From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #314 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, November 16 2005 Volume 08 : Number 314 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) ["Paul Pietromonaco" ] Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) ["Paul Pietromonaco" ] Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour [rdc ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Singing Bush! ["John Goddard" ] Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour [giluz ] Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour [rdc ] Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) [dpbailey@att.net] Re: [idealcopy]OT Nick Mason (Former New Order (was Gilmour) [Derek White] Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour [Derek White ] Re: [idealcopy]OT Nick Mason (Former New Order (was Gilmour) ["Paul Pietr] Re: [idealcopy]OT Nick Mason (Former New Order (was Gilmour) now a chrysalis ["nowhere man" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:43:37 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) > I like Nick Mason cos his book is funny and he helped cook the > worlds biggest Scone or something. > From November 2005 Q magazine - sorry can't find the photo online. - - Nick Mason, drummer for Pink Floyd, holds the record for baking the world's biggest crumpet. The record was devised as a way of promoting the AeroSuperBatics, "Europe's only professional wing-walking team", a team that was sponsored by a margarine company. Mason was a part-owner of the private airfield that was the HQ for the AeroSuperBatics, and added flour and stirred the batter throughout the day. The batter was mixed onsite in 201 plastic buckets. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:01:47 +0200 From: giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) On 11/15/05, Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > - Nick Mason, drummer for Pink Floyd, holds the record for baking the > world's biggest crumpet. What's a crumpet? - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:09:28 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) > What's a crumpet? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumpet A crumpet is a cake made from flour or potato and yeast eaten mainly in the United Kingdom, but also in the nations of the Commonwealth. The crumpet is circular in shape (usually; long and square varieties also exist) and has a distinctive flat top covered in small holes. It has a spongy texture and a fairly bland flavour. Crumpets are served hot, usually with butter. Other popular accompaniments include jam, Marmite, honey, or cheese. A pikelet is similar to a crumpet, but much thinner and sometimes irregularly shaped. (In some regions of Britain pikelet traditionally refers to a crumpet, muffin or other teacake.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:10:36 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) >> What's a crumpet? >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumpet > > A crumpet is a cake made from flour or potato and yeast eaten mainly in > the United Kingdom, but also in the nations of the Commonwealth. > Also, from the same source: In the UK, "crumpet" has become a slang term for a woman (or, more recently, a man) regarded as an object of sexual desire. Historically it has also been used as a non-sexual term of endearment. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:14:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) Known as english muffins in the u.s.a and aka as Pyeclets (spelling may be wrong) they're a half inch thick round ('bout the size of a c.d) pastry full of holes that one places under the grill, applies butter/cream and honey and eats with a cup o' tea. any the wiser? A giluz wrote: On 11/15/05, Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > - Nick Mason, drummer for Pink Floyd, holds the record for baking the > world's biggest crumpet. What's a crumpet? - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ "There are weapons you cannot hold in your hands. You can only hold them in your mind." - Bene Gesserit Teaching - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:36:42 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour In a message dated 14/11/2005 18:51:06 GMT Standard Time, zak_blakk@yahoo.com writes: Sometimes, even billionaires have altruistic, humanitarian ideas, you know........... ;-) And Zak, I believe that Gates has recently started yet another African campaign to counter Malaria with fairly cheap treatable drugs.He's put in about 100 million dollars or some such astronomical amount - but agreed probably not that much to him. But good on him I say. Fuck malaria. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:06:46 -0800 From: rdc Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 14/11/2005 18:51:06 GMT Standard Time, > zak_blakk@yahoo.com writes: > > Sometimes, even billionaires have altruistic, humanitarian ideas, > you know........... ;-) > > And Zak, I believe that Gates has recently started yet another African > campaign to counter Malaria with fairly cheap treatable drugs.He's put > in about 100 million dollars or some such astronomical amount - but > agreed probably not that much to him. > But good on him I say. > Fuck malaria. > > Chris it's true.i just got an e from gates offering me a free blow job and a big mac ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:18:19 -0000 From: "John Goddard" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Singing Bush! Most of the Demos mentioned are here for your listening pleasure http://www.norbry.net/kate-bush/mp3/ > > 1.. The Kick Inside (Brother) [note subtitle] > 2.. Hammer Horror > 3.. It Hurts Me (A Rose Growing Old, Feeling Like A Waltz) > 4.. Keep(ing) Me Waiting (Stranded at the Moonbase) > 5.. Davy (While Davy Dozed) > 6.. Disbelieving Angel > 7.. Moving > 8.. Kashka From Baghdad > 9.. Surrender Into the Roses (Coming Up, Carmilla) > 10.. Oh To Be In Love > 11.. Rinfi the Gypsy (Playing Canasta (in cold rooms)) > 12.. On Fire Inside a Snowball (Snow, Hot in the Ice) > 13.. Dali (Ferry Me Over) > 14.. Where are the Lionhearts (Lionhearts, On the Rocks) [NOT Oh England > My Lionheart] > 15.. Violin > 16.. The Craft Of Love > 17.. The Gay Farewell (Queen Eddie) > 18.. Something Like a Song (In My Garden) > 19.. Frightened Eyes > 20.. Never The Less (You'll Do) > 21.. Come Closer To Me Babe (Goodnight Baby, Who Is Sylvia?) > 22.. So Soft (You're Soft) > 23.. Rare Flower (I Don't See Why I Shouldn't (Pick the Rare Flower) > 24.. Organic Acid > > 12 of these would show up on later albums. Interestingly enough - there > isn't one set of early demos. They're in small batches recorded over the > years. http://gaffa.org/phoenix/index.html has all the gory details. > > The two Gilmour produced tracks on The Kick Inside I mentioned earlier are > from a set of 3. To quote from the above link: > -------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:22:26 -0800 From: "nowhere man" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) not too mention nick produced the first Damned records.........his heart was in the right place - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Pietromonaco" To: "wi re" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) > > I like Nick Mason cos his book is funny and he helped cook the > > worlds biggest Scone or something. > > > > From November 2005 Q magazine - sorry can't find the photo online. > > - Nick Mason, drummer for Pink Floyd, holds the record for baking the > world's biggest crumpet. The record was devised as a way of promoting the > AeroSuperBatics, "Europe's only professional wing-walking team", a team that > was sponsored by a margarine company. Mason was a part-owner of the private > airfield that was the HQ for the AeroSuperBatics, and added flour and > stirred the batter throughout the day. The batter was mixed onsite in 201 > plastic buckets. > > Cheers, > Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:24:09 -0800 From: "nowhere man" Subject: Fw: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ari" To: "giluz" ; Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) > Known as english muffins in the u.s.a and aka as Pyeclets (spelling may be wrong) they're a half inch thick round ('bout the size of a c.d) pastry full of holes that one places under the grill, applies butter/cream and honey and eats with a cup o' tea. any the wiser? A > > giluz wrote: On 11/15/05, Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > > > - Nick Mason, drummer for Pink Floyd, holds the record for baking the > > world's biggest crumpet. > > > What's a crumpet? > -- > Now playing: > http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ > > > > > "There are weapons you cannot hold in your hands. You can only hold > them in your mind." - Bene Gesserit Teaching > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:25:53 -0800 From: "nowhere man" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) are they as good as those other notorius gourmet items, chip butties of bangers and mash? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Pietromonaco" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) > > What's a crumpet? > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumpet > > A crumpet is a cake made from flour or potato and yeast eaten mainly in the > United Kingdom, but also in the nations of the Commonwealth. > > The crumpet is circular in shape (usually; long and square varieties also > exist) and has a distinctive flat top covered in small holes. It has a > spongy texture and a fairly bland flavour. > > Crumpets are served hot, usually with butter. Other popular accompaniments > include jam, Marmite, honey, or cheese. > > A pikelet is similar to a crumpet, but much thinner and sometimes > irregularly shaped. (In some regions of Britain pikelet traditionally refers > to a crumpet, muffin or other teacake.