc > > > > What was most striking about the film(s) was the way > > in which Stiff's judgement failed somewhat after > > Jake Riviera's departure, and they then signed up > > allsorts of bands (The Equators? Rachel Sweet?? Any > > Trouble ??? ) who failed both critically and > > commercially, destined to fall into a big black > > hole, never to see a recording studio again. > > My question would be: Did Stiff *really* warrant 6 > > hours of documentary footage ? Discuss.... > > > > .....or not? > > > > dw > > > > > > *** Footnote:- (BTW, The promotors are looking for a > > local support act, to accompany the Fall on the > > bill, and over my strenuous objections my band's > > 'leader' [sic] has been touting for the gig, > > (although thankfully I think this is about as likely > > to happen as a double-CD set of new Wire material > > before the year is out. ) ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:24:34 +0100 (BST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Reasons to be cheerful I was lucky enough to see Ian Dury and The Blockheads play Dublin a couple of times in the early 90s. They were absolutely superb. Especially seeing Davey Payne play two saxes simultaneously on "Hit me.." and the sight of Norman Watt-Roy completely DRENCHED in sweat with that totally "into it" look in his eye was indeed a sight to behold... I still get a huge kick out of the first two LPs. "Blackmail Man" still raises the hairs on the back of my neck. Fergus - --- "Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote: > Yeah. Must've been superb live... Saw some footage > at the time (the Tube?) > and they looked sh*t-hot. > > B ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:01:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: If................ http://algore.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=81 or http://tinyurl.com/kguy4 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:37:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] Fall on Beeb etc...../ Stiff records documentaries on Beeb will anyone be recording this ? A Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:44:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Part 2 of... RE: [idealcopy] Fall on Beeb etc...../ Stiff records documentarie s on Beeb Elvis C just happens to be this saturday/sundays performer on Austin City Limits om PBS, it's a great gig. A - --- "Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote: > Good luck with getting the gig... as for Stiff, it > wasn't the greatest > label. > > I still have a soft spot for Mr Costello/McManus > though. He can still knock > out near perfect song after near perfect song for > two hours live and surely > his voice isn't that bad (Dylan keeps going despite > arguably the worst > vocals of the lot)! > > B > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of Derek White > Sent: 18 September 2006 20:15 > To: Fergus Kelly; idealcopy > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fall on Beeb etc...../ > Stiff records > documentaries on Beeb > > > I'd be interested to hear how competent *this* new > Fall line-up is, as > apparently the gig at Barrow's Canteen Media Centre > that was meant to follow > the British Sea Power gig last November is now > slated for this October (the > 13th, I think):- as the venue is a mere 10 mins away > I've no real excuse for > not going.**** > > Regarding other stuff on the Beeb, did any UK > listees see that 2-parter > about the rise and fall of Stiff records that was on > BBC3 this last weekend? > > I watched mainly out of curiosity, as despite liking > the DIY ethos of the > label, their roster of artistes never really did it > for me:- be it Ian Dury > and his band of sundry old rockers ('Glencoe', > anyone?) or Elvis > Costello's nasal whining, Ms Lovich's studied > oddness, hoary old > pub-rockers.......etc etc > > What was most striking about the film(s) was the way > in which Stiff's > judgement failed somewhat after Jake Riviera's > departure, and they then > signed up allsorts of bands (The Equators? Rachel > Sweet?? Any Trouble ??? ) > who failed both critically and commercially, > destined to fall into a big > black hole, never to see a recording studio again. > My question would be: Did Stiff *really* warrant 6 > hours of documentary > footage ? Discuss.... > > .....or not? > > dw > > > *** Footnote:- (BTW, The promotors are looking for a > local support act, to > accompany the Fall on the bill, and over my > strenuous objections my band's > 'leader' [sic] has been touting for the gig, > (although thankfully I think > this is about as likely to happen as a double-CD set > of new Wire material > before the year is out. ) > > Fergus Kelly wrote: Quick > check of the TV > schedules, and I notice, much to > my delight, this Friday (22nd), on BBC2 at 11.30 > "The > Fall: The Wonderful And Frightening World Of Mark E > Smith". Is this the one that was shown originally on > BBC4 ? Also, to my delight, The Fall play Dublin on > October 7th... though I believe the band that > recorded > the Fall Heads Roll album have now all been > sacked... > Hopefully he's assembled an equally tight group for > this tour. Fall Heads Roll is a real cracker, one of > the best they've done for a long time. Really > looking > forward to hearing the songs live. And hopefully MES > nonsense will be kept to a minimum. > > Fergus > > http://www.roomtemperature.org > http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com > http://flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ > > > > target="_blank"> src="http://x.myspace.com/Promo/myspace_4.jpg" > border="0" alt="" />
