From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #327 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, November 30 2005 Volume 08 : Number 327 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Trumpets With Motherhood [Fergus Kelly ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:57:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Trumpets With Motherhood Tony said: People are not always aware that one of Hayward' first bands was Quiet Sun (a kind of Matching Mole/Soft Machine affair) with Phil Manzanera which reformed, on the back of his Roxy success, to record "Mainstream" in 75 just as This Heat were formed. ((( Always had a soft spot for this record. Especially tracks like "Mummy was an asteroid, daddy was a non-stick kitchen utensil", and the barmy Hayward track "Trumpets With Motherhood" that begins with a great flurry of kit and flotsam, bit of a precursor to the use of metals in This Heat. The "out-takes" album sounds very promising. Like Faust and Can they had their own studio and were prolific improvisers/recorders so I guess there's a mountain of stuff to choose from. A DJ friend of mine had access to some of their tapes and tormented me by allowing me to hear some of it but refusing to copy it in the eighties. I know I thought it was great at the time.They also had at least some stuff recorded by the 4 piece version of the band which was due for release when it all fell apart including a projected single "Greenfingers". Here's hoping... ((( After This Heat ceased trading, Hayward went on to form Camberwell Now, with Stephen Rickard and Trefor Goronwy. They released 1 LP, The Ghost Trade, on Recommended I think, circa 1986. A rather good album, and one that should definitely be rereleased on CD. Completely song based, veering towards s l i g h t l y more poppy territory, none of the more exploratory areas This Heat delved into, but pretty strong nonetheless; there's an intensity there. Like Deceit, quite reflective, lyrically, of the political/cultural/media environment of the time. One song, Sitcom, has Hayward recall: "Remember watching the royal wedding together/when we asked each other: what's it all for ?/What's the point when it's so safe and soft/double locked and a well scrubbed floor" Greenfingers is the EP they released after the LP, and I only heard it once, and didn't like it as it seemed a bit too poppy for me at the time, so I never had a copy of it. Fergus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:36:59 +0200 From: giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Trumpets With Motherhood On 11/29/05, Fergus Kelly wrote: > > Tony said: > > People are not always aware that one of > Hayward' first bands was > Quiet Sun (a kind of Matching Mole/Soft Machine > affair) with Phil Manzanera > which reformed, on the back of his Roxy success, to > record "Mainstream" in > 75 just as This Heat were formed. > > Eno played on that album as well, didn't he? Liked it in my teens but heard one of the tracks on some compilation a few months back and... well, yawn... I'll check out Deceit, though. giluz - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #327 *******************************