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:53:32 -0800 (PST) From: Jan Noorda Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour This evening on the dinner table we were talking about the Live at Pompei by Pink Floyd and a funny anecdote here is that there was a place for a dog during its performance. Don't know exactly which sound but the dog starts howling because of that sound. One of the members reached a microphone to it and everything became recorded. It seemed to be planned. Are there more examples of dogs or other pet sounds live on stage? The only thing I do remember is an hilarious example of Dutch fluxus artist Wim T Schippers and later tv personality but still with a hilarious attitude. A theater play for 4 dogs called Going to Dogs. j - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:07:47 +0200 From: giluz Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour On 11/15/05, Jan Noorda wrote: > > This evening on the dinner table we were talking about the Live at Pompei > by Pink Floyd and a funny anecdote here is that there was a place for a dog > during its performance. Don't know exactly which sound but the dog starts > howling because of that sound. One of the members reached a microphone to it > and everything became recorded. It seemed to be planned. > There's a song with that dog on Meddle too. Gilmour claimed to have a telepathic connection with it. I always thought that dog was the best musician PF had since Barrett - certainly the best singer. - -- Now playing: http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:26:40 -0800 From: rdc Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour giluz wrote: >On 11/15/05, Jan Noorda wrote: > > >>This evening on the dinner table we were talking about the Live at Pompei >>by Pink Floyd and a funny anecdote here is that there was a place for a dog >>during its performance. Don't know exactly which sound but the dog starts >>howling because of that sound. One of the members reached a microphone to >> >> >it > > >>and everything became recorded. It seemed to be planned. >> >> >> > >There's a song with that dog on Meddle too. Gilmour claimed to have a >telepathic connection with it. I always thought that dog was the best >musician PF had since Barrett - certainly the best singer. > >not only that....this dog was taken under gilmour's wing when he/she was between 14 and 16 puppy years old. the demos were done in lots of three only as the dog was bone tired after so many retakes. apparently gilmour also paid for the recording expenses, drinks, courtesans, and obediance school. these demo's have surfaced over the years on numerous releases. the dog was last heard of living in shepard's bush, on the dole with a pronounced drug habit, claiming to have been cheated of his royalties. says he has a major bone to pick with gilmour. ah, it's a dog's life. his story is similar to other great singers with a 7 octave range voice, career one day, face down pissed in the gutter the next. hopefully, chris blackwell will locate him as he did toots, of the maytals, and he'll be back in the poodle parlor and out of the dog house. i'm sure his bark is worse than his bite. hound dog tailor anyone.......maybe he'll come back as an eggroll in some asian bistro or a session player with keith's wingless angels. i raise a cold beer and a craven a to his mangy hide. it has happened to all of us. >-- >Now playing: >http://www.last.fm/user/giluz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:37:15 +0000 From: dpbailey@att.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) well, their 2nd lp, anyway. the debut album & single were produced by another nick (lowe). dan i - -------------- Original message from "nowhere man" : -------------- > not too mention nick produced the first Damned records.........his heart was > in the right place > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Pietromonaco" > To: "wi re" > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Order (was Gilmour) > > > > > I like Nick Mason cos his book is funny and he helped cook the > > > worlds biggest Scone or something. > > > > > > > From November 2005 Q magazine - sorry can't find the photo online. > > > > - Nick Mason, drummer for Pink Floyd, holds the record for baking the > > world's biggest crumpet. The record was devised as a way of promoting the > > AeroSuperBatics, "Europe's only professional wing-walking team", a team > that > > was sponsored by a margarine company. Mason was a part-owner of the > private > > airfield that was the HQ for the AeroSuperBatics, and added flour and > > stirred the batter throughout the day. The batter was mixed onsite in 201 > > plastic buckets. > > > > Cheers, > > Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:03:38 -0800 (PST) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT Nick Mason (Former New Order (was Gilmour) Paul Pietromonaco wrote: - - Nick Mason, drummer for Pink Floyd, holds the record for baking the world's biggest crumpet. The record was devised as a way of promoting the AeroSuperBatics, "Europe's only professional wing-walking team", a team that was sponsored by a margarine company. Cheers, Paul //// I think you may be referring to the team latterly known as the 'Utterly Butterly Wing-Walkers" there , Paul. In August I saw them 'do their stuff' at Walney Island Airshow, 3 miles from where I live, & I cannot conceive of a pile of money large enough that would induce me to do what they do.............................. