From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #133 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, May 19 2005 Volume 08 : Number 133 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Re: New Order ["Mileta Okiljevic" ] [idealcopy] FW: Wire ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] ot: declaring war on Holland [Bart van Damme ] [idealcopy] Songs of praise [Fergus Kelly ] Re: [idealcopy] Songs of praise & devastation [Bart van Damme ] [idealcopy] way OT and quite cheeky: anyone know anyone at any (UK/EU) distributors, pref. electronic? [Andrew Walkingsh] [idealcopy] Blurt & Wire ["Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: New Order > From: Derek White > I recall seeing NO on a South Bank show or something, some years ago, when Barney admitted he was having trouble, both with writing lyrics AND singing them, and that he'd got so dispirited by this that he'd tried hypnotherapy to try and cure him of the twin maladies of writers block and tunelessness.....perhaps it's time to repeat the dose, B..... > > dw NO was unofficially announced as one of headliners for Exit festival (www.exitfest.org) in April, then all rumours stopped. I heard from some circles around the people who are involved in organisation that reason is Barney and his above mentioned troubles. Until now, i thought it is their "explanation" for not booking them..BBC4 will broadcats whole event. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:57:10 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] FW: Wire Hi Craig - could you push this out on idealcopy? My work email system lets me receive idealcopy but I can't seem to contribute any more... - -----Original Message----- From: Chris Hawkins [mailto:chris.hawkins@bbc.co.uk] Sent: 17 May 2005 08:11 To: Clements, Bruno - BUP Subject: RE: Wire Quite right Bruno - lovely story and I'll use it when I next play some Wire. I've been sorting through and it looks likely tomorrow night between 1 and 1.30am. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: Clements, Bruno - BUP [mailto:B.Clements@bepp.co.uk] Sent: 16 May 2005 12:52 To: Chris Hawkins Cc: 'idealcopy@smoe.org'; 'Ari' Subject: RE: Wire Thanks, Chris. I just heard an even nicer Wire story yesterday. One of the Wire newslist (Idealcopy) subscribers, a 61-year-old called Ari who moved to the US from the UK in the late 1960s, has had to give up list membership to concentrate on his health (he has internal bleeding, which is obviously very worrying). Anyway, Colin Newman (who either reads the list emails, or had Ari's resignation email forwarded to him) personally emailed Ari to wish him all the best with his health. How many other bands have someone who'd do something as caring as that? Bruno - -----Original Message----- From: Chris Hawkins [mailto:chris.hawkins@bbc.co.uk] Sent: 16 May 2005 09:23 To: Clements, Bruno - BUP Subject: RE: Wire Nice story Bruno, thank you for sending it and very glad you enjoyed hearing Wire. I love playing out the live concert stuff at 4 each morning. A real chance to reminisce! Cheers, Chris - -----Original Message----- From: Clements, Bruno - BUP [mailto:B.Clements@bepp.co.uk] Sent: 13 May 2005 08:50 To: Chris Hawkins Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Wire Hi Chris, Thanks for the Wire at Camber Sands... there are more Wire fans out there than you might imagine. I was in the Fopp store in Bristol the other week, casually glancing at the Wire CDs, when a youthful student asked me which was the best album. Turned out he was after Chairs Missing (which has a fair claim to that title as, of course, it contains the wonderful I am the Fly, etc.) Fopp didn't have it in stock, but five minutes later I bumped into him in Replay Records and he was happily clutching a copy. Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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Further communication will signify your consent to this. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:07:49 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot: declaring war on Holland Though enthusiastically played (the two violin players tripping over each other was not rehearsed I'm sure), they tried a little too much and with Power Out & Rebellion they played two bit similar sounding (and badly mixed) songs. The "Funeral" album as a whole has much more variety than the 2 tracks suggest. You really should hear the opening diptych of the album: Tunnels & Laika, combining stereotype chord structures, weird dissonants and over-the-top singing. Their earlier "The Arcade Fire EP" is quite good too - like a great rehearsal for Funeral. Also I found some older material online, intimate little gems like "Cars and Telephones". Their songs remind me of lots of other music I've heard, but I think the mix is a unique weird wholeweat blend. Bart > watched the friday show on tape yesterday. arcade fire are sort of ok , but a > bit overblown and not incredibly original. were those tracks about typical? p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 05:19:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Noorda Subject: [idealcopy] [OT]Ian Curtis [RIP] Its today 25 years ago Ian Curtis took his life Of course there is an emotional story to tell In Netherlands they were doing that in this programm. http://www.vpro.nl/programma/grensverkeer/ j. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 06:48:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Songs of praise Apologies if this has been clarified already... an7ti7phon A devotional composition sung responsively as part of a liturgy. A short liturgical text chanted or sung responsively preceding or following a psalm, psalm verse, or canticle. Such a text formerly used as a response but now rendered independently. A response; a reply: It would be truer... to see [conservation] as an antiphon to the modernization of the 1950s and 1960s (Raphael Samuel). - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Late Latin antiphna, sung responses. See anthem.] [Download or Buy Now] Source: The American Heritage. Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright ) 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. antiphon n : a verse or song to be chanted or sung in response [syn: antiphony] Source: WordNet . 2.0, ) 2003 Princeton University Fergus Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:27:13 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Songs of praise & devastation OK, let's go over this one more time: If Bach is a "polyphonic" composer and he for many people equals Christ... then surely "antiphon" must mean something like "anti-christ"? Bart [brain hurts] > Apologies if this has been clarified already... > > > an-ti-phon > > A devotional composition sung responsively as part of > a liturgy. > > A short liturgical text chanted or sung responsively > preceding or following a psalm, psalm verse, or > canticle. > Such a text formerly used as a response but now > rendered independently. > A response; a reply: It would be truer... to see > [conservation] as an antiphon to the modernization of > the 1950s and 1960s (Raphael Samuel). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:24:41 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: Da Blues Someone sent me this. How to write a blues song: A Primer Most Blues begin, "Woke up this morning..." "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the Blues, 'less you stick something nasty in the next line like, "I got a good woman, with the meanest face in town." The Blues is simple. After you get the first line right, repeat it. Then find something that rhymes . . . sort of: "Got a good woman with the meanest face in town. Yes, I got a good woman with the meanest face in town. Got teeth like Margaret Thatcher, and she weigh 500 pound." The Blues is not about choice. You stuck in a ditch, you stuck in a ditch--ain't no way out. Blues cars: Chevys, Fords, Cadillacs and broken-down trucks. Blues don't travel in Volvos, BMWs, or Sport Utility Vehicles. Most Blues transportation is a Greyhound bus or a southbound train. Jet aircraft an' state-sponsored motor pools ain't even in the running. Walkin' plays a major part in the blues lifestyle. So does fixin' to die. Teenagers can't sing the Blues. Adults sing the Blues. In Blues "adulthood" means being old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis. Blues can take place in New York City but not in Hawaii or any place in Canada. Hard times in Minneapolis or Seattle is probably just clinical depression. Chicago, St. Louis, and Kansas City are still the best places to have the Blues. You cannot have the blues in any place that don't get rain. A man with male pattern baldness ain't the blues. A woman with male pattern baldness is. Breaking your leg cause you skiing is not the blues. Breaking your leg 'cause a alligator be chomping on it is. You can't have no Blues in a office or a shopping mall. The lighting is wrong. Go outside to the parking lot or sit by the dumpster. Good places for the Blues: a) Highway; b) Jailhouse; c) Empty bed; d) Bottom of a whiskey glass. Bad places for the Blues: a) Dillard's; b) Gallery openings; c) Ivy League institutions; d) Golf courses; e) Starbucks No one will believe it's the Blues if you wear a suit, 'less you happen to be a old ethnic person, and you slept in it. Do you have the right to sing the Blues? Yes, if a) You older than dirt; b) You blind; c) You shot a man in Memphis; d) You can't be satisfied...No, if a) You have all your teeth; b) You were once blind but now can see; c) The man in Memphis lived; d) You have a 401K or trust fund. Blues is not a matter of color. It's a matter of bad luck. Tiger Woods cannot sing the blues. Sonny Liston could. Ugly white people also got a leg up on the blues. If you ask for water and your darlin' give you gasoline, it's the Blues. Other acceptable Blues beverages are a) Cheap wine; b) Whiskey or bourbon; c) Muddy water; d) Nasty black coffee. The following are NOT Blues beverages: a) Perrier; b) Chardonnay; c) Snapple; d) Slim Fast; e) Mocha Latte If death occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it's a Blues death. Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is another Blues way to die. So is the electric chair, substance abuse and dying lonely on a broken down cot. You can't have a Blues death if you die during a tennis match or getting liposuction. Some Blues names for women: a) Sadie; b) Big Mama; c) Bessie; d) Fat River Dumpling Some Blues names for men a) Joe; b) Willie; c) Little Willie; d) Big Willie Persons with names like Michelle, Amber, Debbie, and Heather can't sing the Blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis. Make your own Blues name Starter Kit: a) Name of physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Lame, etc.); b) First name (see above) plus name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, Kiwi, etc.); c) Last name of President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.); d) For example, Blind Lime Jefferson, Jakeleg Lemon Johnson or Cripple Kiwi Fillmore, etc. (Well, maybe not "Kiwi.") I don't care how tragic your life, if you own a computer, you cannot sing the blues. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:57:08 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] way OT and quite cheeky: anyone know anyone at any (UK/EU) distributors, pref. electronic? Hi all - just on the off chance, and sorry to abuse the list, but does anyone know anyone at any electronic music distributors (in the vein of Baked Goods - basically electronic listening music)? I'd explain, but it's a long story. - - Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:09:32 -0700 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] Blurt & Wire "Let's not forget Ted played sax with Wire on Former Airline in the Garage in 2000 . . . ." I've been lucky enough to get to hear this-a great noise! I don't usually have dream line ups, but I do have this one: Metal Urbain and Blurt opening for Wire. I made a small attempt towards bringing this wish to reality by making the suggestion last year to the guy who's running Metal Urbain's label that on their next tour of the US they might want to hook up to the next Wire tour. I know, deam on. By the way, if you go to the Blurt site you can order CD-Rs of out of print Blurt and Ted Milton disks, and Ted hand letters the sleves for you. You can also get his handmade-found materials poetry books through the site, and they're very cool if you like that sort of thing. Robert (another) ****************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This E-Mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please do not distribute and delete the original message. Please notify the sender by E-Mail at the address shown. Thank you for your compliance. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:41:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: [idealcopy] Just in time! Lengthy reviews and some personal opinions So being on a serious budget with little money to spend on new music, I've been revisiting my older albums and have even been giving some of my Yes CD's a spin! (It's come to that!) So after biting the bullet and putting in a Posteveryting order that I really can't afford, the following arrived in yesterday's mail: Wire "The Scottish Play" + pink flag pin :) Githead "Profile" + 'Free Git' Lobe "Hibernation" Silo "Alloy" The latter two I bought after really liking their tracks on the Swim Team 2 CD and I've been playing the Silo album to death since it arrived! The Lobe CD hasn't grabbed me as much, but I'll give it its day in court. (Assuming I can stop playing 'Alloy' which is playing right now, actually!!) I haven't gotten around to the Wire DVD yet, and actually haven't switched on my TV for nearly a month but will set some time aside this Saturday for a proper listening. The Githead CD's are interesting, to say the least! I like all of "Free Git" a lot and there are some great songs on Profile as well! One in particular, "They Are" kind of evoked Eno a bit and I could kind of see the song fitting onto his "...Warm Jets" album. On the other side of the coin, one song I actually skipped past on my second listen! So to wrap up, I'll probably be eating cheese and crackers for a week to pay for them, but I'm really happy with the purchases and Posteverything's online shop was phenomenally fast and efficient! Hasta! RJH __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #133 *******************************