From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V9 #90 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, April 5 2006 Volume 09 : Number 090 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Another couple of quid in royalties for our boys (maybe) ["ma] [idealcopy] Many Pink Flags ["Robert Cambra" Subject: [idealcopy] Another couple of quid in royalties for our boys (maybe) Hi Derek and all others! Mats at Massproduktion here. Been running a label for 27 years now so I think I can answer...( Say hi at www.myspace.com/massproduktion ) Yes they do get payed for TV using their songs. I dont know about UK but in Sweden (until a few years ago) you also have to have the authorisation of the songwriter to use it in a film work which also ment that they have to pay an authorisation fee for using it. I think that just trailers somehow been excluded from that lately since at least here the TV companies have used songs from U2 and others who definitely would not allow it to be used in "film" without enormous amounts of cash. Se yes - they will get paid. An OK sum. Not much but at least here in Sweden you get a 35# per minute. Probably a lot higher in UK. And there is no threshold as I know. Every second counts. So it's good the hear that our boys get a few pennies. Eagerly awaiting the box!! Mats _________________________________________________ Massproduktion, Box 377, S-851 06 Sundsvall, SWEDEN, phone +46 60 12 22 02, fax +46 60 61 90 31, web: http://www.massproduktion.com Subject: [idealcopy] Another couple of quid in royalties for our boys (maybe) ? Chance found me in front of a TV showing UK Channel 5 on Friday, and noticed a Wire song off 'Pink Flag' being used as the backing soundtrack for a trailer plugging a retrospective "That was the seventies, that was" type of program....... Embarrassingly , I can't name the track, but it's the one with the lyrics "Joey's nervous and the lights are bright......" and "[dum de dum de dum] keep your eyes screwed to the floor"........ 2 questions arise: 1) do the boys know about their stuff getting used.? and 2) As I daresay the trailer won't have exceeded 30 secs duration, does this mean Wire will get a 'mechanicals" royalty payment, or does it's short lengh mean they miss out? I realise probably no-one here can answer 1), but what about 2) ? Anyone here know the threshold, (in terms of a sample's duration), after which you collect a royalty? Any members of the Musician's Union here? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:20:48 -0700 From: "Robert Cambra" Subject: [idealcopy] Many Pink Flags Somehow this field of little pink flags gives me a warm feeling inside. By the way, I was looking at the other pictures and thought I would mention that there is an edition of Minimum-Maximum now that comes in a laptop package with a book. Cheers, Robert (another) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 06:01:03 +0100 (BST) From: Monochromatic Man Subject: [idealcopy] Many Pink Flags I was out the other day and I noticed a few fields with these tiny pink flags. Today I went out and shot some pics. Next to each flag was a tiny seedling. I thought they stopped planting trees? Usually they knock down trees, clear a field and build houses. 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Thank you for your compliance. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:34:57 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 0 Now I know Mr Bursa got one of those 154 mugs, so I thought this might = appeal ; ) = http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOY-DIVISION-IAN-CURTIS-NEW-ORDER-THONGS_W0QQitemZ7= 603376975QQcategoryZ58711QQrdZ1QQ%20cmdZViewItem [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 02-Apr-06 194856 BST).url] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:26:27 +0100 (BST) From: Monochromatic Man Subject: [idealcopy] fave Wire member on a thong (was JOY DIVISION THONGS) We haven't had a poll for a long time. wnd3 p.s. Isn't there a PF thong included in the box set? My musik? http://www.myspace.com/elektrolad -OR- visit my webpagess for music downloads: http://home.earthlink.net/~xj23/ http://home.earthlink.net/~2signs/ http://home.netcom.com/~keepleft/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:31:43 +0100 (BST) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 0 ho ho , but the item had been pulled by the time i went to have a look. wonder why , surely there's no such thing as a copyrighted codpiece? wonder why the band are "touchy" about such a thing ;-) was it an "unknown pleasures" logo? how subtle of the designer... p Keith A wrote: Now I know Mr Bursa got one of those 154 mugs, so I thought this might = appeal ; ) = http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOY-DIVISION-IAN-CURTIS-NEW-ORDER-THONGS_W0QQitemZ7= 603376975QQcategoryZ58711QQrdZ1QQ%20cmdZViewItem [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 02-Apr-06 194856 BST).url] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 23:13:07 +0100 From: "John Goddard" Subject: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 0 still there for purchase! http://tinyurl.com/pp998 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith A" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 0 Now I know Mr Bursa got one of those 154 mugs, so I thought this might = appeal ; ) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOY-DIVISION-IAN-CURTIS-NEW-ORDER-THONGS_W0QQitemZ7 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:22:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 