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:13:55 -0800 (PST) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour giluz wrote: There's a song with that dog on Meddle too. Gilmour claimed to have a telepathic connection with it. I always thought that dog was the best musician PF had since Barrett - certainly the best singer //// 'Seamus. Also 'Madamoiselle Nobs' on the Pompeii S/T - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:36:50 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT Nick Mason (Former New Order (was Gilmour) > //// I think you may be referring to the team latterly known as the > 'Utterly Butterly Wing-Walkers" there , Paul. > In August I saw them 'do their stuff' at Walney Island Airshow, 3 > miles from where I live, & I cannot conceive of a pile of money large > enough that would induce me to do what they > do.............................. > > I believe they are one and the same - according to the website they are the Aerosuperbatics Utterly Butterly wingwalking display team: http://www.aerosuperbatics.com/ You're right - I couldn't do that either! ^_^ Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:48:43 -0800 From: "nowhere man" Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT Nick Mason (Former New Order (was Gilmour) now a chrysalis wow guys.....i googled utterly butterly.....isn't that the coolest thing?!?! i'm with you on the "you'd never get me up there" heck, i might have a problem standing under them. my father was in the air force..i've seen my share of thunderbirds and blue angels mishaps. this is so cool. love biplanes anyways. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek White" To: "Paul Pietromonaco" ; "wi re" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT Nick Mason (Former New Order (was Gilmour) > Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > - Nick Mason, drummer for Pink Floyd, holds the record for baking the > world's biggest crumpet. The record was devised as a way of promoting the > AeroSuperBatics, "Europe's only professional wing-walking team", a team that > was sponsored by a margarine company. > > Cheers, > Paul > //// I think you may be referring to the team latterly known as the 'Utterly Butterly Wing-Walkers" there , Paul. > In August I saw them 'do their stuff' at Walney Island Airshow, 3 miles from where I live, & I cannot conceive of a pile of money large enough that would induce me to do what they do.............................. > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:11:15 -0800 From: "nowhere man" Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT Nick Mason (Former New Order (was Gilmour) another thing about old nick....having the largest crumpet in the world beats mick with the most copious basket padding.now for some weetabix and brandy before bed...........hey ari...whatcha doin? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek White" To: "Paul Pietromonaco" ; "wi re" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT Nick Mason (Former New Order (was Gilmour) > Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > - Nick Mason, drummer for Pink Floyd, holds the record for baking the > world's biggest crumpet. The record was devised as a way of promoting the > AeroSuperBatics, "Europe's only professional wing-walking team", a team that > was sponsored by a margarine company. > > Cheers, > Paul > //// I think you may be referring to the team latterly known as the 'Utterly Butterly Wing-Walkers" there , Paul. > In August I saw them 'do their stuff' at Walney Island Airshow, 3 miles from where I live, & I cannot conceive of a pile of money large enough that would induce me to do what they do.............................. > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:21:42 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour >>in the u.k. he's probably in what, 98% tax bracket? that's what charlie watts said the stones were in. << In the '70s, when we had such things. Top UK tax bracket is now 40%; kicks in when you earn about #40,000. There's no supertax on the mega-rich any more - - that's what you get with 18 years of Tory government! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:32:04 -0800 From: rdc Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gilmour MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > > >>in the u.k. he's probably in what, 98% tax bracket? that's what > charlie watts > said the stones were in. << > > > In the '70s, when we had such things. Top UK tax bracket is now > 40%; kicks in when you earn about #40,000. There's no supertax > on the mega-rich any more - that's what you get with 18 years of > Tory government! > > Mark > > awwwwwww..............i see says ray charles. same in the states. except us working class yobs pay more! same with you? the lowest tax bracket here is like 28: %.then another 10% state of california + 8.5 p sales tax on every dollar you spend and 2 % percent property taxes, vehicle taxes. not much left to buy water! thanks for bringing me up to date on that. and thanks dan p. for the nicks............'preciate it! ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #314 *******************************