From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #113 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, April 29 2005 Volume 08 : Number 113 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] enjoying in esse [Bart van Damme ] RE: [idealcopy] Cure reissues ["Creaig Dunton" ] Re: [idealcopy] Oblique Strategies [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: RE:[idealcopy] OT John Cage [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May - Earplugs [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT- Xiu Xiu or The Liars [Aaron Mandel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:06:38 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: [idealcopy] enjoying in esse http://www.hoogerbrugge.com I've sent the link to his website before, but internet animator Han Hoogerbrugge has lots of new stuff online amongst which a little anim called "in esse" (nail 018). Great sounds as well! Enjoy! Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:42:25 -0400 From: "Creaig Dunton" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Cure reissues From what I gather, everything up to _Bloodflowers_ is planned for reissue at some point. I think they're just taking them in chronological order, but from the sounds of it, The Glove's _Blue Sunshine_ is probably the next candidate for reissue, so we may see that, _The Top_ and _Head on the Door_ in the next 6 months. Creaig > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of Adrian Cooke > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:17 AM > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Cure reissues > > > >Has anyone else picked up the reissues of The Cure's Seventeen Seconds, > > >Faith, and Pornography? > > > Not found the resources to buy them yet! Intend to very soon though. Got > the Three Imaginary Boys one and was very impressed with it. > > I always really loved the tracks on the B side of the cassette version > of Concert & Curiosity, so I'm hoping they all end up on these reissues. > Does anybody know how far through the catalogue these reissues are going > to go? > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > Has anyone else picked up the reissues of The Cure's Seventeen Seconds, > Faith, and Pornography? > > I have to give all three of these Deluxe Editions near-perfect ten > scores. > I honestly didn't realize how badly these three albums needed to be > remastered until I heard the reissues this week. Seventeen Seconds > and > Faith, in particular, sound much more spacious and ethereal. > Pornography > sounds more dense and crushing this time around. > > Seventeen Seconds (my all-time favorite album) has a much better sound > on > the short instrumentals that span the album. In the actual songs, > Robert > Smith's vocals sound much more ghost-like. The sparse minimalist > quality > of these tracks is enhanced quite astoundingly. > > As far as bonus tracks go, the Faith reissue has the most > bang-for-your-buck, with the long-overdue remaster of "Carnage Visors", > the > inclusion of "Charlotte Sometimes" and the "Faith" b-side, as well as > several incredible demos. The Pornography reissue has a superb bonus > disc > as well; the demo of "The Hanging Garden" is amazing. Seventeen > Seconds > includes the Cult Hero side project songs and some live > tracks/demos...the > live version of "A Forest" falls a bit short; I've heard much better > live > versions of this song from the same era. Overall, though, I can't > recommend these reissues enough. > > Yeah, there's nothing like hearing vastly improved versions of these > three > albums that I've literally grown up with. > > > Jason > > P.S. Good to see all of you again. I read the digest emails here > daily, > but haven't posted myself in quite awhile; it's been a few months, I > think. > Things are going quite well in my neck of the woods. At the > beginning > of February, I decided to get myself in better physical shape by going > to > the gym six days a week and eating healthier. As of this morning, > I've > lost 65 pounds. I'm still a big guy, but not dangerously overweight > like > I was at the beginning of the year. I can definitely feel the > difference...it'll make standing up at Music Midtown for the Pixies show > > much more bearable, at least. > > Have a good one and I'll try to be active here more often. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:48:50 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Oblique Strategies In a message dated 4/26/05 4:23:19 PM, astrozero@btinternet.com writes: > if I was Eno I wouldn't want > to talk to me either. But I'm wondering if there are any other musicians I > might talk to, who use some kind of system for introducing 'random' elements > into their work. Any suggestions? > wow, wish i could think of someone. john cage was a swell guy, and i bet he woulda talked to you. maybe you could channel him with a ouija board or something :o) does bring up a good question though. what new artists make use of chance operations in their music/lyric writing? i'd love to know who/what you come up with in your search. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:07:44 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: RE:[idealcopy] OT John Cage In a message dated 4/27/05 7:20:24 AM, ray0graph@ameritech.net writes: > ...The owner told me that he > didn't have the address for the David McKenzie he meant to invite, and > pulled my from the phone directory. I told him of my surprise at anyone > knowing my interest in Cage and history. He replied "Well then, come on in. > I am certain Mr. Cage would say it is no accident that you are here!" > what a great story, david! i'm sure cage would've gotten a real kick out of the event! i remember those circle paintings, too. my favorite visual work of his was a small drawing (can't remember if it was pen or pencil) of scribbly lines that seemed to emanate from a horizon. i think it may have been created by holding the drawing tool against the paper and allowing the lines to be created by an outside force (such as sitting on a moving train). a contemporary of his turned me on to that process and i had been trying out different drawing tools, vehicles (trains, buses, planes), and postures around the time i saw his show. none of my drawings were as beautiful as his. he either sat on a train for a very long time or his movements weren't quite so random! ;o) actually, my former professor may be a good source for garry's research. his name is william anastasi. i think he still lives in ny. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:45:04 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May - Earplugs In a message dated 4/27/05 10:04:37 PM, steve@louberts.com writes: > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 09:09:09AM -0700, fernando wrote: > >> http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.asp > > > > These are ace. Had them, loved them, have lost them somewhere. ARGH. > > Didn't work for me. Too uncomfortable. I didn't really find them to be > better sounding than the foam ones. > > I have to wear earplugs at shows or my ears will hurt for days. I wear the > softest foam ones I can find. The amount of attenuation doesn't seem to > matter much. The plugs with the least attenuation still have enough to keep > my ears from hurting. I have thought about getting custom fitted > audiologist plugs, but they are pretty expensive. > my old musician plugs were uncomfortable too. but i also never really liked wearing foam plugs to a concert, cuz they really muffled everything. the ones i'm happiest with are called earfilters (made by cirrus). they stopped making em though, but i think the new ones (called earguards) may have the same 20db reduction, cutting out the harmful frequencies while allowing safe sounds through. i hope so, cuz i'm down to my last pair of earfilters. i've also used the other cirrus product (earplanes) which are marketed for relieving discomfort from pressure on airplanes, but i believe may also be identical to the earfilters. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:04:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT- Xiu Xiu or The Liars On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, P J Kane wrote: > i have never heard The Liars, but Xiu Xiu record excellent albums. i > haven't caught them live, but on record they are GREAT. i would be > curious to read a live review of them. I saw them last tour, and the more cacophonous songs (which is what I incline toward anyway) were fantastic. The songs that are all about Jamie and a guitar were palpably more intense than their recorded versions but felt interminably slow to me. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:05:42 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT John Cage This made me curious Paul and looked it up. Seems your professor has been making some subway drawings of his own very recently. http://www.artnet.com/artwork/424187140/William_Anastasi_Subway_drawing_Le_L ong_Gallery_090305.html More: http://www.artnet.com/artist/1477/William_Anastasi.html (the one with the hand reminds me of Wire's Send cover) Bart > what a great story, david! i'm sure cage would've gotten a real kick out of > the event! i remember those circle paintings, too. my favorite visual work of > his was a small drawing (can't remember if it was pen or pencil) of scribbly > lines that seemed to emanate from a horizon. i think it may have been created > by holding the drawing tool against the paper and allowing the lines to be > created by an outside force (such as sitting on a moving train). a > contemporary of his turned me on to that process and i had been trying out > different drawing tools, vehicles (trains, buses, planes), and postures around > the time i saw his show. none of my drawings were as beautiful as his. he > either sat on a train for a very long time or his movements weren't quite so > random! ;o) > > > actually, my former professor may be a good source for garry's research. his > name is william anastasi. i think he still lives in ny. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #113 *******************************