From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V9 #60 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, March 3 2006 Volume 09 : Number 060 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] test [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] new address etc. [PAUL RABJOHN ] [idealcopy] 154+bonus tracks ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] [idealcopy] OT Becht's Perhaps Song [giluz ] [idealcopy] ipod [PAUL RABJOHN ] Re: [idealcopy] ipod [fernando ] Re: [idealcopy] ipod [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: [idealcopy] ipod [MarkBursa@aol.com] Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod [PAUL RABJOHN ] Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: [idealcopy] ipod ["David McKenzie" ] Re: [idealcopy] Artrocker ["Keith A" ] Re: [idealcopy] WIRE IN MOJO 149 [Tim ] [idealcopy] People who collect Sex Pistols records are c*nts [Tim Subject: [idealcopy] new address etc. just a quick global mail to say my new employers have a major objection to AOL and won't let me put the software on my laptop , this makes it a right pain to continue with AOL so i'm gradually migrating everything across to this , paulrabjohn@btinternet.com. could anyone with the aol address stored please change it to this. i'll kill of the AOL account in a couple of months. suppose i ought to say something semi-worthwhile and on topic now. wonder what this box-set will cost? i think it's a bit unrealistic to think 1000 are going to shift at sufficient speed to leave any great difficulty in sourcing one , PE have missed the opportunity to promote this alongside all the EMI re-issues so i'd suspect your average punter won't cotton on to this too quickly. looking forward to the MOJO piece , amazing how the EMI publicity machine has cranked into action. even if we're not talking exciting bonus tracks , i'd suspect this press will pull in quite a few sales. just flicking through the racks in a couple of chain stores yesterday i saw quite a few copies of the old editions (with bonus tracks) , wonder if these are now deleted? p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:46:26 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] 154+bonus tracks >>>>wonder what this box-set will cost? i think it's a bit unrealistic to think 1000 are going to shift at sufficient speed to leave any great difficulty in sourcing one , PE have missed the opportunity to promote this alongside all the EMI re-issues so i'd suspect your average punter won't cotton on to this too quickly<<<<< Can't remember who it was who said they'd like a copy of 154 with bonus tracks... well mine will be up for grabs when I get the new box set so get in touch off list if you like. I bought the LP+single on the day of release and still have it, and the '94 reissue CD holds no particular memories so it might as well go to an idealcopyist's home. Role on the remastered versions... B ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:47:17 -0600 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] test success? On 3/2/06, PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > > - -- Reliable Sound Products ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:19:51 +0200 From: giluz Subject: [idealcopy] OT Becht's Perhaps Song A bit of an odd question: Does anyone have an English translation of Brecht's "The Perhaps Song" (Die Vielleicht Lied)? giluz - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:15:13 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: [idealcopy] ipod at lunctime i was flicking at a pretty silly rough guide to ipods , which gives 500 suggested playlists each of 10 songs. and yes , there is a wire one. featuring 9 tracks from the 70's and just one subsequent one. as a little trivia item , anyone like to take a guess at the one Mk2 / Mk3 wire track they chose? p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 06:32:20 -0800 From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ipod If I am going to pick a song to match the "feel" of 70s Wire, then it would be +Drill;. On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:15 AM, PAUL RABJOHN wrote: > at lunctime i was flicking at a pretty silly rough guide to ipods , > which gives 500 suggested playlists each of 10 songs. and yes , > there is a wire one. featuring 9 tracks from the 70's and just one > subsequent one. > > as a little trivia item , anyone like to take a guess at the one > Mk2 / Mk3 wire track they chose? > > p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:00 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ipod On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 02:15:13PM +0000, PAUL RABJOHN wrote: > at lunctime i was flicking at a pretty silly rough guide to ipods , which gives 500 suggested playlists each of 10 songs. and yes , there is a wire one. featuring 9 tracks from the 70's and just one subsequent one. > > as a little trivia item , anyone like to take a guess at the one Mk2 / Mk3 wire track they chose? Eardrum Buzz? (Not a track I like that much - 80s Wire, I'd rather have any or all of A Serious of Snakes, Advantage In Height, Ahead, Ambitious, Come Back In Two Halves, A Public Place, German Shepherds, Silk Skin Paws, Drill, You Hung Your Lights In The Trees, Life In The Manscape, Over Theirs...) A - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | http://covertmusic.com/ | work: adw27@cam.ac.uk "i'd rather make furniture" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 09:37:46 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ipod >> as a little trivia item , anyone like to take a guess at the one Mk2 / Mk3 wire track they chose?<< The obvious choice would be Kidney Bingos, or Eardrum Buzz ("the hits") or of the more recent stuff, something like I don't understand. Drill might encompass the two phases quite well. But.... it's obviously not something obvious. Why else would you be asking? So it's going to be something head-scratchingly odd, like Torch It! or Raft Ants, or something off Manscape... M ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:48:13 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod Note: forwarded message attached. Received: from [217.40.134.217] by web86401.