From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V9 #63 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, March 7 2006 Volume 09 : Number 063 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] WIRE IN MOJO 149 / '154' ["Keith A" ] Re: [idealcopy] WIRE IN MOJO 149 / '154' [giluz ] [idealcopy] Fahrenheit 154 [Fergus Kelly ] Re: [idealcopy] Earthly delight [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] WIRE IN MOJO 149 / '154' [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:01:56 -0000 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIRE IN MOJO 149 / '154' > Skim-read this in Borders yesterday. So George Gill was a 'belt-and-braces > Yorkshireman' (if I remember the words). What the hell is one of them??? > Also, I don't recall hearing before that Colin refused to play on A Touching > Display and likewise Gilbert on The 15th. How tetchy! Yeah. I'd have played on either if asked! > It kind of dawned on me the other day that 154 is the album - by anybody - > that I've probably played more than any other, and that I still > occassionally play. Anybody else care to share their 'most-played-album'? > Doesn't have to be from the Wire stable. I guess it would be Chairs Missing overall, though I've been playing Pink Flag and both R&B's over the last week or so. The Githead one got some hammer here and also been playing He Said Omala lately (though only bought Matching Crosses recently). K. np Sparks - lil beethoven ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:08:17 -0800 (PST) From: J Alberson Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIRE IN MOJO 149 / '154' Wire-wise, it must be Chairs Missing, though I think I might like 154 more overall--it's a little more doomy, and that suits my taste. It depends wholly on my mood at the time, but the first three records get a lot of play. Non-Wire? Probably something by The Cure (Disintegration) or New Order (Movement or Substance). Jack Keith A wrote: > Skim-read this in Borders yesterday. So George Gill was a 'belt-and-braces > Yorkshireman' (if I remember the words). What the hell is one of them??? > Also, I don't recall hearing before that Colin refused to play on A Touching > Display and likewise Gilbert on The 15th. How tetchy! Yeah. I'd have played on either if asked! > It kind of dawned on me the other day that 154 is the album - by anybody - > that I've probably played more than any other, and that I still > occassionally play. Anybody else care to share their 'most-played-album'? > Doesn't have to be from the Wire stable. I guess it would be Chairs Missing overall, though I've been playing Pink Flag and both R&B's over the last week or so. The Githead one got some hammer here and also been playing He Said Omala lately (though only bought Matching Crosses recently). K. np Sparks - lil beethoven Jack L. Alberson http://www.shortwavedahlia.org <--free music for free thinkers AIM: shortwavedahlia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:07:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Earthly delight Jan The Man said: This evening starst new Attenborough series Planet Earth Don't know if Chris Watson is involved this time, but would not be surprised ((( Some pretty impressive footage on this programme last night with hi-tech camera mounted on helicopter underbelly. Incredibly smooth as it has some kind of steadicam mechanism inbuilt. Capable of zooming up to ONE KILOMETRE, and still very steady. Not much in the way of specific sound focus, so no sign of Mr Watson. The programme's remit is a fairly broad one to do with climate. I tend to prefer the more intense scrutinies of programmes like the excellent Life In The Undergrowth. Still. Some pretty jaw-dropping footage, especially that of a great white shark leaping several feet out of the ocean to catch a seal. Probably the weight of a double-decker at least. And then there was the shots of elephants underwater. Quite surreal. And last week on BBC4 a programm about the disappearing ice Art from the Arctic with Max Eastley now as a recording specialist. Fergus do you know maybe something about this? We cannot receive BBC4 in the northern Netherlands. I am very curious about this. Already tried to catch a book by Barry Lopez about created landscapes in the north. http://www.capefarewell.com/ ((( Max, along with artists Rachel Whiteread, Antony Gormley, Ian MacEwan and others, has been travelling from the tip of Norway to the arctic island of Spitzbergen as part of the Cape Farewell project, which aims to use artists and educationalists to develop works that get the message of climate change across. He has been recording the sounds of the ship moving through pack ice, bird calls, a colony of kittiwakes, bearded seal songs, walruses and melting glaciers. These recordings were part of the soundtrack to the BBC4 programme. Max also made a piece for the Cape Farewell Ice Garden exhibition in Oxford last December, and is working on new work which will be part of a travelling show called The Ship. Best check the full page article in this month's Wire, in the Cross Platform section for the full story. Some photos here: http://www.thewire.co.uk/current/cross.php Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 00:36:24 +0200 From: giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIRE IN MOJO 149 / '154' On 3/6/06, J Alberson wrote: > > Wire-wise, it must be Chairs Missing, though I think I might like 154 more > overall--it's a little more doomy, and that suits my taste. I I agree. No wonder it wasn't fun to make, and I believe that's why it was sort of downplayed in the MOJO article compared to the other two. Still my first and favourite Wire album, regardless of how much I love the other two. 154 has this dark gloomy soundscape you can just dive into. giluz - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:03:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Fahrenheit 154 154 would definitely be a desert island disc for me. First thing I popped on me Pod. Holds up remarkably well after 27 years. Though it's hard to be objective about these things as music is such an emotional medium. I often wonder what I'd make of it now if I were hearing it for the first time. I was 16 when I first heard it, and it connected with me on a level I could barely articulate at the time, but it just created a space I wanted to occupy. I was in my element. They forged atmospheres, lyrically and musically, that were brutal and beautiful, bold and brittle. Shot through with imminent collapse. A mirror of the fractious working relationships. Classic. Fergus Subsequent all time faves to pop on the Pod after 154 were MZUI, Unknown Pleasures, Entertainment ! The Inexhaustible Document by AMM, Piano and String Quartet by Morton Feldman, Spiral Insana by Nurse With Wound. http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:44:47 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Earthly delight In a message dated 06/03/2006 22:19:36 GMT Standard Time, lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: Max also made a piece for the Cape Farewell Ice Garden exhibition in Oxford last December, and is working on new work which will be part of a travelling show called The Ship. Best check the full page article in this month's Wire, in the Cross Platform section for the full story. Some photos here: http://www.thewire.co.uk/current/cross.php Top stuff Fergus. Was well impressed with the Planet Earth programme last night.The Baboons wading through water had me in stitches. Awesome photography.So impressed I obtained the BBC Wildlife Magazine today which I am now perusing. NP - In my car. The Legend Of Johnny Cash In the house - The Psychedelic Furs - B sides & lost grooves Also just watched Wire at the Paradiso on the Internet on the Fab Channel. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:54:31 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIRE IN MOJO 149 / '154' In a message dated 06/03/2006 22:58:45 GMT Standard Time, giluzzz@gmail.com writes: agree. No wonder it wasn't fun to make, and I believe that's why it was sort of downplayed in the MOJO article compared to the other two. Still my first and favourite Wire album, regardless of how much I love the other two. 154 has this dark gloomy soundscape you can just dive into 154 for me too. Although I love the first 2 albums & they are both instant recall situations in my life. By that I mean - Where I bought the albums/When I first listened to them/Where I first listened to them/How I felt about them/ Yet above all else the most crucial moment in listening to a "Wire" record for me personally, was the first time I heard Dome 1 . It was a defining moment in my listening experience. 19 or 20 years old & absolutely not expecting what I unearthed in that 40 minutes of vinyl. Cruel When Complete/Airmail - stunning stuff & such a contrast to what I had heard before.... Chris ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V9 #63 ******************************