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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:39:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hit Me ! me too, www.antisoshal.com has an Ian Dury cocert dvd, I may just order that.................... A - --- Fergus Kelly wrote: > I'd like to see a whole documentary on Ian Dury.. > I was always rather partial to his abracadabra... > > Fergus > > > --- Derek White wrote: > > > I'd be interested to hear how competent *this* new > > Fall line-up is, as apparently the gig at Barrow's > > Canteen Media Centre that was meant to follow the > > British Sea Power gig last November is now slated > > for this October (the 13th, I think):- as the > venue > > is a mere 10 mins away I've no real excuse for not > > going.**** > > > > Regarding other stuff on the Beeb, did any UK > > listees see that 2-parter about the rise and fall > of > > Stiff records that was on BBC3 this last weekend? > > > > I watched mainly out of curiosity, as despite > liking > > the DIY ethos of the label, their roster of > artistes > > never really did it for me:- be it Ian Dury and > his > > band of sundry old rockers ('Glencoe', anyone?) > or > > Elvis Costello's nasal whining, Ms Lovich's > studied > > oddness, hoary old pub-rockers.......etc etc > > > > What was most striking about the film(s) was the > way > > in which Stiff's judgement failed somewhat after > > Jake Riviera's departure, and they then signed up > > allsorts of bands (The Equators? Rachel Sweet?? > Any > > Trouble ??? ) who failed both critically and > > commercially, destined to fall into a big black > > hole, never to see a recording studio again. > > My question would be: Did Stiff *really* warrant 6 > > hours of documentary footage ? Discuss.... > > > > .....or not? > > > > dw > > > > > > *** Footnote:- (BTW, The promotors are looking for > a > > local support act, to accompany the Fall on the > > bill, and over my strenuous objections my band's > > 'leader' [sic] has been touting for the gig, > > (although thankfully I think this is about as > likely > > to happen as a double-CD set of new Wire material > > before the year is out. ) > > > > Fergus Kelly wrote: > Quick > > check of the TV schedules, and I notice, much to > > my delight, this Friday (22nd), on BBC2 at 11.30 > > "The > > Fall: The Wonderful And Frightening World Of Mark > E > > Smith". Is this the one that was shown originally > on > > BBC4 ? Also, to my delight, The Fall play Dublin > on > > October 7th... though I believe the band that > > recorded > > the Fall Heads Roll album have now all been > > sacked... > > Hopefully he's assembled an equally tight group > for > > this tour. Fall Heads Roll is a real cracker, one > of > > the best they've done for a long time. Really > > looking > > forward to hearing the songs live. And hopefully > MES > > nonsense will be kept to a minimum. > > > > Fergus > > > > http://www.roomtemperature.org > > http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com > > http://flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:42:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wet your whistles once more there's an npr prog. that used to oft played snippets betwix 'segments' on a 'financial' half-hour from he said she said, not so much anymore alas....... A - --- Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > Dug out my copy of Take Care this morning, for the > first time in ages. I > > know this isn't what we'll be hearing but I'd > quite forgotten just how > > wonderful it is. A very underrated work, I reckon. > > > > Yeah - I always thought so too. I know Hail is the > "Critic's Darling." > (^_-), but I always liked Take+Care too. Now if I > could just find my copy > of Immanent... ^_^ > > Cheers, > Paul Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:06:31 +0100 From: "Andy Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wet your whistles once more Oh well, swampy guitar rock for me that night. Rocking with the Archie Bronson Outfit AndyL - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Fergus Kelly Sent: 16 September 2006 20:19 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Wet your whistles once more He Said: 27/11 will grace the boards again in Notting Hill Arts Club on September 25th, with a longer set this time, beginning at the more reasonable hour of 9.30 or thereabouts. Apologies extended to those whose travel plans were compromised at the last gig. Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 15/09/2006 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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