From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #250 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, September 17 2005 Volume 08 : Number 250 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Fw: From Graeme........ [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] Tracing a beeline to witness a flooding [Derek White ] [idealcopy] OT: Kate Bush...Double Fantasy or Send? [Tim ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Please help me choose an MP3 player! [David McKenzie ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: From Graeme........ (written for The Gathering but thought you might like to read it... pass it on to IC if you like) Public transport was very cheap for me in Berlin. In fact none of the buses asked me for a fare for any journeys. Later I discovered all these efficient and honest Germans pay at machines. Ignorance is bus! Went to see Wire play the loudest, most aggressive and deranged gig I will ever see them do. The crowds reaction was verging on insane. There were no limiters on the PA like most timid English venues and the place was a former East German bunker painted totally black. They'd played everything they knew and could NOT get away without resurrecting Drill & Lowdown. It is now highly unlikely that Wire will play another gig, but never say never with Wire. I was honoured to witness what might turn out to be their last four performances. Drank many beers courtesy of the generosity of Lewis & Gilbert and accidentally passed out in Ostbahnhof which is actually more comfortable than a French hotel. I only spoke to one German who spoke no English all the time I was in Berlin. Every German I met was helpful and friendly, but the falafel was like rock! Anyone else seen any killer gigs in Berlin? ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:07:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Tracing a beeline to witness a flooding Fergus Kelly wrote: Barbara Bush: Things Working Out 'Very Well' for Poor Evacuees from New Orleans ..............."And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them." I can't help thinking that the acronym for The WarAgainst Terror is TWAT, which just about sums this stupid fucking woman up.. ///// Quite. When I read that statement, I just sorta sat there with my jaw hanging slack, utterly speechless. Then, anger kicked in....... I have never heard such an ill-judged, crass, insensitive, and downright INSULTING remark in all my life, but I have no doubt Dubya will top that before his day's done. So, what she's saying is, your home may be under 20ft of water, you've lost everything you ever owned, which wasn't much in the first place, but now all your keepsakes too are at the bottom of the fetid delta, not to mention the fact that Uncle Joe may well have been one of those bloated corpses floating down main street, or tied up in a bin bag & left on a flyover, but because at long last FEMA gave you a ration pack and a blanket and got you a billet where you may be robbed, raped or worse, and this is "working well for them" ???? What fucking planet is this woman on ? And she's let out without a care assistant?? Ye gods, the mind boggles. I fervently hope she dies in pain, the monumentally stupid piece of sub-plankton. Preferably in the same auto wreck as Dubya. The overall level of intelligence on earth would actually rise should it happen..... - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:40:50 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Please help me choose an MP3 player! Thanks for all the Mp3 player advice boys and girls! In the end I went for the Iriver H320 and am really pleased with it. Its quite chunky (slightly bigger than 1st gen Ipod) but seems like a sturdy piece of kit...i'd be scared of the Nano ending up in the washing machine its so tiny! Sturdy enough (needs to be as I take my player everywhere I go). Plays lots of different formats, its reliable and the sound quality is crystal clear with plenty bottom end and no distortion. Switched it to Shuffle and the first song it played? 106 Beats That from 'The Scottish Play'...its got built in good taste! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:06:21 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] FINAL SUMMER CLEAROUT Derek White wrote: > Hmm . Ta for the info. > > "Second lengh" is the re-tread of "Our Swimmer" done at (IIRC) a > pretty fast and furious pace, is it? Only heard it the once , on a > Peel program many years ago, but was pretty taken by it. Thats it. Catapult 20 is a further remix of it, more Dome-esque though. > Always really liked the song , despite it's long coda where not a > great deal happens...... I think it might be my favourite Wire song. Kind of everything thats good about Wire Mk1 and 2 compressed into a single track. I like the Coda. It reminds me of 'Another Brick in the Wall' though...anyone else? Remember JP saying "and there go Wire, > grinning and picking their way into your ears wth that..." Bought it > the next day. I rather care for the B-side, too ("Midnight Bahnhof > cafe"):- I don't think this has ever surfaced on any album or > compilation on CD, but maybe someone here knows better. Both these excellent tracks are on the CD version of Document & Eyewitness. > > Or what about a DVD with all the single promo vids? Is there enough > vids for songs to make the project a goer ? The only one I've seen > is "Kidney Bingoes". Most of the singles of Mk2 Wire have a promo. There used to be a VHS and CD Rom doing the rounds called 'Free Speech and More TV' with the above on it plus the Rockpalast show (before its official release) and ace promos for Eardrum Buzz, So & Slow It Goes, Silk Skin Paws, Ahead etc plus a few solo vids, interview etc. Great TV version of Kidney Bingoes with colin playing a Toothbrush solo...... No DVD version yet (bootleg or otherwise)...there is plenty of material, interviews, promos, live clips etc to make a great DVD of Wire Mk 2. Licensing issues presumably prevent this. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:45:40 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Kate Bush...Double Fantasy or Send? Derek White wrote: > I'm not really sure what to feel about Kate Bush releasing a new > album after all this time:- It says a lot about Kate Bush that a bunch of Wire fans would care less anyway. Hence the anticipation of this new one. I suspect KB fans are an eclectic bunch like Wire fans. > 1) That her exceedingly singular voice will have changed drastically > during the long lay-off:- it's a very physical process after all, and > could be the ol' larynx muscles will have seized up somewhat, or > there's *maybe* even a chance that her vocal chords will have > stretched with age, thus dramatically dropping her voice in pitch, a > la Marrianne Faithful. Do we really want a disk from Kate that > doesn't sound like her ? I don't think I do....... Possible, although I think she's looked after herself a bit better than Marianne Faithful! > > 2) Just what sort of nick her songwriting abilities are in, As far as I know, Kate's been doing the quiet > getting-it-together-in-the-country domestic number during this > hiatus(?), But she never exactly lived like Pete Doherty did she?. Kate has never had a heavy schedule and she hasn't toured since 1979 apparently. I would imagine she spends most of her time on the farm, riding horses, making jam, knitting arran sweaters, dreaming, cloudbusting etc. > > I hope I'm wrong , and Ms Bushhhh delivers an all-killer, no filler > release, but I fear a premature Xmas turkey. At best, AT Keith's > option I wrote 'em actually... c) may come to pass. 4 good tracks and a shovel of > make-weight padding? I feel that's the best we'll get.> Who knows. Most artists have a maximum of 5 good records in them. I've heard a few very dissapointing records this year from some favorite bands (the new Super Furry Animals LP for example). maybe Kates done her work already. I'm not exactly thrilled at the prospect of Brian Wilsons new LP which is a 'Christmas LP' (the mans obsessed with f**king santa claus!) Here's hoping Kate does a 'Send' rather than a 'Double Fantasy' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 03:04:03 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Black Dice are the new Dome I recommend the new Black Dice record 'Broken Ear Record' This ain't yer bog standard electronica bleepy stuff. Completely bonkers. Veers from noise freakouts to barmy tribal chants and drums, to loopy electronica, cool guitar riffs and back again. But its also melodic (in parts). They do defy easy categorisation. This sounds to me like Dome but with 21st century technology. Or Cabaret Voltaire produced by Fennesz. http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=18828 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:21:12 -0500 From: David McKenzie Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Please help me choose an MP3 player! On 9/16/05, Tim wrote: ...i'd be scared of the Nano ending up in the washing my first mini did not do too well in the wash (though i suspect it was the dryer which did the permanent dammage to both battery and drive) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #250 *******************************