From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #275 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, October 12 2005 Volume 08 : Number 275 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Andrew legs it [Fergus Kelly ] [idealcopy] This from Dan......... [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] This from Dan.........Pt.3 [Ari ] Re: RE: [idealcopy] This from Dan.........Pt.3 [rose_dan@colstate.edu] [idealcopy] EARLY WIRE ["John Goddard" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:08:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Andrew legs it Jan said: And Tim? Was there harmony between the three: mind, sense and body when you listen to the H3O recordings? I am nearly sure Andrew has some Gurdjieff texts and sound on his shelves. Hope he is doing fine. Last message was he had to leave Iceland. Ran out of money. ((( So where is he now Jan ? Back in the UK ? I got a copy of An Utterance Of The Supreme Ventriloquist recently, and I have to say, it's supremely good. Vintage Hafler. Popped it on the pod. Can't stop playing it. Fergus __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:41:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] This from Dan......... >>i'm thinking about rejoining the list at any moment, actually. probably will do so before i leave work in - -- glancing at my watch -- 43 minutes.<< Encourage him guys.............. Ari If it's fun............do it.................. __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 04:09:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] This from Dan.........Pt.3 I think this only came to me...... welcome back Dan, let the fun begin. Ari. Ari - --- dpbailey@att.net wrote: > > > -------------- Original message from Ari > : -------------- > > > > >>i'm thinking about rejoining the list at any > moment, > > actually. probably will do so before i leave work > in > > -- glancing at my watch -- 43 minutes.<< > > which i did. not much to say right now -- for > whatever reasons, haven't felt inspired to pay any > attention whatsoever to music all year long, though > perhaps i'm sloooooowly emerging from that torpor > ... brought home the new public enemy & franz > ferdinand last week, & was expecting fall heads roll > in the mailbox yesterday before arriving at the > house after work & realizing that columbus day meant > the post hadn't run (no doubt because the govt wants > to shows its indebtedness to the mafia, or > something). last week the postman *did* manage to > deliver the recent stereolab 3cd of non-lp stuff, at > least, though i haven't yet listened to it. > > glad to be back -- hope all are well, & thanks for > your kind thoughts. > > dan If it's fun............do it.................. __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 04:12:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] ..with the house you've gained Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:09:25 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] On returning Welcome back, Jack. Nothing happening on the Wire front and it's pretty doubtful we'll see them again as a unit I'd guess. But Githead have been out and about. ((( Welcome back Jack. Here's my photos of Githead's Dublin show, plus some other recent gigs of note, such as Damo Suzuki and Pere Ubu. Fergus __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:32:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Darkness Sweet Microdisney (was Franz F butwe got bored of em!) I doubt it'll take a whole *thirty years* to manifest itself........expect prescriptions for Prozac etc to teens to rise in, say, 14 or 15 years. And a new phenomenon of Amphibophobia. ;-) Wonder if the frog got 'virtually depressed' after his 'dangly bits' were removed from the vids..... Tim wrote: CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > in 1971 that Co-Co was at #2 and Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep was > #1 was one of the worst of my life - I actually think I was depressed as > a result. > > Oh God Keith I laughed myself senseless at that.Hilarious > > Chris > Someone will say the same thing about Crazy Frog in 30 years time - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:52:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Sweet / Glam (was Franz F but we got bored ...) PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: have you heard "velvet tinmine" derek? well worth a punt , sure you'd love some of it ;-) p No, I haven't, but suspect it's a parody of the 'Velvet Goldmine' OST ??