From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #296 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, October 29 2005 Volume 08 : Number 296 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] where's your eno now? ["Mike Edwards" ] [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V8 #295 ["Jason Rogers" ] [idealcopy] Faust, Bangor ["Keith A" ] Re: [idealcopy] franz/kate thoughts? ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] Black Dice ["Ian B" ] [idealcopy] The first day of Fitzmas [David McKenzie Subject: [idealcopy] where's your eno now? Arturo Stalteri doing a wonderfully stiff version of St. Elmo's Fire, Above the Orange Trees playing Outdoor Miner along with lots of other great music and the normal fumbling and bitching by your host on the podcast this week . http://www.inmyroompodcast.com see ya- Mike E. A life lived in love is revolution! - -quoted from the bathroom walls at El Charro. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:16:30 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V8 #295 >Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:47:24 +0100 >From: Tim >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: franz thoughts > >Jason Rogers wrote: > > > > At the Franz Ferdinand show, I felt...old. It was one of those "am I > > getting too old for this rock show thing?" moments and I've never had > > that before. Even at the shows like Interpol, Calla, British Sea > > Power, Bloc Party, etc. that I've been to, I see plenty of older music > > fans in the crowd. For some reason, though, the Franz Ferdinand show > > gave me the impression that I was walking into a college dorm party or > > something. > >Nah yr never too old for a gig! I intend to keep watching bands as long >as I can. > >I bet most of those kids were only their to look cool and pose. Half of >them will probably become accountants and never go see a band again >after they reach 25. The other half were probably thinking, how cool is >that old fella?! ;) > 'Tis true. I was thinking this in reference to the Gang Of Four show here in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago, as many of the younger kids in the crowd were standing still and probably wondering why all of us older fans were dancing like crazy. (Okay...I did have to move away from these two chicks in front of me who kept throwing their hands into the air and blocking my view of the band, but I was otherwise pretty tired from moving my feet to the music the entire show.) The same with the Pylon gig here a few months ago where the crowd averaged about 35 years of age and everyone was dancing like maniacs. Jason Now Playing: Run D.M.C. - Run D.M.C. (2005 remaster edition) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:36:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Catherine Wheel Tim wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong boys and girls but aren't Catherine Wheel some arse-end-of-1991-shoegazing band who couldn't get arrested in the UK and lucked out in the US? Are they not therefore to Chapterhouse what Bush were to Nirvana?! Or have i got confused? ////// Except that, AFAIK, Bush sell quite a few 'units' in the US.....(not as many as Nirvana, admittedly).....whereas, to the best of my knowledge, CW don't. But it's true Gav Rossdale's merry crew 'can't get arrested' here. Don't quite get the Nirvana comparison 'twixt Bush and Nirvana: what I've heard of Bush , they don't sound that similar... (See/hear :- 'Swallowed' , 'Chemicals between us' : in fact, 'The Science of...' album. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:55:45 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V8 #295 > The same with the Pylon gig here a few months > ago where the crowd averaged about 35 years of age and everyone was > dancing like maniacs. > > Pylon's still playing? I thought they had broken up a while ago. Are they touring, or was this a one-off show. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:06:56 GMT From: "P J Kane" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: Pylon back << Pylon's still playing? I thought they had broken up a while ago. Are they touring, or was this a one-off show. >> i was at that show too. according to their official site, http://wearepylon.com/, they are back together again. (go to Vanessa's History, and if you scroll through that section the announcement is somewhat buried.) they have played several shows in the last few years, and are working on deluxe remastered rereleases. and, as both Jason and I can attest, they still got it when they play live! PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:16:44 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: [idealcopy] Faust, Bangor Well, this was a weird one! Set in what was presumably once a cow shed of the rural Hendre Hall, but is now a fantastic spacious stone building (and tea rooms!), it was undoubtedly the strangest venue Ive seen a gig at. There was an enormous stove on one wall. In fact, it made me think that everyone should have brought sleeping bags with them and spent the night sleeping on the floor. Well, there are probably witches out there Yes, it had that sort of feel to it. Also, at one end of the room there was a small stage with additional percussive instruments on the floor in front of it. There were also two large metal bowls underneath some drums. Theyre filled with water, said my mate Ian. Oh dear, I thought. I dont want to be there the night one of Faust got electrocuted. Anyway, what about the gig? Well support act Ectogram were already on when I arrived. I wasnt sure what to make of them at first but they played at least two numbers that I liked, with the clattery percussion - slightly changing yet staying the same if that makes sense  being a highlight for me. Id not heard them before, but they impressed me enough to buy an e.p. later. As for Faustwell I wouldnt class myself as a fan by any means. In fact Ive got more ELO albums than I have Faust  and Ive only got one by those Brummie Beatle clones. And I havent heard Faust for more than 20 years since the said Ian played Faust 4 for us so we could all hear how Joy Division had ripped Atmosphere off them. But Id regretted not seeing them when they played my home-town in the 90s, and I always feel that theyre a band Im going to explore at some point. And so when Nightingales singer Robert Lloyd very kindly offered two tickets to folk on his mailing list (as he sadly couldnt make it after all), it seemed