From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #289 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, October 24 2005 Volume 08 : Number 289 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Alistair's farewell 26/10/05 [Fergus Kelly ] Re: [idealcopy] yeah [J Alberson ] [idealcopy] O.T: exciting find (music) [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: OT jools ["Ian B" ] [idealcopy] [CD REVIEWS] Okay - it's weird. ["Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: [idealcopy] Alistair's farewell 26/10/05 This just arrived from Ronald: Fergus, sorry for the delay, but it's taken a couple of days to arrange things. A going away party for Al will be in St. Mary's in Stoke Newington Church Street on Wednesday 26th October at 12:30. Some music, a chance to say cheerio, and a little bit about Al. Drinks are on him afterwards, provisionally in the Rose and Crown, which is across the road from the church. He's going home for the actual funeral, we found a green site in Ayrshire, not far from where he and I were born and grew up. I've written your message for him, and I'll make sure he gets it. Thank you for your thoughts, it means a lot to me to know that so many people cared about him. Take care. Ronald ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 07:43:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Jools........ Yep, he did. He *still* overdid it though:- the solo in the coda of "Uncertain Smile" seems to go on for 3 or 4 days. Good song, but if the master tape were ever to 'lose' JH's insipid jingley-jangley Oscar Peterson impersonation, I wouldn't reach for the kleenex box........ Ari wrote:>>JH is starting to get on my tits, big time. He gets more ....um...bumptious as he goes<< ONLY good thing he ever did imho was play piano on Soul Minig......... (right?) A If it's fun............do it.................. __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:15:12 -0700 (PDT) From: J Alberson Subject: Re: [idealcopy] yeah I was very looking forward to the new record and find it unremarkable and dull, and agree entirely with Chris's sentiment here. Jack - --- chris242 wrote: > I'm kind of in the same place with you here. > > On Oct 22, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Derek White wrote: > > > I'll own up. I *really* liked 'Felt > > Mountain'. I even liked the tick-tock electropop > of > > 'Black Cherry'. But the new work sounds like the > > average bits of BC volume 2. > > > -- > > np: nothing > > > -Christopher (doktor242) > > > "The universe never did make sense; I suspect it was > built on a > government contract." > > > -Robert A. Heinlein > > http://www.vektor7.com > AIM- andreitaganov242 > Jack L. Alberson http://www.shortwavedahlia.org <--free music for free thinkers AIM: shortwavedahlia ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:26:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: exciting find (music) I love these people... downloads available.( go to the 'music' bar) http://www.lumii.org/music.html __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:01:34 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: OT jools I taped Later, and let it roll as I was reading this afternoon. I normally forward through the interviews as, unlike Jools, I find them embarrasing. But it was worth this one to see Alison Goldfrapp cringe in an 'oh my god what did I look like' kind of way, at the prospect of him running a brief clip of her from 1994 duetting with Tricky on 'Pumpkin' only to return a few minutes later in an outfit that would have made Elton John wince. I got offered a free ticket for Goldfrapp in Leeds the other week. I declined. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Derek White . As regards their stage > 'presentation', I think they're *either* getting some > bad advice, or let's just say Alison G's losing a > sense of proportion, , and leave it at that........ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:16:03 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: [idealcopy] [CD REVIEWS] Okay - it's weird. Hi everyone, I've been kinda slow on the CD purchase front lately. In fact, I've only purchased 3 CDs recently. Elbow's "Leaders Of The Free World", Rob Dickinson's "Fresh Wine For The Horses" and Mike Doughty's "Haughty Melodic". (I know, I know, I'm not that cutting edge. Sorry. ^_^) Okay - so the Elbow is great and all, but guess what I've been listening to non-stop? Yeah, that's right, the Rob Dickinson. If the name rings a bell, it should. He's the lead singer of Catherine Wheel. And, as a solo CD, there's no surprises here. It sounds like a very good Catherine Wheel CD, but a little quieter. (i.e. there's more acoustic guitar and piano ballads). The members of Catherine Wheel even guest on two tracks that may have been from an abortive attempt to make a new Catherine Wheel album. This stuff isn't for everyone. He's toned down the romantic melodrama a little bit, but considering that the first song is called "My Name Is Love", that kinda sets the stage for what's gonna follow. Still, any album that has a piano version of Warren Zevon's "The Mutineer" counts for something. This CD isn't perfect - it doesn't quite scale the heights of Adam & Eve or Ferment, but it's a hell of a lot better than Wishville. It does sound like he's finally worked around his legendary writer's block. In other CD news, I just got the Mike Doughty "Haughty Melodic" CD and I've spun it a couple of times. You may remember him as M. Doughty, lead singer & poet of the late, lamented Soul Coughing. This CD, on initial listen, sounds very good. It will remind you of Soul Coughing in places, but comes from a folk space, not a jazz space. There's a little sameness to the last few songs on the CD, but it starts out pretty strong. It's also nice to see him being productive again - he had quite the run-in with heroin addiction, but he seems to be back on keel. Mike also seems to have found a sympathetic home on Dave Matthew's ATO records - all of his original solo acoustic releases have been re-issued with remastered sound and new artwork. I'm looking forward to the new Fall CD. I think it's available in the states now, so I can save my international dollars. ^_^ I should get that soon. Cheers, Paul Now Playing: Paul McCartney "Chaos and creation, etc." from an AOL stream. Hey, for a McCartney album, this sounds pretty good. I think the pairing of him with Nigel Godrich may have been the best thing he's done in years, even if they fought like cats and dogs during the making of the CD. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:25:03 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: OT jools ...I'd have seen Goldfrapp. Fantastic at Glastonbury last year - but then again she/they weren't promoting that new CD then. Yet to hear it, glad I didn't fork out on the SACD as I nearly did! >>>I got offered a free ticket for Goldfrapp in Leeds the other week. I declined.<<< ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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I thought it was lacking in, well everything mostly. Apart from the Wire/Talking Heads comparison (oh yeah - they were both artschool wankers working with British producers, and that's about where it ends for me). I mean the book itself has some good parts, and it certainly brought back some stuff I haven't heard in ages and some stuff I never heard before, but the whole structure is problematic, and there's hardly any overall look with a decent cultural analysis of why processes happen. There are very good descriptions of small scenes but nothing that actually connects the whole thing together. And the epilogue simply sucks. Also, his insistence on connecting theory and praxis in such a linear way is simplistic. Good art never emerges from theory in that sort of clean modernist art school way he describes. it is the small coincidences and the way certain people connect that make it happen, in short: sex & drugs and rockn'roll. In Jon Savage's England's Dreaming, there's that part where he describes the way the NY Dolls were dressed, and after going through the theory part he finishes with the quote: "...they were putting on make-up because these young, beautiful girls liked it". In that same book you can find just a few sentences about the early Wire, that sum up and explain them much better than half the episode of Reynolds' book. cheers giluz ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #289 *******************************