From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V9 #200 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, August 2 2006 Volume 09 : Number 200 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... ["Jason Rog] Re: [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... [MarkBu] RE: [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... ["Cleme] Re: [idealcopy] RE: RE: remasters [Monochromatic Man ] Re: [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... ["Jason] [idealcopy] O.T: Tom Waits tour........ [Ari ] [idealcopy] O.T: (no pron, honest) funny as hell [Ari Subject: [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... >Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:38:41 +0100 (BST) >From: Monochromatic Man >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... > >Wouldn't it have been better if the Cure remasters had >surround sound mixes ala Depeche Mode? > I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm incredibly pleased with the Cure remasters just the way that they are. Two solid discs full of great music for each release with necessary singles, demos, and such that didn't spill into the Join The Dots box set. Plus I don't have to fool with DualDisc, a DVD disc, etc. and the format is painless for me to rip songs into computer, etc. at my leisure. I think that The Cure albums have been beautifully remastered. Seventeen Seconds is my all-time favorite album, but I didn't realize how badly the original CD release needed to be remastered until I bought the Deluxe reissue. Talk about an all-time favorite album becoming even better than before. I've got my money jar full and ready for the next three Cure reissues + The Glove reissue next week. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:06:27 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... >>I think that The Cure albums have been beautifully remastered. Seventeen Seconds is my all-time favorite album, but I didn't realize how badly the original CD release needed to be remastered until I bought the Deluxe reissue. << Yes, it's a superb remaster - not only improves the original CD but improves the vinyl, which always seemed to be cut too quietly. "Remastering" is relative to the quality of the original - hence our struggles to detect quality improvements in the Wire remasters, yet 17 secs sounds like a new album... So many CD issues are still crap in terms of audio quality - the Joy Division and New Order ones are a disgrace. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:24:12 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... >>>>I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm incredibly pleased with the Cure remasters just the way that they are.<<<<<< The Cure reissues series gets my vote too - just a bit expensive in the UK compared to things like the double-disc Elvis Costello reissues and Yello reissues with extra tracks. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:21:43 +0100 (BST) From: Monochromatic Man Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: RE: remasters The JD box was pretty good, but the individual cds are terrible. I'll take the vinyl any day. The NO cds sounded good at first release, but now sound terribly dated and hollow. No remasters from either soon, but I'm sure another compilation is being readied for Xmas. Are they just being lazy and letting the record company put these things together? wnd3 - --- MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > >>I think that The Cure albums have been beautifully > remastered. Seventeen > Seconds is my all-time favorite album, but I > didn't realize how badly the > original CD release needed to be remastered until I > bought the Deluxe > reissue. << > > Yes, it's a superb remaster - not only improves the > original CD but improves > the vinyl, which always seemed to be cut too > quietly. "Remastering" is > relative to the quality of the original - hence our > struggles to detect quality > improvements in the Wire remasters, yet 17 secs > sounds like a new album... > > So many CD issues are still crap in terms of audio > quality - the Joy > Division and New Order ones are a disgrace. > > Mark > ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:26:01 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... >From: MarkBursa@aol.com >To: inspectorjason@hotmail.com, idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs on tour........... >Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:06:27 EDT > > >>I think that The Cure albums have been beautifully remastered. >Seventeen >Seconds is my all-time favorite album, but I didn't realize how badly the >original CD release needed to be remastered until I bought the Deluxe >reissue. << > >Yes, it's a superb remaster - not only improves the original CD but >improves >the vinyl, which always seemed to be cut too quietly. "Remastering" is >relative to the quality of the original - hence our struggles to detect >quality >improvements in the Wire remasters, yet 17 secs sounds like a new album... > >So many CD issues are still crap in terms of audio quality - the Joy >Division and New Order ones are a disgrace. > I bought the individual remasters of Pink Flag, Chairs Missing, and 154 (Sorry, no box set...I couldn't bring myself to part with the 95 or so American dollars for the package, despite the temptation.) and have been enjoying them. These remasters are not as striking in sound quality improvement as The Cure reissues, but they sound a bit better to me than on the 1994 EMI releases that I had. I was expecting the reissue of 154 (my favorite Wire album) to be the one that I would be constantly spinning, but I was surprised to find myself blasting Pink Flag much more than the other two. There's just something about the Pink Flag remaster...it's seems to have much more "oomph" to it than the previous edition had. Much more of a rock record. And, of course, I'm slightly dismayed that the extended version of "Outdoor Miner" is not included on the Chairs Missing remaster. Some good quality remasters of Ideal Copy, A Bell Is A Cup..., IBTABA, Manscape, The First Letter, and A-Sides would be totally off the chain, in my opinion. I'd love to see these...especially IBTABA, which was my introduction to Wire all those years ago and is still in my top three Wire albums. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:01:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: Tom Waits tour........ .. http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/736410 sold out in Ashville too darn it!!. A Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:14:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: (no pron, honest) funny as hell (or it should be at least) http://www.newsday.com/media/flash/2006-06/23671673.swf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:42:28 +0100 (BST) From: Monochromatic Man Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: RE: O.T.:cure remasters I never said they were bad or I didn't like them. I would have liked the option of a surround sound format on the discs. - --- Jason Rogers wrote: > >Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:38:41 +0100 (BST) > >From: Monochromatic Man > >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: O.T.: Psychedelic Furs > on tour........... > > > >Wouldn't it have been better if the Cure remasters > had > >surround sound mixes ala Depeche Mode? > > > > I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm > incredibly pleased with the Cure > remasters just the way that they are. Two solid > discs full of great music > for each release with necessary singles, demos, and > such that didn't spill > into the Join The Dots box set. Plus I don't have > to fool with DualDisc, a > DVD disc, etc. and the format is painless for me to > rip songs into computer, > etc. at my leisure. > > I think that The Cure albums have been beautifully > remastered. Seventeen > Seconds is my all-time favorite album, but I didn't > realize how badly the > original CD release needed to be remastered until I > bought the Deluxe > reissue. Talk about an all-time favorite album > becoming even better than > before. > > I've got my money jar full and ready for the next > three Cure reissues + The > Glove reissue next week. > > > Jason ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V9 #200 *******************************