**** I'll investigate....... (Always thought that 'Velvet Goldmine' was a parody in itself:- I think written by someone (and I'm not being 'sniffy' here),like Mark or Keith A who was *maybe* in short trousers at the time of the Glam 'phenomenon'...... I think it was meant as an attempt to capture the essence of Glam, rather than to be a rockumentary type thing, but to use an entirely gratuitous and irrelevant football analogy, managed to score a bullseye on the corner flag from the penalty spot with the goalkeeper off the pitch for a 'comfort break'. Lawdy, but IMHO it stunk..... I was aghast when I saw just how many estimable artistes had contributed to the debacle, The Ashtons, some of Placebo, Paul Kemble, the list is quite lenghy and only unreliable memory prevents me listing them..... MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: >>Take Bolan, Bowie And Roxy out of the equation and you're left with a singles market. << Sparks? Mott the Hoople? Cockney Rebel? Really there were two completely parallel "glams": The arty Bowie/Roxy/TRex division, genuine musical innovators working within pop, but with a very deep and lasting influence... ...and the "manufactured" purely singles bands (Sweet, Gary Glitter, Mud etc). In many cases these were bands or singers who had missed out in the 60s and were having another go at fame - in the case of Gary Glitter & Alvin Stardust, moderately successful 50s rockers; people like Ian Hunter or Alex Harvey were well into their 30s by then - but were able to surf the glam wave too. Mud were a 60s down-the-bill beat combo; Slade had an established image as a neo-skinhead rock band... Etc. Of course Derek and AT Keith are sniffy about glam - they were already album-buying teenage "heads" - into prog, hard rock etc. The likes of Astbury & Bursa, however, were snotty 10-year-olds for whom albums were impossibly expensive - but ex-juke box singles were 10p each. Sure, there was an album market - but that wasn't what it was really about... The 60s were over - here was something that was new, fresh and belonged to the future. Didn't last; the 70s soon degenerated into Genesis/Yes /ELP turgidness. But it made for a nice feeling of deja vu when punk came along... Mark Certainly some valid points in there. The opening list of Sparks/Mott the Hoople/Cockney rebel I'd say was only partly accurate:- certainly Sparks and Cockney Rabble belong there, but I feel that Mott the Hoople never *really* belonged in that category, being rather more of a trad-rock band who were on the verge of going completely tits-up and going back to real jobs before Bowie gave them "All the young dudes" (allegedly writing it in 10 mins flat on a ciggie-packet or somethin') :- it's success dissuading them from splitting , subsequently they signed to Mainman. In that respect, I think they more properly belong on the list of 60's acts having another stab at it riding on glam's coat-tails. Although I recall the media and some fans lumped them in there, I think the Bowie connection+Overend Watt's post-'dudes' spangles and platforms stagewear, (and possibly having Queen for a support band on the latter's first tour) is all the connection they had, really. Having fished out my two 'Mott' compilations and played them last night, one of which was the Island period , and the 2nd the CBS stuff, if you ignore the rather camp half-spoken "All the way from Memphis" bits in that single, I'm still not convinced they should be filed under 'Glam'. I also blew the cobwebs off "The Psychomodo" and "Best years of our lives" , and they sounded SO-OO very dated, and like they faux-Bowie we all knew they were, so no real contribution there, to future music, methinks. Bac to the 'webs for YOU, Mr Harley..... While I'm certainly happy to acknowledge the huge influence of Roxy Music and Bowie without whom Bauhaus and The Furs, [to name but two of a whole slew of acts], wouldn't have even begun, I find it less easy to see any lasting 'Arty' influence of T.Rex:- whilst I'll concede they had their moments, they also laid some *real* eggs. Some of that late-period stuff *really* blows. True, some artistes may owe Bolan a debt for his onstage persona & general style, but I can't think where the archetypal TRex shuffle/'boogie' appears to have influenced much at all, 'cos it's endearingly 'trad' in some ways. I'm struck by disbelief at the comment of 'our boys' to have used T Rex as a template for 12XU !! Oh really? Well, if they said it, then obviously they'd know, but there again, how far were 'cheeking tongues' engaged? I can't spot it, for the life of me. Maybe it's my lack of detailed knowledge of the Bolan canon, but beyond there being an 'X' in both T ReX and 12XU, I don't see it. Perhaps someone could point me at the interveiw or whatever where this was admitted? Honest, beyond a preference for frill-free, simple arrangements, I can't see what they've 'borrowed' . Surely they can't mean the one-note 'throb' that is the bassline , is the same as a one-note throb in ,say, 'Elemental child ??' If that's the case, that's a pretty thin parallel there, lads........but if it inspired you, fair enough, I guess. I wouldn't have spotted it though. As for being a bit sniffy about the genre, though, well partly guilty as charged:- but steady on, there, Mark ;-):- I'm not *that* much older than you or Keith A, (I was 14 in 1970 when, IIRC "Ride a white swan" was a hit ? Poss glam's "year zero" ?? ) At that time I admittedly owned a few albums, but not *that* many. The stuff I DID own at that time album-wise were two Island records samplers ("Bumpers and "Nice Enough To Eat") a CBS sampler ("Fill your head with rock"): these were nice cheap 'ins' to what was later called 'prog' . As for individual artistes albums, there was Frank Zappa's "Hot Rats", Pink Fairies' "Never Never Land" and Led Zeppelin 2 & 3. However, I *STILL* owned more singles than I did LP's, but I guess by way of a spin-off effect from the sort of albums I was listening to, they weren't by and large 'pop', admittedly, but stuff like Hendrix's "Voodoo Chile" , Fleetwood Mac's "Green Manalishi etc", and most of this was picked up on by listening to Kid Jensen's Radio Luxemburg 'LP show' under the bedclothes, scuzzy reception notwithstanding. I also had a slew of stuff on singles from the 60's Beatles-inspired 'beat group' period, too. But as you say, I was 'sniffy' about stuff that appeared later such as Mud, Sweet, latter-day T Rex, Wizzard, Suzi Quatro and all the other 'manufactured' stuff. AND ENTIRELY CORRECTLY SO, I RECKON........ The stuff has no nostalgia value for me at all, beyond it being that annoying stuff that was on every jukebox in every pub that by then I was sneaking into. I didn't know anyone of my peer group who liked it, so maybe that couple of years difference in age does change our respective estimation of the entire glam phenomenon, after all........in retrospect I can see the fun element in it, but can't see any lasting artistic merit, beyond those examples already mentioned. Oh, and I *really* have to take issue with the inclusion of Alex Harvey on that list....!!! I've never , ever heard anyone before file him under 'Glam' . Beyond his bass-player's spangly cod-piece, and Zal Cleminson's rather sinister clown make-up, I just don't see *that* at all !!!!!!! And he was probably into his 40's by then, too................ - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:24:48 +0000 From: dpbailey@att.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Sweet / Glam (was Franz F but we got bored ...) nope -- it's a comp of so-called "junkshop glam," as i believe the liner notes term it ... 2nd- or 3rd-division acts that made probably one good single (that may or may not've charted) before disappearing into oblivion. actually, velvet goldmine is probably the one soundtrack (other than the harder they come, anyway ... well, & rocky horror ... & hedwig & the angry inch could well make the list someday, too) that i've ever played multiple times. lord knows i've never claimed to be gifted with any sort of discernment, though. dan - -------------- Original message from Derek White : -------------- > PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > have you heard "velvet tinmine" derek? well worth a punt , sure you'd love some > of it ;-) p > No, I haven't, but suspect it's a parody of the 'Velvet Goldmine' OST ??**** > I'll investigate....... > > (Always thought that 'Velvet Goldmine' was a parody in itself:- I think written > by someone (and I'm not being 'sniffy' here),like Mark or Keith A who was > *maybe* in short trousers at the time of the Glam 'phenomenon'...... I think it > was meant as an attempt to capture the essence of Glam, rather than to be a > rockumentary type thing, but to use an entirely gratuitous and irrelevant > football analogy, managed to score a bullseye on the corner flag from the > penalty spot with the goalkeeper off the pitch for a 'comfort break'. > > Lawdy, but IMHO it stunk..... I was aghast when I saw just how many estimable > artistes had contributed to the debacle, The Ashtons, some of Placebo, Paul > Kemble, the list is quite lenghy and only unreliable memory prevents me listing > them..... > > > MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > >>Take Bolan, Bowie And Roxy out of the equation and you're left with a > singles market. << > > > Sparks? > Mott the Hoople? > Cockney Rebel? > > Really there were two completely parallel "glams": > The arty Bowie/Roxy/TRex division, genuine musical innovators working within > pop, but with a very deep and lasting influence... > > ...and the "manufactured" purely singles bands (Sweet, Gary Glitter, Mud etc). > > In many cases these were bands or singers who had missed out in the 60s and were > having another go at fame - in the case of Gary Glitter & Alvin Stardust, > moderately successful 50s rockers; people like Ian Hunter or Alex Harvey were > well into their 30s by then - but were able to surf the glam wave too. Mud were > a 60s down-the-bill beat combo; Slade had an established image as a neo-skinhead > rock band... Etc. > > Of course Derek and AT Keith are sniffy about glam - they were already > album-buying teenage "heads" - into