From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #178 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, July 2 2005 Volume 08 : Number 178 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] ot-internet stuff ["Tear Alistair (ST)" Subject: [idealcopy] ot-internet stuff Haven't checked this out myself so can't confirm if it really is...the most useful website ever A This is from a Guardian list of useful websites This could be the most useful website ever. Enter the address of a site that asks you to register before giving you access (like the New York Times), and Bugmenot will give you a login name and password. Get full access to websites without the hassle of registering. And if Bugmenot doesn't have a user name for a site, you can add your own. 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This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] TELEVISION (Manchester Academy II) a belated note in the margin. Keith A wrote: Nice one, Derek. Have you got a recording of this, young man or just a very good memory? ; ) ///// No, unfortunately I don't have a recording of it, more's the pity. I did record some gigs a long, long time ago, but found that it got in the way of actually enjoying the gig too much, when you couldn't really clap, shout, jig about or do anything , really, for fear of spoiling the end result, so I gave up on it:- my comments are all down to a photographic memory....:-) Sadly, it's of the 'Polaroid' instant camera variety, and fades rapidly over time. Nicely illustrated by the fact that when you said "and they didn't do "Friction"... " I tried to remember whether or not they did it last year when supporting Patti Smith, but couldn't recall for sure. (I think they *may* have done) For weeks after that gig I could have accurately given you the set, who used what guitar on what song (easy), possibly even what they were wearing. To my horror, I find now that beyond "Hey, I was there" and "They were pretty damn good", the other details are kinda sketchy. [ Now, please pass me that mug of warm milk to wash the tablets down with, please nurse...... ] ;-) My mate said i was very nimble with regards to the photo's too!! Certainly they're a decent bunch of pix, taken at physically close quarters (not for you the digital zoom , eh?) : if I have time to crop the 'backs of people's heads' bits off the shots, I'll send the few I took at the 'other' Manc. academy last year. Sadly, neither of our photographic endeavours show what Tom Verlaine had in the locker pedal-wise, and (for a gear-head), I slipped up in not looking for myself. Drat. Think there was just two:- some overdrive/compressor box, perhaps, and some sort of phaser/vibrato box, but what they were I ain't got a clue.............. Make Yahoo! your home page ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:12:16 -0400 From: Timothy Sasscer Subject: [idealcopy] Rip It Up and Mike Thorne, Brief de-lurk for an American perspective of Rip it Up, and a link which was new to me, although if well known in these parts, consider it a reminder: 1. Bought it from Amazon UK, they said something about 17 pounds, but it doesn't weigh nearly that much. Still satisfyingly hefty. Read it in a couple of days, fascinated by the details of English post punk that I knew only through records. I was a massive PiL fan and felt this book was a vindication (albeit an unnecessary vindication) of the most meaningful thing in my life outside of food/clothes/shelter/love/sex. This is why I play music still, despite never making money or much attention: this music poured gasoline on the flame the Beatles/Stones lit. Possibly my non-Englishness (or age; 45) explains a complete disinterest in Human League/Soft Cell synth/twee/harmony bands, and those chapters seemed out of place compared to the revolutionary sounds of PiL, Go4, Throb. Gr., the Cabs, etc. They may have been post punk, but so were Motley Crue. I liked the history of the Scottish guitar bands, glad SST was outlined, and even enjoyed from a historical perspective the Trevor Horn stuff. 2. Re: Ideal Copy: To Be or not to Be. My vote is To Be. I enjoy the discussions, links and insights here and have since becoming a member. Not a fan of the football commentary, but the music input far outweighs the divergent chatter. Part of being a Wire fan, it seems to me, is community and camaraderie with like minded individuals, and I like to hear about other bands as well. Living in Atlanta, Ga. offer few opportunities for current live music, thus, for example, the recent link to Art Brut was very well received. (Aside to the world: Apologies for our moronic/satanic 'leadership'..there ARE humans over here; please don't judge us too harshly...we do what we can). 3. Original Live Aid surprised me with sets from Yoko Ono and Fela jamming with Ruben Blades...anyone know of anything cool for Live 8? 4. finally, on topic: As mentioned, if this is old news, consider it a reminder. Mike Thorne. go here: http://www.stereosociety.com/pinkflag.html Thanks, cheers, and Keep rocking in the free world Tim ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #178 *******************************