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 14:47:34 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:47:34 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ipod To: MarkBursa@aol.com In-Reply-To: <29e.65295fb.31385d3a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 935 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain guesses so far all of course miles out. its not a "hit" but neither is it something achingly obscure. and anyway , as an aside , the band liked "torch it!" enough to play it as the encore on the manscape tour. so it was a favourite once. but no , the track we are looking for is not on manscape...... p MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: >> as a little trivia item , anyone like to take a guess at the one Mk2 / Mk3 wire track they chose?<< The obvious choice would be Kidney Bingos, or Eardrum Buzz ("the hits") or of the more recent stuff, something like I don't understand. Drill might encompass the two phases quite well. But.... it's obviously not something obvious. Why else would you be asking? So it's going to be something head-scratchingly odd, like Torch It! or Raft Ants, or something off Manscape... M ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:02:09 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 02:48:13PM +0000, PAUL RABJOHN wrote: > > guesses so far all of course miles out. its not a "hit" but neither > is it something achingly obscure. ASTEROID!!1!1! (ahem.) "Comet" or "In The Art Of Stopping"? A ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:48:00 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: > guesses so far all of course miles out. its not a "hit" but neither > is it something achingly obscure. ASTEROID!!1!1! (ahem.) "Comet" or "In The Art Of Stopping"? A //////// no , but you're very warm............ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:58:20 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 03:48:00PM +0000, PAUL RABJOHN wrote: > "Comet" or "In The Art Of Stopping"? > //////// no , but you're very warm............ Spent? (Doubt it's 99.9, my favourite track off Send, though it *could* be You Can't Leave Now or Agfers...) - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | http://covertmusic.com/ | work: adw27@cam.ac.uk "don't believe a word I say - not that you would anyway, 'cause I may be insincere, but it's all downhill from here..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:26:08 +0000 From: dpbailey@att.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ipod so & slow it grows? or is non-gotobed wir by definition excluded? dan - -------------- Original message from PAUL RABJOHN : -------------- > at lunctime i was flicking at a pretty silly rough guide to ipods , which gives > 500 suggested playlists each of 10 songs. and yes , there is a wire one. > featuring 9 tracks from the 70's and just one subsequent one. > > as a little trivia item , anyone like to take a guess at the one Mk2 / Mk3 > wire track they chose? > > p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:33:13 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: Spent? (Doubt it's 99.9, my favourite track off Send, though it *could* be You Can't Leave Now or Agfers...) //////even warmer. you've named almost every track in mark 3 wire except the right one ;-) p - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | http://covertmusic.com/ | work: adw27@cam.ac.uk "don't believe a word I say - not that you would anyway, 'cause I may be insincere, but it's all downhill from here..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:43:25 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] ipod On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 04:33:13PM +0000, PAUL RABJOHN wrote: > > //////even warmer. you've named almost every track in mark 3 wire > except the right one ;-) p Surely not Being Watched? Mr. Marx's Table I could go with. :) Being Watched I just don't get on with. A (throwing darts) - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | http://covertmusic.com/ | work: adw27@cam.ac.uk "with your feet in the air and your head on the ground" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:43:42 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ipod //////even warmer. you've named almost every track in mark 3 wire except the right one ;-) 1st Fast? Germ Ship? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:39:16 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ipod somehow i suspect the compiler didn't consider wir , although no particular criteria were given. but RG is definitely playing on all 10 tracks....... dpbailey@att.net wrote: so & slow it grows? or is non-gotobed wir by definition excluded? dan - -------------- Original message from PAUL RABJOHN : -------------- > at lunctime i was flicking at a pretty silly rough guide to ipods , which gives > 500 suggested playlists each of 10 songs. and yes , there is a wire one. > featuring 9 tracks from the 70's and just one subsequent one. > > as a little trivia item , anyone like to take a guess at the one Mk2 / Mk3 > wire track they chose? > > p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:03:50 -0600 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ipod I Don't Understand no... Trash\Treasure On 3/2/06, PAUL RABJOHN wrote: > > somehow i suspect the compiler didn't consider wir , although no > particular criteria were given. but RG is definitely playing on all 10 > tracks....... > > dpbailey@att.net wrote: so & slow it grows? or is non-gotobed wir by > definition excluded? > > dan > > -------------- Original message from PAUL RABJOHN > : -------------- > > > > at lunctime i was flicking at a pretty silly rough guide to ipods , > which gives > > 500 suggested playlists each of 10 songs. and yes , there is a wire one. > > featuring 9 tracks from the 70's and just one subsequent one. > > > > as a little trivia item , anyone like to take a guess at the one Mk2 / > Mk3 > > wire track they chose? > > > > p > - -- http://Reliable Sound Products.