prog, hard rock etc. The likes of Astbury & > Bursa, however, were snotty 10-year-olds for whom albums were impossibly > expensive - but ex-juke box singles were 10p each. Sure, there was an album > market - but that wasn't what it was really about... > > The 60s were over - here was something that was new, fresh and belonged to the > future. Didn't last; the 70s soon degenerated into Genesis/Yes /ELP turgidness. > But it made for a nice feeling of deja vu when punk came along... > > Mark > Certainly some valid points in there. The opening list of Sparks/Mott the > Hoople/Cockney rebel I'd say was only partly accurate:- certainly Sparks and > Cockney Rabble belong there, but I feel that Mott the Hoople never *really* > belonged in that category, being rather more of a trad-rock band who were on the > verge of going completely tits-up and going back to real jobs before Bowie gave > them "All the young dudes" (allegedly writing it in 10 mins flat on a > ciggie-packet or somethin') :- it's success dissuading them from splitting , > subsequently they signed to Mainman. In that respect, I think they more > properly belong on the list of 60's acts having another stab at it riding on > glam's coat-tails. Although I recall the media and some fans lumped them in > there, I think the Bowie connection+Overend Watt's post-'dudes' spangles and > platforms stagewear, (and possibly having Queen for a support band on the > latter's first tour) is all the connection they had, really. Having fis! > hed out > my two 'Mott' compilations and played them last night, one of which was the > Island period , and the 2nd the CBS stuff, if you ignore the rather camp > half-spoken "All the way from Memphis" bits in that single, I'm still not > convinced they should be filed under 'Glam'. > > I also blew the cobwebs off "The Psychomodo" and "Best years of our lives" , and > they sounded SO-OO very dated, and like they faux-Bowie we all knew they were, > so no real contribution there, to future music, methinks. Bac to the 'webs for > YOU, Mr Harley..... > > While I'm certainly happy to acknowledge the huge influence of Roxy Music and > Bowie without whom Bauhaus and The Furs, [to name but two of a whole slew of > acts], wouldn't have even begun, I find it less easy to see any lasting 'Arty' > influence of T.Rex:- whilst I'll concede they had their moments, they also laid > some *real* eggs. Some of that late-period stuff *really* blows. True, some > artistes may owe Bolan a debt for his onstage persona & general style, but I > can't think where the archetypal TRex shuffle/'boogie' appears to have > influenced much at all, 'cos it's endearingly 'trad' in some ways. > > I'm struck by disbelief at the comment of 'our boys' to have used T Rex as a > template for 12XU !! Oh really? Well, if they said it, then obviously they'd > know, but there again, how far were 'cheeking tongues' engaged? I can't spot > it, for the life of me. Maybe it's my lack of detailed knowledge of the Bolan > canon, but beyond there being an 'X' in both T ReX and 12XU, I don't see it. > Perhaps someone could point me at the interveiw or whatever where this was > admitted? Honest, beyond a preference for frill-free, simple arrangements, I > can't see what they've 'borrowed' . Surely they can't mean the one-note 'throb' > that is the bassline , is the same as a one-note throb in ,say, 'Elemental child > ??' If that's the case, that's a pretty thin parallel there, lads........but > if it inspired you, fair enough, I guess. I wouldn't have spotted it though. > > As for being a bit sniffy about the genre, though, well partly guilty as > charged:- but steady on, there, Mark ;-):- I'm not *that* much older than you or > Keith A, (I was 14 in 1970 when, IIRC "Ride a white swan" was a hit ? Poss > glam's "year zero" ?? ) At that time I admittedly owned a few albums, but not > *that* many. > > The stuff I DID own at that time album-wise were two Island records samplers > ("Bumpers and "Nice Enough To Eat") a CBS sampler ("Fill your head with rock"): > these were nice cheap 'ins' to what was later called 'prog' . As for individual > artistes albums, there was Frank Zappa's "Hot Rats", Pink Fairies' "Never Never > Land" and Led Zeppelin 2 & 3. However, I *STILL* owned more singles than I > did LP's, but I guess by way of a spin-off effect from the sort of albums I was > listening to, they weren't by and large 'pop', admittedly, but stuff like > Hendrix's "Voodoo Chile" , Fleetwood Mac's "Green Manalishi etc", and most of > this was picked up on by listening to Kid Jensen's Radio Luxemburg 'LP show' > under the bedclothes, scuzzy reception notwithstanding. I also had a slew of > stuff on singles from the 60's Beatles-inspired 'beat group' period, too. But > as you say, I was 'sniffy' about stuff that appeared later such as Mud, Sweet, > latter-day T Rex, Wizzard, Suzi Quatro and all ! > the other > 'manufactured' stuff. AND ENTIRELY CORRECTLY SO, I RECKON........ > > The stuff has no nostalgia value for me at all, beyond it being that annoying > stuff that was on every jukebox in every pub that by then I was sneaking into. > I didn't know anyone of my peer group who liked it, so maybe that couple of > years difference in age does change our respective estimation of the entire glam > phenomenon, after all........in retrospect I can see the fun element in it, but > can't see any lasting artistic merit, beyond those examples already mentioned. > > Oh, and I *really* have to take issue with the inclusion of Alex Harvey on that > list....!!! I've never , ever heard anyone before file him under 'Glam' . > Beyond his bass-player's spangly cod-piece, and Zal Cleminson's rather sinister > clown make-up, I just don't see *that* at all !!!!!!! And he was probably into > his 40's by then, too................ > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:23:53 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] This from Dan.........Pt.3 Huzzah! Welcome back Dan. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Ari Sent: 11 October 2005 12:10 To: dpbailey@att.net; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] This from Dan.........Pt.3 I think this only came to me...... welcome back Dan, let the fun begin. Ari. Ari - --- dpbailey@att.net wrote: > > > -------------- Original message from Ari > : -------------- > > > > >>i'm thinking about rejoining the list at any > moment, > > actually. probably will do so before i leave work > in > > -- glancing at my watch -- 43 minutes.<< > > which i did. not much to say right now -- for > whatever reasons, haven't felt inspired to pay any > attention whatsoever to music all year long, though > perhaps i'm sloooooowly emerging from that torpor > ... brought home the new public enemy & franz > ferdinand last week, & was expecting fall heads roll > in the mailbox yesterday before arriving at the > house after work & realizing that columbus day meant > the post hadn't run (no doubt because the govt wants > to shows its indebtedness to the mafia, or > something). last week the postman *did* manage to > deliver the recent stereolab 3cd of non-lp stuff, at > least, though i haven't yet listened to it. > > glad to be back -- hope all are well, & thanks for > your kind thoughts. > > dan If it's fun............do it.................. __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:42:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Oops I guess it'd be helpful if I actually included the link to those photos I mentioned earlier - http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ DOH !! (thanks Ari) Fergus __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:33:53 -0400 From: rose_dan@colstate.edu Subject: Re: RE: [idealcopy] This from Dan.........Pt.3 It's beginning to and back again (or something like that)! Welcome back!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Knight Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 2:23 pm Subject: RE: [idealcopy] This from Dan.........Pt.3 > Huzzah! Welcome back Dan. > > Another the Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Ari > Sent: 11 October 2005 12:10 > To: dpbailey@att.net; idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] This from Dan.........Pt.3 > > I think this only came to me...... welcome back Dan, > let the fun begin. Ari. Ari > > --- dpbailey@att.net wrote: > > > > > > > -------------- Original message from Ari > > : -------------- > > > > > > > >>i'm thinking about rejoining the list at any > > moment, > > > actually. probably will do so before i leave work > > in > > > -- glancing at my watch -- 43 minutes.<< > > > > which i did. not much to say right now -- for > > whatever reasons, haven't felt inspired to pay any > > attention whatsoever to music all year long, though > > perhaps i'm sloooooowly emerging from that torpor > > ... brought home the new public enemy & franz > > ferdinand last week, & was expecting fall heads roll > > in the mailbox yesterday before arriving at the > > house after work & realizing that columbus day meant > > the post hadn't run (no doubt because the govt wants > > to shows its indebtedness to the mafia, or > > something). last week the postman *did* manage to > > deliver the recent stereolab 3cd of non-lp stuff, at > > least, though i haven't yet listened to it. > > > > glad to be back -- hope all are well, & thanks for > > your kind thoughts. > > > > dan > > > If it's fun............do it.................. > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! 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LOST BOY JOHNNY BROWN AFTER MIDNIGHT FADE BITCH ROAD RUNNER MAR 1977 MARY IS A DYKE TOO TRUE THE COMMERCIAL JUST DON'T CARE STRANGE BRAZIL IT'S SO OBVIOUS THREE GIRL RHUMBA LOWDOWN FEELING CALLED LOVE 12XU Mr SUIT ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #275 *******************************