From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #119 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, May 5 2005 Volume 08 : Number 119 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Githead Alert ["Garry Phillipson" ] [idealcopy] Re: Mark Stewart "Learning to Cope With Cowardice" [RLynn9@ao] [idealcopy] Re: Mark Stewart book? [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re: Mark & Mafia/Tiger Woods/Prostitutes/Footwear [RLynn9@aol] [idealcopy] Gang of Four ["Cambra, Robert" ] Re: [idealcopy] JAZZ! [rose_dan@colstate.edu] Re: [idealcopy] JAZZ! and not jazz [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] Eardrumbuz wrote....... [Ari ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:29:05 +0100 From: "Garry Phillipson" Subject: [idealcopy] Githead Alert The Githead album is now on sale on www.posteverything.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:14:33 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Mark Stewart "Learning to Cope With Cowardice" In a message dated 5/4/05 3:31:43 AM Central Daylight Time, owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org writes: > Great stuff indeed! I haven't managed to get Cowardice on CD either. > Just like I never came across any Popgroup CDs. I do have almost their > entire catalogue on vinyl, but what good does that do me without > a recordplayer? > > Btw, any Brit has a video recording of "We are all Prostitutes". It was > shown as part of the "Music of the Millenium" series from Channel 4 T.V. in > the UK. Apparently it was chosen by Nick Cave as his song of the millenium. > > Erm... seems Mark Stewart wrote an interesting book as well ;-) > http://tinyurl.com/cqyva > > Bart hello IC Massive! indeed, The Pop Group/Mark Stewart & The Mafia have always been favs of mine as well...and you are in luck Bart, my local used cd store has a copy of "Learning to Cope With Cowardice" in stock as we speak...i looked it up on their website...the place is one block from my house so i could easily pick it up for you when i get off the bus tonight......just say the word m'friend... Roberto, who is still learning to cope with cowardice... np - Porcupine Tree "The Sky Moves Sideways" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:19:46 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Mark Stewart book? In a message dated 5/4/05 3:31:43 AM Central Daylight Time, owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org writes: > Erm... seems Mark Stewart wrote an interesting book as well ;-) > http://tinyurl.com/cqyva > > Bart>>>>>>> hahahaha...HOWEVER, Mark Stewart was to have written a book called "Control Data" (i think) .....i believe there is an excerpt in the wonderful book: "Tape Delay" which, among other things, contains fascinating pieces on Nick Cave, Hafler Trio, Cabaret Voltaire, New Order and others...i wonder is Stewart's book was ever published?...anyone know? Robert "spent a life of disco tunes..and died with nothing done" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:22:43 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Mark & Mafia/Tiger Woods/Prostitutes/Footwear > Ah, yes, the biography of Tiger Woods in which Stewart controversially > suggests that Tiger would be best performing only at night while > berating his colleagues that they are all prostitutes. Can only improve > his tee shots I'd suggest. > > Another the Keith>>>>>>>>> which is kind of funny considering that Tiger IS a prostitute for the NIKE sportswear corporation...lol.... RL p.s. anyone ever see the dig at Tiger on the Dave Chappelle Show (Comedy Central)? it's a pretty funny sketch called the "Racial Draft" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:01:56 -0700 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] Gang of Four Based on the rave reviews of Gang of Four's recent UK shows, I went to see them here last night at the start of their US tour. It's twenty for years later the original line up is amazing. I needed to hear a really good noise and I was not disappointed; "What We All Want" in particular did it for me. God, how many bands copied them badly later? Robert (another) ****************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This E-Mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please do not distribute and delete the original message. Please notify the sender by E-Mail at the address shown. Thank you for your compliance. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:09:33 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] ot: for uk psych furs fans it looks like your prayers may be answered...according to the officially unofficial website burneddowndays.com, they may be touring the uk next month. i'll post more info when it comes! - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:40:05 -0700 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] JAZZ! Keith wrote: "In fact, it's so bad I've kept it on tape just so that one day I can show the grandkids what music was really like in the 70's!!" Keith, I understand, really I do so well. I felt the same way in the 70s. I got into post war jazz about fifteen years ago after a girlfriend gave me the Monk and Mulligan album that was just mentioned and the "Monk's Music" album, and from that an appeciation for Monk, Bepop and jazz grew. But still, I can hardly get out of the 50s-I'm creeping into the early 60s a bit with Coltrane and maybe the late 60s with Miles, but the 70s, forget it. Even the great players still working leave me cold by this point. The zeitgeist was gone. Robert (another) ****************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This E-Mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please do not distribute and delete the original message. Please notify the sender by E-Mail at the address shown. Thank you for your compliance. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:12:37 -0400 From: rose_dan@colstate.edu Subject: Re: [idealcopy] JAZZ! I'm a bit opposite to this. I find the sixties, particularly late Coltrane, Ornette, Ayler, etc. to be lobe twirlers. There's a sound those guys tapped into, a zeitgeist similar to the sounds Wire made, me thinks. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cambra, Robert" Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2005 7:40 pm Subject: [idealcopy] JAZZ! > Keith wrote: "In fact, it's so bad I've kept it on tape just so > that one day I > can show > the grandkids what music was really like in the 70's!!" > > Keith, I understand, really I do so well. I felt the same way in > the 70s. I > got into post war jazz about fifteen years ago after a girlfriend > gave me the > Monk and Mulligan album that was just mentioned and the "Monk's > Music" album, > and from that an appeciation for Monk, Bepop and jazz grew. But > still, I can > hardly get out of the 50s-I'm creeping into the early 60s a bit > with Coltrane > and maybe the late 60s with Miles, but the 70s, forget it. Even > the great > players still working leave me cold by this point. The zeitgeist > was gone. > > Robert (another) > > > ****************************************************** > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This E-Mail is intended only for the use > of the > individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain > information that > is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. > If you have received this communication in error, please do not > distribute and > delete the original message. Please notify the sender by E-Mail at > the address > shown. Thank you for your compliance. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:25:39 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] JAZZ! and not jazz In a message dated 5/4/05 9:19:16 PM, rose_dan@colstate.edu writes: > I'm a bit opposite to this. I find the sixties, particularly late > Coltrane, Ornette, Ayler, etc. to be lobe twirlers. There's a sound > those guys tapped into, a zeitgeist similar to the sounds Wire made, > me thinks. > add dolphy, mingus...but if noise is not what the listener craves, these can all be difficult dishes to start with. ornette coleman live was one of the best non-rock shows i've been to. he stood center stage, with an acoustic trio (guitar, bass, drums) on one side and an electric trio (guitar, bass, drums) on the other. great sonic experience, and a cool visual. venturing back into the 'rock' genre (punk, postpunk, postrock, indie, whatever...), does anyone know of any artists who have credited jazz artists as influences or such? one that comes right to mind are windy & carl. i think it was the consciousness cd that was recorded after they spent quite some time listening to lots of alice coltrane. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] Eardrumbuz wrote....... >>venturing back into the 'rock' genre (punk, postpunk, postrock, indie, whatever...), does anyone know of any artists who have credited jazz artists as influences or such? << - -paul c.d. Aren't we forgetting our history lessons here? out of soul came the blues came jazz came rock n roll.........(or something like that)everything influences everything one way or another. Ari Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #119 *******************************