From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #273 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, October 10 2005 Volume 08 : Number 273 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] there's no frigging justice eh what................. [CH] RE: [idealcopy] OT: Sweet / Glam (was Franz F but we got bored ...) ["Ke] [idealcopy] Clap Your Hands Say Yeah ["Keith Knight" ] [idealcopy] new go4 session on R6 [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Sweet / Glam (was Franz F but we got bored ...) [Tim] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 06:03:10 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] there's no frigging justice eh what................. In a message dated 07/10/2005 01:26:31 GMT Daylight Time, weasel_bot@hotmail.com writes: Yup - Ari's right. They use radioactive iodine to "kill" the thyroid function if it's overactive. So - basically - Ari's "hot" right now! ^_^ So,would Ari glow in the dark Paul ?? Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 11:47:57 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT: Sweet / Glam (was Franz F but we got bored ...) It was, as usual, more complicated that that at the time. The singles chart was such an important part of life in the early 70s that one had to engage with it, whether you wanted to or not - no hiding away for a mid-teenager whose album-buying capacity was pretty limited in 71 and 72 but improved as the next few years progressed. Very little prog or hard rock in the charts of course to choose from - Zeppelin famously refused to release singles in the UK. But virtually every time you turned the radio on you were faced with a very limited range of singles most of which by the early-70s - thanks in no little part to Chinnichap - were crap. But good stuff shone through. I've already nailed my flag to the Glitter mast (don't misconstrue that statement please!). I had bought T Rex singles to the derision of my school mates. I rather liked Tiger Feet. I vividly recall the first time I heard Virginia Plain while on holiday in a caravan. But this stuff was a world away from Little Willy and Chop Chop. It was all down to quality in the end. The fact that people who looked like truckers were dressed up in sparkly trousers and make-up on TOTP was just what was happening - I never bought into it as a lifestyle option (rather like punk I don't recall many people dressing in the full gear at the time) but never regarded it as particularly odd when on TV or on stage Progressive rock - and the Virgin stuff and Kratrock - was always an album-based alternative. But the singles chart continued to be home to a different species right through the early to mid 70s. I'm trying not to reopen the prog / punk wars here so I'll stop! Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: MarkBursa@aol.com [mailto:MarkBursa@aol.com] Of course Derek and AT Keith are sniffy about glam - they were already album-buying teenage "heads" - into prog, hard rock etc. The likes of Astbury & Bursa, however, were snotty 10-year-olds for whom albums were impossibly expensive - but ex-juke box singles were 10p each. Sure, there was an album market - but that wasn't what it was really about... The 60s were over - here was something that was new, fresh and belonged to the future. Didn't last; the 70s soon degenerated into Genesis/Yes /ELP turgidness. But it made for a nice feeling of deja vu when punk came along... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:40:29 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: [idealcopy] Clap Your Hands Say Yeah I've spent chunks of the last 24hours listening to the debut album of this Brooklyn band and liking what I hear a great deal. This could be the first post-Arcade Fire band - in their manner there's a Talking Heads feel about a lot of it - in fact if it had been released as Talking Heads second album instead of More Songs. I don't think many people would have complained. The singer has a interesting gulpy voice and the band are accomplished and can ring the changes in style - I even found myself sub-vocalising 'in the yellow bulb light' during a bit of stand-out track The Skin of My Yellow Country Teeth (and, yes, their song titles are like this - see what I mean about The Arcade Fire?). Highly recommended - I suspect a lot of people here will like this. I have a ticket to see them live in November in London which I'm now looking forward to a lot. Some stuff can be found here: http://clapyourhandssayyeah.com/shows.php Another the Keith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 06:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: there's no frigging justice, eh what In a message dated 07/10/2005 01:26:31 GMT Daylight Time, weasel_bot@hotmail.com writes: Yup - Ari's right. They use radioactive iodine to "kill" the thyroid function if it's overactive. So - basically - Ari's "hot" right now! ^_^ >>So,would Ari glow in the dark Paul ??<< Chris Sorry guys, I only glow for pretty women...... A If it's fun............do it.................. __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. 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Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 16:13:31 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] new go4 session on R6 _http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/events/hub/gangoffour_gallery.shtml_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/events/hub/gangoffour_gallery.shtml) 2 tracks and an interview , very good stuff. p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:09:32 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Sweet / Glam (was Franz F but we got bored ...) MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > In many cases these were bands or singers who had missed out in the 60s and > were having another go at fame - in the case of Gary Glitter & Alvin > Stardust, moderately successful 50s rockers; people like Ian Hunter or Alex Harvey > were well into their 30s by then - but were able to surf the glam wave too. Mud > were a 60s down-the-bill beat combo; Slade had an established image as a > neo-skinhead rock band... Etc. There is a really good book just waiting to be written on this subject. ...or has it already been written? I knew about 'Shane Fenton', and I know Slade had a past but I never knew Mud had a pre-history although when you look at them it makes sense! If I were a writer I'd do it myself! I'd call it "You must be out of your tiny minds" (after Alvins famous road safety ad) or "We just haven't got a clue what to do!" > > Of course Derek and AT Keith are sniffy about glam - they were already > album-buying teenage "heads" - into prog, hard rock etc. The likes of Astbury & > Bursa, however, were snotty 10-year-olds for whom albums were impossibly > expensive - but ex-juke box singles were 10p each. Sure, there was an album market > - but that wasn't what it was really about... These days you could have downloaded as much ELP and Camel as you wanted. That said..why aren't all the kids into Sigur Ros and Mew? There is still a desire for pop songs as a one-shot thing. Yesterday I sat on a train and a girl behind played the same tinny song over and over on her mobile phone....deeply annoying but I recognised the cultural significance of what she was doing... and cranked up my Iriver H320 and put the Hafler Trio on to blank it out. > > The 60s were over - here was something that was new, fresh and belonged to > the future. Didn't last; the 70s soon degenerated into Genesis/Yes /ELP > turgidness. But it made for a nice feeling of deja vu when punk came along... Johnny Rotten mentions being very annoyed about being quoted as having Van der Graf Generator as an influence in this months Record Collector. He says he liked VDG but they didn't influence the Pistols. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #273 *******************************