From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #284 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, October 20 2005 Volume 08 : Number 284 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] human league ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] Trainspotters guide to punk [Doug Wittner ] Fw: [idealcopy] Trainspotters guide to punk ["Keith A" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:20:40 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] human league > >That said, The Dignity of Labour parts 1-4 are probably still their > >best work. > > > > > > dunno that one......more info? > a 4-track (i believe) 12" of instrumentals, iirc. i think it came with a flexi of some sort. added as bonus tracks to one of the reissues, though i've only got the vinyl. dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:28:54 -0700 From: Doug Wittner Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Trainspotters guide to punk i agree, the early HL material is pretty ace. WXJL Tonight, Marianne, Only After Dark, Dignity Of Labour, Blind Youth, even a lot of Dare is classic, IMO....i would even say unfadeable. picked up the recent reissue of Hysteria recently, and was struck how horrid an album it is...really liked it when i was 15, but the years haven't treated it well at all. rock me again and again and again and again and again and again? Crash was the first tremendous musical letdown of my life. i was disheartened by Human when i saw it on MTV, but repulsed by the whole damn thing upon buying the cassette (rushed to the store the day of release)...i remember it well, and would be glad to never hear that constipated funk Human League ever again... On 10/19/05, dpbailey@att.net wrote: > oh, definitely -- travelogue's quite good, dare's even better & reproduction has its moments. the fast label stuff was ace. after dare, though ... not for me, at least what i've heard. > > dan > > > > > > -------------- Original message from small black reptile : -------------- > > > > dpbailey@att.net wrote: > > > > >if i've heard pour some sugar on me -- i suppose i probably have, though i > > pretty successfully aovided the radio during the '80s -- i'm not aware of it. i > > have heard human, of course, but would just as soon not have. > > > > > >dan > > > > > > > > > > fumin league had an interesting period.....travelogue has it's moment > > > > np: the very best of the merseybeats > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------- Original message from Doug Wittner : > > -------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>however, both bands hailing from Sheffield, it's easy to get them mixed up. > > >> > > >>sadly, i would have to admit that i would rather pick "pour some sugar > > >>on me" over "human" on a jukebox anyday, though i'd rather hear > > >>neither... > > >> > > >> > > >>On 10/19/05, dpbailey@att.net wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>true enough -- good catch. in a pinch, i suspect i'd be better served by the > > >>> > > >>> > > >>human league's lp of that name, not that i own it. at least the latter group > > >>have some ace tunes in their back catalog. def leppard, not so much, afaik. > > >> > > >> > > >>>dan > > >>> > > >>>-------------- Original message from PaulRabjohn@aol.com: -------------- > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>careful here dan. "hysterics" is the 2nd nightingales album but i fear > > >>> > > >>> > > >>"hysteria" is by def leppard. could be a painful error if you get this one > > wrong > > >>;-) p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:01:09 +0100 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Very sad news This is tragic. I don't feel comfortable ringing the number. Does anyone have the funeral arrangements? Offline if you prefer. AndyL - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Keith A Sent: 19 October 2005 15:44 To: Fergus Kelly; ideal copy Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Very sad news > I just received this, and am finding it extremely > difficult to take in: Me, too. Shocking news. I won't be able to make it down to London, but as Fergus says, it would be nice if someone could represent IC. > > > Fergus, my name is Ronald Tear, I'm Alistair's > brother. I'm sorry to have to tell you that Al died > last night (Tuesday). If you would like to attend his > funeral, or there's anything you need to know, please > call me on Als number - 02088004125. > > Ronald. > > > If I was in London I would certainly attend his > funeral, but I'm sure the London quarter of the IC > will pay their respects. > > Deeply saddened. > > Fergus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:07:06 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: Fw: [idealcopy] Trainspotters guide to punk Uri's having trouble posting. He asked that I send this for him re Nightingales gig... > Hi Keith, > > I'm a Nightingales fan of some longstanding, in fact I interviewed Robert > lloyd for a fanzine around > 1984. The gig sounds very tempting. I'm having trouble posting to IC at > present as my mails get delayed for days > but I was wondering if you'd mention that I'm keen to go up to Leicester > for the gig and if anyone else from down south wants to go, > it may be possible to share transport and they should contact me. Sounds > like a great gig to be. > > Cheers > > Uri > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith A" > To: "Andrew Lumbard" ; > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Trainspotters guide to punk > > > > << Which reminds me. Another term like that is In The Good Old Country > > Way, > > which I mention because it - the Nightingales album of that name - is > > re-issued this month. And very good it sounds too - particularly, > > appropriately enough, How To Age! > > > > Just received the below. All for 6 quid. Are they touring then? > > > > AndyL > > > > Don't think so. Just one or two gigs. Saw them last year, and as Mark B > > said, they're another old band who are well worth seeing. They were > > superb - > > better than when I'd seen them in 1986! > > > > They sent out an invite to the album (Country Way) launch, so I'm hoping > > to > > make that next week. > > > > I love the way it says 'Preceded by Pub Quiz". You wouldn't get that with > > Robbie!! > > > > But going back to ITGOCW album... > > > > There's some great stuff on it - it sounds better than ever IMO, esp How > > To > > Age, an extraordinarily great riff-laden track that lasts some six and a > > half minutes, and features Lloyd extolling his words of wisdom before > > indulging in a spot of screeching that wouldn't sound amiss on an old > > rockabilly record. It's worth the admission for this track alone. > > > > And the excellent Part time Moral England, with its 'We love T.Rex' line > > is > > sure to appeal to the Bolan fan in me!! > > > > > > > > > > <> > > > > THE NIGHTINGALES > > + EVIL DICK AND THE BANNED MEMBERS + ECHO LOCATION + LITTLE HOPE + POST > > PUNK TUNES TIL 2AM > > > > Friday 25 Nov 2005 > > The Attik, Free Lane, Leicester > > Adv Tickets: #6 > > Doors: 8pm > > > > To coincide with the long awaited first time CD release of two classic > > Nightingales albums - 'Hysterics' and 'In The Good Old Country Way' Robert > > Lloyd and pals return to Leicester. > > Long time John Peel faves, the 'Gales began life as the Prefects and > > supported the Clash on the White Riot tour in 1977. > > As the 'Gales they refined their sound in a manner similar to other second > > wave punk acts (such as the Fall and the Mekons) and had substantial indie > > chart success in the 1980s signed to Rough Trade, Cherry Red, Red Flame > > and > > their own Vindaloo records. Singer Robert Lloyd ran Vindaloo, releasing > > records by, and managing, We've Got A Fuzzbox and Ted Chippington. He then > > went on to solo success with his New Four Seasons signing to Marc Riley's > > In > > Tape Records before major label album release 'Me and My Mouth' on Virgin. > > Criminally dropped by the record company in the early 90s he become > > something of a recluse until a Prefects reunion gig sparked off the > > current > > wave of activity with a series of new 'Gales singles released in the last > > 12 months. The latest 'Gales newsletter is reproduced below. > > Expect 'Gales songs old and new and the dusting off of some classic > > Prefects. > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 30/09/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:01:18 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Very sad news Logging on quickly before going to work and I find this news. Jeez. I will have fond memories of Alistair, fag in hand, talking knowledgably about music. This is just awful. Another the Keith ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #284 *******************************