From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #83 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, March 29 2005 Volume 08 : Number 083 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] O.T: P.Furs related........... [Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: P.Furs related........... click on portfolio..........(Richard Butler's Art ) http://www.vanbruntgallery.com/butler.html Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:09:48 +0200 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: [idealcopy] OT - Cluster Fw: My Dinner with Dieter and Achim Cluster are often mentioned on this list, and i know there are many fans here so i fw-ed this one from Eno list Subject: My Dinner with Dieter and Achim > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Nervenet digest > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > Roedelius stated categorically that he & Mobius never performed live with > Eno at any time. > > Funny, I had dinner with Cluster once in the early mid 1990s and they told > me that the first time, or one of the first times they met Eno was at a > concert of theirs and that Eno came and joined them on stage. This led to > their studio collaborations and his coming back to play at their studio a > second time a while later. Some material from this concert later showed up > on Tracks and Traces, if I recall correctly. From what I recall they > basically worked in the studio twice, some months or more apart, but did > share a stage at least one night for some period of show. All this may have > no relevance to the boot that was mentioned, but I am sure they said they > did play live on a stage together. > > Roedelius did seem a bit annoyed I was asking much about Eno. But the reason > they accepted my invitation to buy them dinner in San Francisco was because > I wanted to interview them for the EnoWeb site and they knew this. I was a > little surprised when the tour manager and Tommy Grenas also joined us for a > nice Thai meal in San Francisco at my expense, but it was worth the cost and > quite enjoyable. Grenas did much of the talking a lot of the night but was > actually quite interesting and pleasant to meet too. He was loaning them > equipment for the tour. Later I found that some of his synths had belonged > to Damon Edge of Chrome, who I had interviewed in 1981, and Tommy had played > with Nik Turner on some shows I'd seen a year or two earlier. > > I was respectful enough to ask Cluster a lot about folks other than Eno > including questions about working with Conny Plank, Conrad Schnitzler and > Michael Rother that evoked a lot more interest and passion than the > questions about Brian. I had the impression they resented a little that they > are seen by some as a tangent from Eno and surprised that interest on this > brief window of their long career still merits some attention in the eyes of > their fans. > > They've done a lot of music and very little of it with Eno, and Sky seems to > have exploited this with many recompliations that toss a few Eno > collaborations in so they can put Eno's name on the cover. The > collaborations annoy me because After The Heat especially strikes me as > having a structure and flow that is shameful to break up and take pieces > from out of context of the whole work. > > Unfortunately the mini tape deck I used stopped and started randomly > throughout the periods I had it on, much of the interesting stuff was said > when it was off, and the restaurant had so much ambient noise, background > music and plates clanking everywhere that the recording was pretty useless > and I never transcribed it. > > I came away with an impression of Moebius as being the prankster with the > glowing charm of an mischevious child. Roedelius seemed to glow with age, > serenity and spirituality like a buddhist monk or the dalai lama. > > It was a great meal though and memorable meeting and spending a few hours > with them, even if I paid for the pleasure. If you want to meet interesting > musicians touring on low budgets I recommend offering to feed them. It makes > for a much more natural and relaxed conversational setting with less time > constraints. > > - malcolm > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > End of Nervenet digest > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > --^---------------------------------------------------------------- > This email was sent to: baltazar@panet.co.yu > > EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2iZGE.boeKib.YmFsdGF6 > Or send an email to: nervenet-unsubscribe@topica.com > > For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: > http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER > --^---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #83 ******************************