From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V9 #68 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, March 12 2006 Volume 09 : Number 068 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Re: [idealcopy] Ivor Cutler ["Mark Short" ] [idealcopy] Ivor Sessions ["Scott Kellock" ] [none] ["Cornelio Ud Ad" ] [idealcopy] O:T truly truly amazing......... [Ari Subject: Re: Re: [idealcopy] Ivor Cutler I'm sure I've got some of them somewhere, taped off the much missed "Walters' Weekly". I have the LPs he did for Virgin, but have to admit I don't listen to them too often - after a while he can seem a bit twee. I saw him live a couple of times, and in the flesh he didn't seem twee, not really sure why. Mark S - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Goddard" To: Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:05 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [idealcopy] Ivor Cutler > So glad this Mr Cutler thread has been running all week > Just thought i may add I run the Ivor-list on yahoo, which this week has > had > Hundreds of outpourings of joy & sadness regarding his passing > > Andy Kershaw as a mark of respect is re running the Ivor Cutler 1979 John > Peel Session on Sunday March 12th 10pm GMT ON BBC RADIO 3 > > Any of you guys have any of the John Peel Ivor Sessions on Tape?? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:09:19 -0000 From: "Scott Kellock" Subject: [idealcopy] Ivor Sessions Original message Any of you guys have any of the John Peel Ivor Sessions on Tape?? Loads o free Ivor stuff at this link http://www.ivorcutler.org/sessions.html all fromm BBC Sessions Enjoy I would also recommend "Dandruff" "Jammy Smears" and of course "Life in a Scotch Sitting Room vol II" Scott http://worldwidegigguide.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:12:26 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: O.T: New book on The Cure... >Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:33:21 -0800 (PST) >From: Ari >Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: New book on the Cure......... > I'm about fifty pages into Jeff Apter's Never Enough: The Story Of The Cure right now, as I recently got it in the mail after ordering from Amazon.co.uk. The book works for me, as I never did own Ten Imaginary Years and this is the only semblance of a biography that I have for my favorite band. It's very much worth noting, though, that Apter himself acknowledges that, although he had massive input from Lol Tolhurst, Michael Dempsey, and other Cure members, past and present, he did not directly interview Robert Smith (Apter apparently got email from Smith after the book was completed). It's a fun read so far, as Apter's prose keeps things moving along at a decent pace (that and the fact that, since I just finished reading Cormac McCarthy's novel, Blood Meridian, the Cure biography is almost like going back to kindergarten level reading by comparison). Stuff to be taken with a grain of salt, as is with every biography out there, but this one wins some points for being very thorough with eveything thus far and showing all viewpoints concerned. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:10:30 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ivor Cutler 'V' was a cheap double album sampler released by Virgin in 74 in the usual attempt to get people interested in a range of stuff on the label - - it has a hand on the cover showing the V sign, but cleverly with six fingers showing. I bought it because I was deeply immersed in Virgin stuff at the time and I would have sold my grandmother for a new Robert Wyatt track. The Slapp Happy tracks were I think trailers for Desperate Straights which hadn't yet been released. Thomas Newman was on it, now a big-name soundtrack composer. Unfortunately so was Mike Oldfield's Don Alfonso ("I work for Oxo, and all the Bullocks are afraid of me"). I'm not sure that Ivor's version of 'Grass' got a release subsequently on an album but a lot of people seem to know it. I can't agree with Mark Short's view of him as twee - a lot of his songs are about violence and this is no exception - 'While we talk I'll hit your head with a nail to make you understand me'. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: giluz [mailto:giluzzz@gmail.com] Sent: 10 March 2006 19:54 To: Keith Knight Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ivor Cutler er - v? never heard of it. I of course have the slapp happy/ henry cow and wyatt songs but never heard a different version of "go sit upon the grass" than the one on nothing can stop us. some data will be much appreciated giluz On 3/10/06, Keith Knight wrote: Ah 'V', a record which I still have but haven't played for a while. Worth it for Robert Wyatt's heartbreaking version of minor Chris Andrews hit 'Yesterday Man' if nothing else. And Slapp Happy / Henry Cow's 'Excerpt from the 'Messiah'', a song I can still on some days find myself unexpectedly humming. Wyatt later covered 'Go and Sit Upon the Grass' of course. