From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #75 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, March 20 2005 Volume 08 : Number 075 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Wire Amaztype [Mark McQuitty ] RE: [idealcopy] Wire Amaztype ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] K.A wrote. ["Keith A" ] Re: [Maybe spam] [idealcopy] Re: NO NO NO! (Was Comebacks) [PaulRabjohn@a] [idealcopy] Fw: Michael Jacksons Fave Things ["Keith A" Subject: [idealcopy] Wire Amaztype Click this link... http://amaztype.tha.jp/US/Music/Artist?q=WIRE Hypnotic. Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:53:05 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire Amaztype Yes, fascinating. Nice way to see all those covers in one go - shame about the 'non' Wire discs though! >>>Click this link... http://amaztype.tha.jp/US/Music/Artist?q=WIRE Hypnotic. Mark<<< ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:04:14 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] re Three Years!! On the last Roxy tour the Great Paul Thompson was effectively a jobbing drummer - my understanding is that Ferry didn't even invite him back before pressure made him do so. My friend Lee (who some of you have met from Wire gigs and who is saxophonist in a Roxy tribute band) inhabits a Roxy equivalent to this list and by all accounts they all hate Ferry there - for ego reasons predating his son's rise to notoriety. But of course you can't have Roxy without him. It must be strange despising the lead singer and songwriter of your favourite band. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: Keith A [mailto:keith.indoorminer@virgin.net] Sent: 18 March 2005 22:14 To: Keith Knight; 'Ideal Copy' Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re Three Years!! > A 25 year wait is about to come to an end - Roxy Music are in the studio > working on new material. But will it be For Your Pleasure or Avalon? > I'm not holding my breath. Well the drummer on the tour dates was Paul Thompson, so that bodes well, though I have to say I liked Avalon anyway. But in a different kind of way. Not sure I'll get it though. His public support of that horrible little twat of a son at the Q awards could well lead to a Polly Harvey-like boycott in the Astbury camp. I'm not sure I want my pennies to finance BF's sons disgusting hobby, seeing as I'd rather like to chase that pathetic little toff around the countryside and let the dogs rip him apart. On the other hand, I'm a big Roxy fan... Decisions, decisions... ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:10:13 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Re: NO NO NO! (Was Comebacks) :: Not so. DM around that time employed three musicians to :: manually play synths. And that was what Kraftwerk was doing :: in 1975. What NO did was integrate the gtr/bass/drums stuff and :: the electronics in a totally original way, while constantly :: upgrading their gear - and then performing it live. You could probably argue that Gary Numan was doing this in the commercial side before New Order (combining live instruments and synths); you can definitely say OMD was doing thisI remember seeing videos of live gigs from circa 1981, with synths, pre-programmed tapes, live drums, electronic drums and live bass guitar. Craig - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://www.wireviews.com News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:25:28 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [Maybe spam] [idealcopy] Re: NO NO NO! (Was Comebacks) >>>You could probably argue that Gary Numan was doing this in the commercial side before New Order<<<< And it's pretty much a fluke that GN was 'commercial' - the original Ultravox and John Foxx had a single or two out (like Foxx's Burning Car) that were at least as catchy as GN's stuff... ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:52:26 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] K.A wrote. >>Not sure I'll get it though. His public support of that horrible little twat of a son at the Q awards could well lead to a Polly Harvey-like boycott in the Astbury camp. << So why are you boycotting Polly J Keith? she is,without doubt, my favorite artist at the moment (thanx to Graeme) >>I'm not sure I want my pennies to finance BF's sons disgusting hobby, seeing as I'd rather like to chase that pathetic little toff around the countryside and let the dogs rip him apart.<< Haven't heard anything,what did he do? >>On the other hand, I'm a big Roxy fan... Decisions, decisions... ; )<< Me too,despite Ferry,who's music I 'quite' like,even his solo stuff..Ari Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:41:35 -0000 From: "Keith A" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] K.A wrote. > So why are you boycotting Polly J Keith? Cos of some pro-hunting remarks she made a few years ago! I like the 'Polly J Keith' moniker though!! > >>I'm not sure I want my pennies to finance BF's sons > disgusting hobby, seeing as I'd rather like to chase > that pathetic little toff around the countryside and > let the dogs rip him apart.