like fate that I was going. So what were they like? Well Faust came on and played the superb lengthy Krautrock instrumental that had real power and a Stones-like swagger. It truly was excellent and I thought we were going to get a more straightahead evening with a four-piece rock band than the avante garde one that the venue seemed to suggest. WRONG! After this Germanic take on Brown Sugar, it was madness all the way. The buckets of water were thrown over the floor as the drummer threw metal poles about. They didnt half bounce on the stone floor and standing at the front suddenly seemed like a bad idea. In fact I think one lad further up got one to the legs! It was the water that was the scarier proposition though  Im not the most technically minded mofo, but I do not know that water and electric are a worse combination than Dido and microphone, and I found myself desperately trying to cast my mind back to the last time I did a First Aid course with the question what do you do with electric shocks? repeatedly running through my head. After all, the guy was splashing with one hand whilst holding a mic in the other! Another friend, Tim then revealed himself to be the coolest member of the audience by barely acknowledging any recognition that the singer had ventured past him and was tenderly stroking the guy  who happened to be Ectograms drummer  next to him. Nothing unusual in that of course  watching small, hairy Krautrock legends stroking a drummer barely a foot away from you is a daily occurrence in Tims world!! (He later put it down to alcohol!) It was around about this point that I turned to my mate Ian and said, Well be talking about this one for years to come. He grinned and nodded. But there was much more to come, the singer grinning manically and shouting at the same German phrase for ages, four drummers suddenly walking through the audience from the back of the room  apparently live drummers are on the Faust rider!  and the drummer making percussive noises by using an electric drill on the piece of metal that was on the floor just where all the water was. I shouldnt have worried. It all passed without tragedy and anyway, my mate Ian reminded me after the gig that he had done nursing training many years ago, so I could, of course, just have left it to him. I was less keen on a couple of the more acoustic numbers though even these had their moments (one built up to something amazing), and one tinkly acoustic instrumental had moments of real beauty. They ended with a superb relentless thrash that was disappointing in that having built to this amazing crescendo they didnt hold it there for a further ten minutes, but I guess I was just being greedy by then because it really was excellent. The singer then thanked everyone involved  the owner of the venue, the stage manager, whoever had made their tea (Im not making this up!), and lots more folk before welcoming back Ectogram for both bands to join together and thrash and shout away without a care in the world. A suitably anarchic ending for a mad, bonkers  and lets not forget this  FUN evening. The singer then walked into towards the crowd, shook hands with me, grabbed one of my arms quite tightly, and then walked off. I felt strangely honoured as I belatedly said Ouch to my mate. I purchased the Faust album afterwards. Ive now got as many Faust albums as ELO ones. It seems only right somehow. After all, as I said earlier in the evening, well be talking about this gig for years to come K. np Julian Cope - rome wasn't burnt in a day ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:10:33 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] franz/kate thoughts? I saw this through eyes that just wanted to sleep, but i recall a lukewarm response; One guy was berating the lyrics to a song called Washing Machine ("slooshy slooshy") and claimed that at points on the album it sounded like she was just singing the first things that came into her head. Vocals by Rolf Harris were not deemed entirely welcome; one other exchange "It's eccentric" - "Yeah but it's the wrong kind of eccentric" Ian B PS anybody else think The Fall's current guitarist looks a bit like Nigel Winterburn? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Derek White > Regarding the new Kate Bush album, did anyone in range of UK TV see the 'Late Reveiw' section of 'Newsnight' last Friday? They were going to reveiw it, but due to circumstance had to dash out, and I missed the bit where they discussed it/showed the vid/played a track. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:15:07 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Black Dice Tim's review of Broken Ear Record piqued my interest, as well as a listen to a few brief moments on headphones at a Leeds record shop. Snapped it up and am quite enjoying it - perhaps not as much as the brief bursts I allowed myself in the shop suggested I would, but very good nonetheless. I can see the Dome references Tim mentioned; also slight and very brief hints of Alien Soundtracks/Half Machine era Chrome and the odd burst of Residents. How does it stand as an entree to their other stuff? Ian B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:48:43 -0500 From: David McKenzie Subject: [idealcopy] The first day of Fitzmas A ticker tape parade for the Chicago White Sox and a scooter in a box. Today ranks amongst my favorites. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:38:52 +0000 From: dpbailey@att.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The first day of Fitzmas & later, perhaps mr fitzgerald will perform a very special rendition of "safety in stuck in their hearts" ... dan - -------------- Original message from David McKenzie : -------------- > A ticker tape parade for the Chicago White Sox and a scooter in a box. > Today ranks amongst my favorites. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:42:54 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Clap Your Hands Say Yeah In a message dated 10/9/05 7:43:50 AM, steeleknight@lineone.net writes: > > Highly recommended - I suspect a lot of people here will like this. I > have a ticket to see them live in November in London which I'm now > looking forward to a lot. > > Some stuff can be found here: > > http://clapyourhandssayyeah.com/shows.php > i'm diggin what i've heard by them too. i just got the wolf parade - apologies to the queen mary cd. diggin them a lot too. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #296 *******************************