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Derek White As it happens, "Go and sit upon the grass" was the first thing I heard by him, [on some Virgin Records sampler called 'V' IIRC] in 1974, followed by numerous Peel sessions which always meant it was worth taping that night.......... - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:46:01 +0100 From: "Cornelio Ud Ad" Subject: [none] KEY: 2AEB697-1752D93 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:48:51 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O:T truly truly amazing......... http://marketplace.espeakers.com/flavplayer_content.php or http://tinyurl.com/ahgyf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:32:15 +0100 From: "Cornelio Ud Ad" Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: sharing Wire material? Dear Wire Lovers, I am a young Wire fanatic from Spain and I would like to know if the idealcopy-mailing-list-members could send me some Wire material by e-mail (singles and rarities, if you want to share it), because it is imposible to me to get them otherwise, as in my country there is really few released material (nor very much in perspective), and I am probably the only person in my town who knows who are Wire and what they do. I would be eternally thankful if you sent me (for example) The Drill album (though song after song), because it is completely imposible to get it by e-mule, kazaa, mail order or any other way, as well as the Snakedrill single, the Ahead, Eardrum Buzz and the Buzz Buzz Buzz one. Other releases I am interested on are the Midnacht Bahnhof Cafe Nostalgia, Take A Terrifying Trip To The Past, Comeback In Two Halves, Live In Amsterdam, The Legendary Manchester Wire, and Live - May 1990 recordings, as they appear on the Wire Discography at http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty/wire/discography.html, as well as the albums of the WIR period, which are specially hard to find, and the Wire Unofficial Videos as appearing on http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty/wire/urivideo.html, that seem to be really interesting. Please reply if you agree to share your old albums! Very much thanks Cornelio Ud Ad, Spain ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:36:57 +0100 From: "Cornelio Ud Ad" Subject: [idealcopy] sharing Wire material? Dear Wire Lovers, I am a young Wire fanatic from Spain and I would like to know if the idealcopy-mailing-list-members could send me some Wire material by e-mail (singles and rarities, if you want to share it), because it is imposible to me to get them otherwise, as in my country there is really few released material (nor very much in perspective), and I am probably the only person in my town who knows who are Wire and what they do. I would be eternally thankful if you sent me (for example) The Drill album (though song after song), because it is completely imposible to get it by e-mule, kazaa, mail order or any other way, as well as the Snakedrill single, the Ahead, Eardrum Buzz and the Buzz Buzz Buzz one. Other releases I am interested on are the Midnacht Bahnhof Cafe Nostalgia, Take A Terrifying Trip To The Past, Comeback In Two Halves, Live In Amsterdam, The Legendary Manchester Wire, and Live - May 1990 recordings, as they appear on the Wire Discography at http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty/wire/discography.html, as well as the albums of the WIR period, which are specially hard to find, and the Wire Unofficial Videos as appearing on http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty/wire/urivideo.html, that seem to be really interesting. Please reply if you agree to share your old albums! Very much thanks Cornelio Ud Ad, Spain ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:11:03 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T; some Jeff Tweedy streaming.......... http://wilcoworld.net/roadcase/index.php Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:22:10 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: New book on the Cure......... > Fat Bob's autobiog will probably be worth a read, if he ever writes one. > He sort of already did: http://www.musicstack.com/tsearch/cure/ten_imaginary_years and http://www.plainsong.net/bibliography/ Ten Imaginary Years - The Official Cure Biography By Barbarian,steve Sutherland And Robert Smith. I can't find the amazon listing for this - but I can confirm it exists because I have a copy! Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V9 #68 ******************************