From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #110 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, April 26 2005 Volume 08 : Number 110 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May [kevin eden ] RE: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May ["Tear Alistair (ST)" ] RE: [Maybe spam] [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] new white stripes single/new bsp [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT- Xiu Xiu or The Liars [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT- Xiu Xiu or The Liars ["P J Kane" ] FW: [idealcopy] For Fall fans...The Perfumed Garden ["Tear Alistair (ST)"] [idealcopy] O.T: Quicktime and Mozilla........ [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May ["Keith A" ] Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May [fernando ] RE: [idealcopy] For Fall fans...The Perfumed Garden ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May [fernando ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:48:00 +0100 (BST) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May Apart from myself and Charles Snider (flying in from USA via Paris) who else on IC list is going to this gig? See you in the bar maybe. kevin eden http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html "dreams that money can buy" Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:54:47 +0100 From: "Tear Alistair (ST)" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May Not me but my mate Nick is > -----Original Message----- > From: kevin eden [mailto:wmouk@yahoo.com] > Sent: 25 April 2005 09:48 > To: Ideal Copy > Subject: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May > > > Apart from myself and Charles Snider (flying in from USA via > Paris) who else on IC list is going to this gig? > > See you in the bar maybe. > > > kevin eden > > http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html > > "dreams that money can buy" > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:18:07 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: [idealcopy] Retrobloke Came across this website site for old records. Bit on the pricey side = but it might be of interest to some listees. http://www.retrogames.co.uk/retrobloke/ Interestingly, Wire aren't listed under Punk/nu wave section, or even = Pop/Rock, but under Prog / psych - along with Camel, Grateful Dead, ELP, = and the dastardly Peter Hammill! ; ) (What was I doing looking under prog / psych in the 1st place? Not = telling!) K. np Billy Mackenzie - auchermatic [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Retrobloke.Com Hard to Find Records and CDs.url] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:23:13 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [Maybe spam] [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May I'll be there... Perhaps I'll wear my A-List long-sleeve so as to, er, not blend in too much! Bruno - -----Original Message----- From: kevin eden [mailto:wmouk@yahoo.com] Sent: 25 April 2005 09:48 To: Ideal Copy Subject: [Maybe spam] [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May Apart from myself and Charles Snider (flying in from USA via Paris) who else on IC list is going to this gig? See you in the bar maybe. kevin eden http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html "dreams that money can buy" Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] indoorminer wrote...... >>(What was I doing looking under prog / psych in the 1st place? Not =telling!)< Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT- Xiu Xiu or The Liars << What is list suggestion, i haven't time for both act Xiu Xiu or The Liars live ? i know list had some rave reviews about The Liars..>> i have never heard The Liars, but Xiu Xiu record excellent albums. i haven't caught them live, but on record they are GREAT. i would be curious to read a live review of them. PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:15:49 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: [idealcopy] For Fall fans...The Perfumed Garden Fall gig download... And Therein/Blood Outta Stone/Time Enough At Last/Free Range/Idiot Joy = Showland/Gentlemans Agreement/Edinburgh Man Mark E Smith - Vocals Craig Scanlon - Guitar Steve Hanley - Bass Dave Bush - Keyboards Simon Wolstencroft - Drums The Fall - Norwich Sound City 1992 This file will expire in seven days. http://www.theperfumedgarden.blogspot.com/ [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of The Perfumed Garden.url] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:27:48 -0500 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: [idealcopy] nine inch nails I've heard a couple of tracks from the new album with teeth and I felt I noticed a definite Wire influence (the source being this latest rash of Wire recordings). Also, Trent has mentioned Send in his Q&A section at least once since I've started reading it. =20 For the record, I think the new NIN is a definite improvement over the very uninteresting The Fragile. =20 Jack Alberson | Property Administrator CB Richard Ellis=20 100 Peabody Place, Suite 1200=20 Memphis, Tennessee 38103 T 901 526 9729| F 901 526 9892 jack.alberson@cbre.com =81 www.cbre.com =20 =20 =20 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:26:33 +0100 From: "Tear Alistair (ST)" Subject: FW: [idealcopy] For Fall fans...The Perfumed Garden Thanks for this Keith - -ordered the Peel sessions today A - -----Original Message----- From: Keith A [mailto:keith.indoorminer@virgin.net] Sent: 25 April 2005 14:16 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] For Fall fans...The Perfumed Garden Fall gig download... And Therein/Blood Outta Stone/Time Enough At Last/Free Range/Idiot Joy = Showland/Gentlemans Agreement/Edinburgh Man Mark E Smith - Vocals Craig Scanlon - Guitar Steve Hanley - Bass Dave Bush - Keyboards Simon Wolstencroft - Drums The Fall - Norwich Sound City 1992 This file will expire in seven days. http://www.theperfumedgarden.blogspot.com/ [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of The Perfumed Garden.url] ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:36:08 -0700 From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May I will be there... I am hoping to bring a Wire t-shirt to wear.. .along with my headphones and mp3 player. cheers! - -fernando On 4/25/05, kevin eden wrote: > Apart from myself and Charles Snider (flying in from USA via Paris) who else on IC list is going to this gig? > > See you in the bar maybe. > > kevin eden > > http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html > > "dreams that money can buy" > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:41:26 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May > I will be there... I am hoping to bring a Wire t-shirt to wear.. > .along with my headphones and mp3 player. Essential, I would have thought. Saves having to listen