From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V9 #201 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, August 3 2006 Volume 09 : Number 201 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] OT-lots of beefheart news ["Mileta Okiljevic" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:11:09 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: [idealcopy] OT-lots of beefheart news http://www.beefheart.com/blog/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: Israel........... .... I know this isn't a 'political' list but when the war in Iraq broke many of us were dismayed at the actions taken by our 'dear' president. Since the outbreak of war between Israel and Hizbolla there has been no mention on this list probably due to the fact that some of us are Jews. Two weeks ago I recieved an email from someone on this list that I regard as a very dear friend, he berated Israel and suggested that the world would be a better place if Israel didn't exist. I responded at the time that Israel has every right to exist and that the Jews 'need' a homeland other than 'somewhere else', I still stand by that statement but I am appalled at her actions insofar as she seemingly has no regard for the lives of the 'ordinary' Lebanese citizen.She seems to be bent on making enemies of all arab peoples for the next 20 years. Oh I know the 'arguments' about 'self defence' and I know a lot of what's happened viz the Palestinians was Arafats lack of vision, none the less it seems to me that a people with 'our' history should know better than to do what she is doing and expect to solve them with violence upon violence. Depending on one's world view one could say the world would be better off if America didn't exist, or, if you're Irish you might replace that with the U.K and so on. I strongly support 'Israels right to exist' but feel equally strongly she has taken this too far. Just though I'd 'break the ice' and throw it open to discussion. Ari Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V9 #201 *******************************