From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #120 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, May 6 2005 Volume 08 : Number 120 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Subject: [idealcopy] ot: for uk psych furs fans ["Scott Kellock" ] [idealcopy] For Paul (the techie) [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] JAZZ! and not jazz [rose_dan@colstate.edu] [idealcopy] jazz not JAZZ! [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] For Paul (the techie) ["Paul Pietromonaco" ] [idealcopy] Re: JAZZ! and not jazz [Jan Noorda ] [idealcopy] Fw: Singer Collins battling MRSA bug ["Keith A" ] Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Singer Collins battling MRSA bug ["Keith A" ] Re: [idealcopy] Eardrumbuz wrote....... [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Eardrumbuz wrote....... [Ari ] RE: [idealcopy] nine inch nails ["Creaig Dunton" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:08:05 +0100 From: "Scott Kellock" Subject: Subject: [idealcopy] ot: for uk psych furs fans Psychedelic Furs touring uk in June, hopefully a Scottish date will be included. Last seen them in 1991 at the Barrowlands. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 06:04:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Githead website For those of you who've not travelled to PE yet to check out Profile, the new Githead website is now live: http://www.githead.co.uk/ Lots of new info, pics and MP3s. Craig - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://www.wireviews.com News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 06:23:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] For Paul (the techie) Tell me Paul,if you will,why does it take so long to download something using a bit-torrent as opposed to 'normal' (i.e fast) downloads.(like Kazaa) e.g,I belong to a bit-torrent and am in the process of downloading all 5 Radiohead singles,this has been ongoing now for 3 days and it's only at 40%,admittedly the quality is superb, but a week!! to download? what's happenin'? Ari __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 09:40:31 -0400 From: rose_dan@colstate.edu Subject: Re: [idealcopy] JAZZ! and not jazz I remember Rollins, Royal Trux, Slint, and a few more listing Ornette as an influence. Lou Reed (during VU and after) made a big deal about Ornette as well. Radiohead said something about free jazz in general. What would Wire think? Wish I'd seen that Ornette show..... caught him with an acoustic trio in New Orleans a few years back. Just mind blowing........ - ----- Original Message ----- From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2005 10:25 pm Subject: Re: [idealcopy] JAZZ! and not jazz > In a message dated 5/4/05 9:19:16 PM, rose_dan@colstate.edu writes: > > > > I'm a bit opposite to this. I find the sixties, particularly late > > Coltrane, Ornette, Ayler, etc. to be lobe twirlers. There's a sound > > those guys tapped into, a zeitgeist similar to the sounds Wire made, > > me thinks. > > > > add dolphy, mingus...but if noise is not what the listener craves, > these can > all be difficult dishes to start with. ornette coleman live was > one of the > best non-rock shows i've been to. he stood center stage, with an > acoustic trio > (guitar, bass, drums) on one side and an electric trio (guitar, > bass, drums) on > the other. great sonic experience, and a cool visual. > > venturing back into the 'rock' genre (punk, postpunk, postrock, > indie, > whatever...), does anyone know of any artists who have credited > jazz artists as > influences or such? one that comes right to mind are windy & carl. > i think it was > the consciousness cd that was recorded after they spent quite some > time > listening to lots of alice coltrane. > > -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:06:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] jazz not JAZZ! >>I remember Rollins, Royal Trux, Slint, and a few more listing Ornette as an influence. Lou Reed (during VU and after) made a big deal about Ornette as well. Radiohead said something about free jazz in general. What would Wire think? << The Rolling Stones have oft said that jazz was one of their main influences..........Black and Blues confirm this. Ari Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:48:41 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] For Paul (the techie) Hi Ari, > Tell me Paul,if you will,why does it take so long to > download something using a bit-torrent as opposed to > 'normal' (i.e fast) downloads.(like Kazaa) I don't use BitTorrent or Kazaa, although I am familiar with the theories behind both. I did find this link that might be helpful: http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/38.html Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:17:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Githead website Is this going to be released in U.S.A? Ari - --- Wireviews wrote: > For those of you who've not travelled to PE yet to > check out Profile, the new Githead website is now > live: http://www.githead.co.uk/ > > Lots of new info, pics and MP3s. > > > Craig > > > ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- > http://www.wireviews.com > News, reviews and dugga. > > VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com > SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com > -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- > > > > Discover Yahoo! > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and > more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:37:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Noorda Subject: [idealcopy] Re: JAZZ! and not jazz Do you say JAZZ or do you say no. Now you have a point. Don't know why I did feel so uncomfortable hearing Jazz music. There was always that feeling that the musicians have to be the instrument they are playing and they had to be good. Because when a solo was there, people had to stand up, and shout for more. Lots of egos. And when you were allowed to play, you first had to be a higly degreed first class musician. And isnt that the point why late 70s a wave called punk or post-punk took their chance. Its good fun listen to music made by people who couldnot play the scales. And they had a message. So do we have to listen again at solos for half an hour. Will there be a new Jaco Pastorius or a Passport label? And jazz influences on Rolling Stones? Haven't they became a charactor of themselves? np Keiji Haino : Black Blues Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:54:12 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: Singer Collins battling MRSA bug Subject: Singer Collins battling MRSA bug Edwyn update. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4516585.stm [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of BBC NEWS Entertainment Music Singer Collins battling MRSA bug.url] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:12:01 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Singer Collins battling MRSA bug god keith , you had me worried that my hero PHIL collins was in a bad way. reminded me of the time someone asked me if i'd like to see phil collins unplugged and i said "great" , not even realising he was on a life support machine. p (sorry for bad joke , i figure i'm allowed one on election day which certainly depresses me. has phil threatened to leave the country if blair wins again? ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:46:26 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Fw: Singer Collins battling MRSA bug Well if that nice Mr Howard wins the chances of Phil getting the MRSA bug will be greatly reduced! Another the Keith (apologising to non-Brits for the obscure election reference and girding the loins for the traditional late night election coverage - 3am should do it tonight I reckon) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of PaulRabjohn@aol.com Sent: 05 May 2005 21:12 To: keith.indoorminer@virgin.net; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Singer Collins battling MRSA bug god keith , you had me worried that my hero PHIL collins was in a bad way. reminded me of the time someone asked me if i'd like to see phil collins unplugged and i said "great" , not even realising he was on a life support machine. p (sorry for bad joke , i figure i'm allowed one on election day which certainly depresses me. has phil threatened to leave the country if blair wins again? ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:55:46 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Singer Collins battling MRSA bug On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 09:46:26PM +0100, Keith Knight wrote: > Well if that nice Mr Howard wins the chances of Phil getting the MRSA > bug will be greatly reduced! I'm covering the election live from 11pm on the radio. http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ - Cambridge is a key LD/Lab marginal... - - A ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:59:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: JAZZ! and not jazz you simply don't get jazz, I don't get country and western, or even heavy metal, but they're still music to some ears...... Ari - --- Jan Noorda wrote: > Do you say JAZZ or do you say no. > > Now you have a point. Don't know why I did feel so > uncomfortable hearing Jazz music. There was always > that feeling that the musicians have to be the > instrument they are playing and they had to be good. > Because when a solo was there, people had to stand > up, and shout for more. Lots of egos. And when you > were allowed to play, you first had to be a higly > degreed first class musician. And isnt that the > point why late 70s a wave called punk or post-punk > took their chance. Its good fun listen to music made > by people who couldnot play the scales. And they had > a message. > > So do we have to listen again at solos for half an > hour. Will there be a new Jaco Pastorius or a > Passport label? And jazz influences on Rolling > Stones? Haven't they became a charactor of > themselves? > > np > Keiji Haino : Black Blues > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:56:24 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Singer Collins battling MRSA bug > god keith , you had me worried that my hero PHIL collins was in a bad way. No, Paul. I think you'll find I said *singer* Collins! > reminded me of the time someone asked me if i'd like to see phil collins > unplugged and i said "great" , not even realising he was on a life support > machine. p LOL!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:05:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Githead USA > Is this going to be released in U.S.A? Ari Yup. The date is still TBC, however. Also, if you order from PE, you get the "Free Git" EP and the title track in particular is well worth having. (The live cuts aren't bad either.) Craig - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://www.wireviews.com News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:16:54 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eardrumbuz wrote....... In a message dated 5/5/05 2:42:22 AM, threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: > >>venturing back into the 'rock' genre (punk, > postpunk, postrock, indie, whatever...), does anyone > know of any artists who have credited jazz artists as > influences or such? << > > -paul c.d. > Aren't we forgetting our history lessons here? out of > soul came the blues came jazz came rock n > roll.........(or something like that)everything > influences everything one way or another. Ari > ari, ari, ari...you snipped the part of my email about windy & carl listening to a headful of alice coltrane before recording an album. i'm just wondering about specific cases like that :o) - -p.c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:34:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Eardrumbuz wrote....... - --- Eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/5/05 2:42:22 AM, > threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: > > > > >>venturing back into the 'rock' genre (punk, > > postpunk, postrock, indie, whatever...), does > anyone > > know of any artists who have credited jazz artists > as > > influences or such? << > > > > -paul c.d. > > Aren't we forgetting our history lessons here? out > of > > soul came the blues came jazz came rock n > > roll.........(or something like that)everything > > influences everything one way or another. Ari > > > ari, ari, ari...you snipped the part of my email > about windy & carl listening > to a headful of alice coltrane before recording an > album. i'm just wondering > about specific cases like that :o) > > -p.c.d. I guess I did Paul, teach me to 'read on' eh what! Ari l.p Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:47:01 -0400 From: "Creaig Dunton" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] nine inch nails ...and if you see the list at http://www.nin.com/access/index.html (towards the bottom of the page) of what's being played before the show, you'll see Trent is sharing his Wire love with the audience. And I agree about _With Teeth_...a much more engaging listen than _The Fragile_, which I also liked. Creaig > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of Jack Alberson > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:28 AM > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: [idealcopy] nine inch nails > > > I've heard a couple of tracks from the new album with teeth and I felt I > noticed a definite Wire influence (the source being this latest rash of > Wire recordings). Also, Trent has mentioned Send in his Q&A section at > least once since I've started reading it. > =20 > For the record, I think the new NIN is a definite improvement over the > very uninteresting The Fragile. > =20 > Jack Alberson | Property Administrator > CB Richard Ellis=20 > 100 Peabody Place, Suite 1200=20 > Memphis, Tennessee 38103 > T 901 526 9729| F 901 526 9892 > jack.alberson@cbre.com =81 > www.cbre.com =20 > > =20 > =20 > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which > had a name of image001.jpg] ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #120 *******************************