to VDGG ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:12:36 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May >>> I will be there... I am hoping to bring a Wire t-shirt to wear.. > .along with my headphones and mp3 player. Essential, I would have thought. Saves having to listen to VDGG ; )<< Don't forget to splash on a little "Essence de Goat" Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:18:12 -0700 From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May Actually, that is the intent. I will be wearing my flight-worthy Etymotic ear-canal headphones... though not sure that 23 dB attentuation will be good enough. My wife (and mafia) had to go and get "front row" seats. Having heard more VdGG since I committed to going, really demands such measures. I guess there will be some visual aspects to the show that I may not be able to scape... like the lowering of a Stonehenge model or them coming out of pods (or not all of them). "Essence de Goat" ? Does this involve having to put goat's blood on entrances or some such? I tell you though, I will do a check list on the items that Mark previously listed as essential elements of a prog-rock band ;) (more so the 37/16 time signatures) cheers! - -fernando On 4/25/05, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > > >>> I will be there... I am hoping to bring a Wire t-shirt to wear.. > > .along with my headphones and mp3 player. > > Essential, I would have thought. Saves having to listen to VDGG ; )<< > > Don't forget to splash on a little "Essence de Goat" > > Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:58:18 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] For Fall fans...The Perfumed Garden I hefted the Fall Peel Sessions in HMV this evening. It's a piece of work - looks highly impressive and I found myself wanting it more than I knew but didn't buy it. Yet. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Tear Alistair (ST) - -ordered the Peel sessions today A ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:35:54 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Tim Mistaken for Tori Amos Liker Keith A wrote: >>Your friend sounds like my ideal woman!!! (Tori Amos notwithstanding!) > > > What??????? > > Noooooo!! Don't worry Keith. I haven't suddenly grown cloth-ears nor have I got cateracts overnight. Its all a matter of syntax. I meant notwithstanding the fact that Andrew's mate likes Tori Amos. I prefer Kate Bush or Laura Nyro anyday. Andrew was telling us that his mate is into Autechre at their most spartan and I was pointing out that this more than makes up for her fondness for the dreaded T Amos and her horrible side-saddle piano banging. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:01:46 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] For Fall fans...The Perfumed Garden The excellent Fopp Records are doing it for #25ukp which beats Amazons price. Incredibly reasonable considering you normally pay 40-50ukp for yr average box set of maybe 4 CDs. This has 6, and a nice booklet and since I'm not one of those people who has all the peel sessions on c90s its an absolute treasure trove for me. Skipped straight to first Fall session I ever heard which was circa Frenz Experiment 1987 and its as blistering and sonically exciting as I remember if not more so....and wipes the floor with the LP versions. Its on hearing this monstrous noise, particularly 'Australians In Europe' that something clicked in my 14 year old brain...indie didn't *have* to mean tinny production values and skinny boys in raincoats (this was the days of the Mighty Lemon Drops and the C86 brigade remember) I never looked back. Also today bought the Stereolab box-set as well which collects EP tracks and some unreleased/rare stuff (a few surprises even for someone who thought he'd pretty much heard their entire catalogue) plus a DVD for #12ukp. Should keep me busy for a wee while...... Keith Knight wrote: > I hefted the Fall Peel Sessions in HMV this evening. It's a piece of > work - looks highly impressive and I found myself wanting it more than I > knew but didn't buy it. Yet. > > Another the Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Tear Alistair (ST) > > > -ordered the Peel sessions today > > A ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:54:20 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May I will of course. Came home tonight (from a self-chosen cinema double-bill of Tarnation and Downfall, so am looking for a bit of light relief before slumber) to find the new VdGG album waiting for me, the first time I've been able to experience that for 27 years. God, that feels good. Looking forward to playing it tomorrow. On the whole, reviews have been respectful if puzzled (most reviewers not having a clue how to react when confronted with the Noise). Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of kevin eden Sent: 25 April 2005 09:48 To: Ideal Copy Subject: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May Apart from myself and Charles Snider (flying in from USA via Paris) who else on IC list is going to this gig? See you in the bar maybe. kevin eden http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html "dreams that money can buy" Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:54:38 -0700 From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May I see this on amazon.uk, "The studio sessions provided 16 new Van der Graaf works spread out over two CDs. One CD consists of rehearsed songs/structured pieces , the second CD features an hour's worth of improvisations." that sounds cool... most reunions these days have loads of gigs, followed (may be) by new album. Kudos to them. However, the note about the second CD's "hour's worth of improvisations" sounds troubling ;) cheers! - -fernando np - the playlist for my funeral... you know that these days would force us to do this. On 4/25/05, Keith Knight wrote: > I will of course. Came home tonight (from a self-chosen cinema > double-bill of Tarnation and Downfall, so am looking for a bit of light > relief before slumber) to find the new VdGG album waiting for me, the > first time I've been able to experience that for 27 years. God, that > feels good. Looking forward to playing it tomorrow. On the whole, > reviews have been respectful if puzzled (most reviewers not having a > clue how to react when confronted with the Noise). > > Another the Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of kevin eden > Sent: 25 April 2005 09:48 > To: Ideal Copy > Subject: [idealcopy] VDGG 6th May > > Apart from myself and Charles Snider (flying in from USA via Paris) who > else on IC list is going to this gig? > > See you in the bar maybe. > > kevin eden > > http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html > > "dreams that money can buy" > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #110 *******************************