<< > Haven't heard anything,what did he do? BF's son, whose name escapes me, is very big on the hunting scene, and led the group of pro-hunters that stormed the house of commons a while back, whilst wearing a t-shirt that said something like "FCUK the Hunting Bill". He wore the top when answering his bail, which allegedly led FCUK to announce that they'd sue him if he wore in the public eye again as they didn't want to be associated with his sentiments. Good on them I say (for once). BF made a 'proud father' type remark when recieving his Q Award. Some people jeered. Apparently some others cheered, not knowing who his son was!! > > >>On the other hand, I'm a big Roxy fan... > > Decisions, decisions... ; )<< > Me too,despite Ferry,who's music I 'quite' like,even > his solo stuff..Ari I've always liked him too - though I could have done without Mark Knoflers guitar wankery on the last album - and had no idea that he was the Mike Love of Roxy ; ) K. np V/A - Beyond Punk (Mojo cd). Ah...Kidney Bingos has just started.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:40:07 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [Maybe spam] [idealcopy] Re: NO NO NO! (Was Comebacks) In a message dated 19/03/2005 15:30:10 GMT Standard Time, B.Clements@bepp.co.uk writes: And it's pretty much a fluke that GN was 'commercial' - the original Ultravox and John Foxx had a single or two out (like Foxx's Burning Car) that were at least as catchy as GN's stuff... //// i think that early foxx solo stuff was very much aimed at numan fans , those early singles were almost parody pieces. in fact i've always thought of foxx as a bit of a chancer but recently i got sent a john foxx/louis gordon album that i actually really liked (thanks howard). maybe he's finally started being himself? p ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:23:27 -0000 From: "Keith A" Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: Michael Jacksons Fave Things Subject: Michael Jacksons Fave Things Topical! http://i.euniverse.com/funpages/cms_content/5367/mjs_fave_things01.swf [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of mjs_fave_things01.url] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:00:45 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re Three Years!! >A 25 year wait is about to come to an end - Roxy Music are in the studio > working on new material. But will it be For Your Pleasure or Avalon? > I'm not holding my breath. > I'm actually sort of interested by this. But.... only if Brian Eno's involved. Brian and Bryan (Ferry) have been doing the odd tracks together on Bryan's last couple of albums, and they've been kinda cool. In an Avalon-ish way, true, but I've still enjoyed them. I suppose it's best not to get too excited though. (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:11:31 -0600 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: [Idealcopy] NO NO NO I witness two NO shows in the 80s - one in Detroit and one in Chicago. Both were atrocious exhibitions slop and total lack of control of the technology rivaled only by Ashlee Simpson. NO recordings generally struck me as fortunate accidents. I have never considered "The Beach" a particularly good record , but the Linn hand claps defined a time, didn't they. As for the rest, perhaps Ecstasy is the only explanation for anyone would want to dance. And Barney's lyrics often sounded like they rolled out his mouth the way I used to roll out of bed, fuzzy and half in the bag. As for Kraftwerk, the Computerworld tour was an epiphany of how well technology and humanism can mesh in music. Much of the percussion was played live, but as a choice, not a lack of grasp. My recollection is that Peter Gabriel (as Real World) owned a Fairchild which Kate Bush and other used. The Fairchild was not Kraftwork's bete noire, that distinction belongs to the Synclavier. And you can't really blame technology for Ralf and Florian's getting stuck. Even when they started working with the easier newer stuff they repeated themselves. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:11:31 -0600 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: [Idealcopy] NO NO NO I witness two NO shows in the 80s - one in Detroit and one in Chicago. Both were atrocious exhibitions slop and total lack of control of the technology rivaled only by Ashlee Simpson. NO recordings generally struck me as fortunate accidents. I have never considered "The Beach" a particularly good record , but the Linn hand claps defined a time, didn't they. As for the rest, perhaps Ecstasy is the only explanation for anyone would want to dance. And Barney's lyrics often sounded like they rolled out his mouth the way I used to roll out of bed, fuzzy and half in the bag. As for Kraftwerk, the Computerworld tour was an epiphany of how well technology and humanism can mesh in music. Much of the percussion was played live, but as a choice, not a lack of grasp. My recollection is that Peter Gabriel (as Real World) owned a Fairchild which Kate Bush and other used. The Fairchild was not Kraftwork's bete noire, that distinction belongs to the Synclavier. And you can't really blame technology for Ralf and Florian's getting stuck. Even when they started working with the easier newer stuff they repeated themselves. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #75 ******************************