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 22:27:35 -0000 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Artrocker Just ordered mine thanks, Keith. Nice Sparks review from Alec there btw. So you got Something For The Girl With Everything in London? Bugger! > In addition to the Mojo article cited by John Goddard, Colin's obviously > been very busy as there is a large (if only because they've increased > the page size) two page article in the latest Artrocker magazine (# 31). > > Page left is a review of the first three albums ('without Wire there > would be no link between 1976 and 2006') and a rather fetching early > photo of the band with Graham looking like he's travelled into the > future to meet Duran Duran, Colin in shredded white shirt and Robert > SMILING. > > Page right has an interview with Colin in which he displays his > excellent taste by bigging up KaitO and the 2002 version of Liars (I'll > look out for him in ULU in a few weeks then where these bands are on the > same bill) while naming Mo Tucker as his favourite Velvet. And also an > exclusive item - some photos of the band taken in 1976 at Watford Art > School by the magazine designer, Slim Smith, previously unseen. In > themselves not hugely exciting but an historical artefact. > > In case people want this issue it can be ordered through their website > http://www.artrocker.com/ (although it looks like individual issues may > be available in the UK only) where you can also read my mate Alec's > review of Sparks live. > > Another the Keith > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 28/02/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:43:01 +0000 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIRE IN MOJO 149 John Goddard wrote: > Wire have a Six page article in this months MOJO (MARCH 149) Edition > to mark the re release of the Harvest trilogy > > WIRE Just how did punk's professors of mordant minimalism - no guitar solos, > no clichis, no mates - influence a generation, asks Keith Cameron. > > http://www.mojo4music.com/html/mojo_new_issue.shtml > > page one iterates the November 9th 1979 Jeanetta Cochrane Theatre Apperance > The other five pages cover a history & an up to date tete a tete with Colin & > Graham > Couldn't quite work out where the interview came from, seems to have quotes from all 4...even Mr Gotobed, and refers to a meeting in June 2004! Mojo presumably have been sitting on the interview for nearly 2 years waiting for some re-issues. Anyway its a good feature, lots of stuff about George Gill & the early days..a teaser of the forthcoming live LP on Pink Flag...some quite funny interaction between Colin & Bruce...Bruce admitting to being somewhat 'chemically altered' during the making of Pink Flag..Malka wanted to give Elastica a slap when she saw Connected on TOTP...etc etc shame it stops at 154. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 02:42:00 +0000 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] People who collect Sex Pistols records are c*nts > $11,000 for a record as an artifact? Never understood this sort of Record Collecting. Its the point where records become currency. Whoever bought this saw it as an investment. We've all heard God Save the Queen. Somewhere along the line and the end of this miserable monetary chain is a very sad man (I can't imagine any Woman being stupid enough to pay 10 grand for 7" record...thats not sexist its true) who just has to have this so he can wank over it despite the fact that the very act of spending 10 grand for a Sex Pistols record makes a mockery of the whole point of the records very existence and in an ideal world would automatically devalue it. That man makes this record very valuable to a cynical ebayer. The same buyer would probably pay twice that to have Sid stab him to death...if only. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 22:51:09 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ipod In a message dated 3/2/06 11:42:47 AM, paulrabjohn@btinternet.com writes: > > //////even warmer. you've named almost every track in mark 3 wire except > the right one ;-) p > my initial guess was Drill, then German Shepherds, but given this quote I'm gonna go with the "title track"... R & B - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:41:24 -0800 From: "nowhere man" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] People who collect Sex Pistols records are c*nts i have all the pic sleeve 7 inchers and would let someone buy them for 10k. np never mind the sex pistols here's the gizmos - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:42 PM Subject: [idealcopy] People who collect Sex Pistols records are c*nts > > $11,000 for a record as an artifact? > > Never understood this sort of Record Collecting. Its the point where > records become currency. Whoever bought this saw it as an investment. > > We've all heard God Save the Queen. Somewhere along the line and the end > of this miserable monetary chain is a very sad man (I can't imagine any > Woman being stupid enough to pay 10 grand for 7" record...thats not > sexist its true) who just has to have this so he can wank over it > despite the fact that the very act of spending 10 grand for a Sex > Pistols record makes a mockery of the whole point of the records very > existence and in an ideal world would automatically devalue it. That man > makes this record very valuable to a cynical ebayer. The same buyer > would probably pay twice that to have Sid stab him to death...if only. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V9 #60 ******************************