0 How'd ya do that John, I got the 'item withdrawn' thingy, which considering the item for sale is kinda funny.......... A - --- John Goddard wrote: > still there for purchase! > > > http://tinyurl.com/pp998 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith A" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:34 PM > Subject: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN > CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS > (item 7603376975 end time 0 > > > Now I know Mr Bursa got one of those 154 mugs, so I > thought this might = > appeal ; ) > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOY-DIVISION-IAN-CURTIS-NEW-ORDER-THONGS_W0QQitemZ7 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 23:13:53 +0100 From: "John Goddard" Subject: [idealcopy] "With the Pinkness of Hindsight......"CN BBC 6 download it here...... 12MB MP3 http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Z2F6K3O6M0CP1OXDYRMP8O89T > Stuart Maconies Freak Zone BBC 6 Sunday April 2nd 2006 > > INTERVIEW with COLIN NEWMAN of WIRE > Discussing the recent re releases of the first Three Wire Albums > PINK FLAG, CHAIRS MISSING & 154 > > Wire - Lowdown > Wire - Three Girl Rhumba > Wire - Practice Makes Perfect > Wire- The 15 th (Fade Out) > > =============================== > > > > Anybody else hear Colin's interview on Sunday? It's about an hour and half > into the show and lasts for half hour, for those wanting to use the 'Listen > Again'. > > The Fifteenth gets cut short at the end due to his gratuitous plugging of > PF product! > > Interesting fact - 'Send sold more copies in 2003, than Pink Flag in 1978' > > AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:13:06 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] fave Wire member on a thong (was JOY DIVISION THONGS) I suggest one for each member as follows... Bastard Take Care Gotobed Insidings Or one with the whole band on that says Dugga Dugga Dugga. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monochromatic Man" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: [idealcopy] fave Wire member on a thong (was JOY DIVISION THONGS) > We haven't had a poll for a long time. > > > > wnd3 > > > p.s. Isn't there a PF thong included in the box set? > > My musik? http://www.myspace.com/elektrolad > -OR- visit my webpagess for music downloads: > http://home.earthlink.net/~xj23/ > http://home.earthlink.net/~2signs/ > http://home.netcom.com/~keepleft/ > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/295 - Release Date: 28/03/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 00:57:00 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 0 After posting this, I read elsewhere that some folk objected to it because it was a play on being 'well hung', but I think people are looking into things too deeply myself. np paul haig - cinematique ----- Original Message ----- From: PAUL RABJOHN To: Keith A ; idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 0 ho ho , but the item had been pulled by the time i went to have a look. wonder why , surely there's no such thing as a copyrighted codpiece? wonder why the band are "touchy" about such a thing ;-) was it an "unknown pleasures" logo? how subtle of the designer... p Keith A wrote: Now I know Mr Bursa got one of those 154 mugs, so I thought this might = appeal ; ) = http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOY-DIVISION-IAN-CURTIS-NEW-ORDER-THONGS_W0QQitemZ7 = 603376975QQcategoryZ58711QQrdZ1QQ%20cmdZViewItem [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 02-Apr-06 194856 BST).url] - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/295 - Release Date: 28/03/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:47:26 +0800 From: "First Last" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] "With the Pinkness of Hindsight......"CN BBC 6 Thanks for that. Anyone seen the Nosebleeds film? Scroll down to 27th March http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/blogger.html Tim On 4/5/06, John Goddard wrote: > download it here...... 12MB MP3 > > http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Z2F6K3O6M0CP1OXDYRMP8O89T > > > Stuart Maconies Freak Zone BBC 6 Sunday April 2nd 2006 > > > > INTERVIEW with COLIN NEWMAN of WIRE > > Discussing the recent re releases of the first Three Wire Albums > > PINK FLAG, CHAIRS MISSING & 154 > > > > Wire - Lowdown > > Wire - Three Girl Rhumba > > Wire - Practice Makes Perfect > > Wire- The 15 th (Fade Out) > > > > =============================== > > > > > > > > Anybody else hear Colin's interview on Sunday? It's about an hour and > half > > into the show and lasts for half hour, for those wanting to use the > 'Listen > > Again'. > > > > The Fifteenth gets cut short at the end due to his gratuitous plugging of > > PF product! > > > > Interesting fact - 'Send sold more copies in 2003, than Pink Flag in > 1978' > > > > AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:11:51 +0000 From: Bunny Smedley Subject: Re: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 0 I9ll stick to my Joy Division Oven Gloves. From: Keith A Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 00:57:00 +0100 To: PAUL RABJOHN , Subject: Re: [idealcopy] eBay.co.uk JOY DIVISION IAN CURTIS NEW ORDER THONGS (item 7603376975 end time 0 After posting this, I read elsewhere that some folk objected to it because it was a play on being 'well hung', but I think people are looking into things too deeply myself. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V9 #90 ******************************