From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #94 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, April 9 2005 Volume 08 : Number 094 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Roedelius ["Tear Alistair (ST)" Subject: [idealcopy] Roedelius There's an interview in the Guardian today with Hans-Joachim Roedelius which will interest some of you here's the link http://tinyurl.com/3olfg here's an excerpt A Roedelius estimates he has recorded, either alone or in collaboration, around 80 albums since 1970. His latest, under the name Lunz, is a collection of limpid instrumentals written with American keyboardist Tim Story. It comes with a disc of radical remixes by the likes of Elbow, Lloyd Cole, Ulrich Schnauss and Adem, which nods to the way Roedelius's sonic ingenuity and love of repetition have influenced ambient, dance music and forward-thinking rock bands. "There's an honesty about his music," says Adem over the phone. "It's heartfelt. There's depth to it. It's more than just pretty music." ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. 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Your CD will be sent out in protective packaging - happy bidding! = http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=3D1&item=3D4717717910&= ssPageName=3DSTRK:MESE:IT [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of eBay item 4717717910 (Ends 14-Apr-05 150117 BST) - Genesis - We Can't Dance (CD) 1p 'cos it's rubbish!.url] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:17:27 +0100 From: "Keith A" Subject: [idealcopy] "As Radiohead are to Britpop, so Wire were to punk" (Mojo Punk Special) Finally got round to getting the Mojo 'Punk' special yesterday. For those who haven't got it yet, there's an intro from the good Captain, lots of looking back (and old photo's), 'where are they now?' and - as always - some lists! These consist of a Top 45 45's (as chosen by Jon Savage) and a Top 77 albums - perhaps a top 77 singles and 33 albums would be a better way round for a movement that was, after all, so single based. The singles include Quickstep by the Adverts which if memory serves me right was the b-side of One Chord Wonders, rather than the follow-up Mojo reckons it to be, and two by the lads - I Am The Fly and A Question of Degree. They're worth reading in full, so here goes... I Am The Fly... "Having set out there stall with the deliberate, ultra minimalist Pink Flag, Wire further blurred the line between punk and art rock with this startlingly original 45. As if a riposte to the rash of idendikit punk then clogging up the racks, IATF took deadpan delivery and humdrum rhythms into a heady, almost psychedelic space. The result was unashamedly experimental, yet instantly unforgettable, thanks to the extraordinary, insect-mimicking guitar line to the simplistic chorus." Degree... "As Radiohead are to Britpop, so Wire were to punk. On EMI's prog label, they morphed from punks to visionaries. Coming between their LP's Chairs Missing and its successor, 154, this 45 summed up their transformation: starting with a simple beat and rhythm, it then crams too many syllables into each line and moves through dreamy sequences with the hand of an experienced producer apparent. Your big brother in his afghan might like it." As for the albums, PF - "angular north London quartet's lean, art punk opus" - - is, of course, present. "If brevity is the is the soul of wit, then Wire's debut is punk at it's most perspicacious - delivering 21 tracks in 35 pin-sharp minutes. Erring towards both minimal austerity and miniaturised pop perfection, PF 's release attracted equal parts veneration and bemusement ("more Pink Floyd than Pink Flag", sceptics cavilled). In fact, it's detached, compressed atmospheres, with singer CN's surreal lyrical bent to the fore, represents a uniquely cerebral response to punks year zero. Indeed, Watford Art School alumni Newman, guitarist BG, bassist GL and drummer RG were punk only by default. Already in their mid-20's (veterans by new wave standards), Wire's clipped scholarly take on three-chord rock seemed destines to stand apart. Not for them the nihilist sloganeering, reggae affectations, or recycled Johnny Thunder riffs that elsewhere activated punks new broom. Instead, Wire proffered arcing, oblique rock songs like Feeling Called Love and Strange (later covered by REM) that sounded like hits from a parallel world ruled by Brian Eno. The ominous, halting Three Girl Rhumba (notoriously plagiarised by Elastica), Lowdown's grinding, entropic pop and the lovely, almost Kinksy Fragile, evinced a a breadth and rigour unmatched by any tight trousered contemporary. Post punk starts here". All this and a Green Day article!! K. np Julian Cope - safesurfer (cue wailing gtrs!!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:25:37 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] "As Radiohead are to Britpop, so Wire were to punk" (Mojo Punk Special) Thanks a lot Keith... great read! Bart > Finally got round to getting the Mojo 'Punk' special yesterday. For those who > haven't got it yet, there's an intro from the good Captain, lots of looking > back (and old photo's), 'where are they now?' and - as always - some lists! > > These consist of a Top 45 45's (as chosen by Jon Savage) and a Top 77 albums - > perhaps a top 77 singles and 33 albums would be a better way round for a > movement that was, after all, so single based. > > The singles include Quickstep by the Adverts which if memory serves me right > was the b-side of One Chord Wonders, rather than the follow-up Mojo reckons it > to be, and two by the lads - I Am The Fly and A Question of Degree. They're > worth reading in full, so here goes... > > I Am The Fly... > "Having set out there stall with the deliberate, ultra minimalist Pink Flag, > Wire further blurred the line between punk and art rock with this startlingly > original 45. As if a riposte to the rash of idendikit punk then clogging up > the racks, IATF took deadpan delivery and humdrum rhythms into a heady, almost > psychedelic space. The result was unashamedly experimental, yet instantly > unforgettable, thanks to the extraordinary, insect-mimicking guitar line to > the simplistic chorus." > > Degree... > "As Radiohead are to Britpop, so Wire were to punk. On EMI's prog label, they > morphed from punks to visionaries. Coming between their LP's Chairs Missing > and its successor, 154, this 45 summed up their transformation: starting with > a simple beat and rhythm, it then crams too many syllables into each line and > moves through dreamy sequences with the hand of an experienced producer > apparent. Your big brother in his afghan might like it." > > > As for the albums, PF - "angular north London quartet's lean, art punk opus" > - is, of course, present. > "If brevity is the is the soul of wit, then Wire's debut is punk at it's most > perspicacious - delivering 21 tracks in 35 pin-sharp minutes. Erring towards > both minimal austerity and miniaturised pop perfection, PF 's release > attracted equal parts veneration and bemusement ("more Pink Floyd than Pink > Flag", sceptics cavilled). In fact, it's detached, compressed atmospheres, > with singer CN's surreal lyrical bent to the fore, represents a uniquely > cerebral response to punks year zero. Indeed, Watford Art School alumni > Newman, guitarist BG, bassist GL and drummer RG were punk only by default. > Already in their mid-20's (veterans by new wave standards), Wire's clipped > scholarly take on three-chord rock seemed destines to stand apart. Not for > them the nihilist sloganeering, reggae affectations, or recycled Johnny > Thunder riffs that elsewhere activated punks new broom. Instead, Wire > proffered arcing, oblique rock songs like Feeling Called Love and Strange > (later covered by REM) that sounded like hits from a parallel world ruled by > Brian Eno. The ominous, halting Three Girl Rhumba (notoriously plagiarised by > Elastica), Lowdown's grinding, entropic pop and the lovely, almost Kinksy > Fragile, evinced a a breadth and rigour unmatched by any tight trousered > contemporary. Post punk starts here". > > All this and a Green Day article!! > > K. > > np Julian Cope - safesurfer (cue wailing gtrs!!) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #94 ******************************