From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #49 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, February 22 2005 Volume 08 : Number 049 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] O.T: for the techies amongst us........... [Ari ] RE: [idealcopy] O.T: Who's playing where I live............. ["Andrew Lum] Re: [idealcopy] Trouser Press on Wire as of late ["Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: for the techies amongst us........... I have the 'complete' DVD codes ebook,which tells you the cosdes/how to enter them,to 'change' the region on your dvd players.If anyone would like a copy drop me a line off-list and I'll forward it to you. (dial-up will take a while) Ari __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:42:12 -0500 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] aberdeen / edinburgh.... a thought just hit me. looking at the box for "scottish play" it very much presents it as just the glasgow gig. which is nice , as i saw that one. but at the time wasn't all the talk of using film from all the performances , including 2 sets at aberdeen to allow close ups to be filmed? not had time to sit and watch it in great detail yet , but anyone know whether all the other footage is in there somewhere or get shelved en route? p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:37:38 EST From: Circlejerk04@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] (no subject) what are some good scottish bands that I should know about? I'm planning a trip there next spring and i want to start studying. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:09:19 -0800 (PST) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Smarties set to lose their tube Bastards indeed. Why? Can't say I've seen that many smarties rolling round the feet of harrassed mothers. Sounds like someone desperately trying to justify their salary with some "outside the box thinking, yah", or should that be "outside the tube"......just trying to save .002p per box on the plastic lid, I guess. I'm going to send them a suitable comment, spelled out in the letters on the underside of the lids. Now then, I've got T,A,S, and W. Just need another T............... Instead of messing with the box, they could try getting their distribution of the white choc Smarty variant sorted. They're rarer than hen's teeth in this neck of the woods...... I recall being real pissed off when they re-branded "Peanut Treets" as "M & M's" and changed the formulation of the chocolate (according to my tastebuds anyhow) from real chocolate to a suspicously synthetic and inferior gunk. Wish they wouldn't meddle........... MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: Bastards!! _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4276553.stm_ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4276553.stm) Indeed. Love the last comment - "the darkest moment in our nation's history". Personally I smell a "salad cream" scam. Heinz announced Salad Cream was being withdrawn - the resulting publicity drew attention to a product that had been overlooked. Marketing departments, dontcha just love 'em. More cocaine? Mark ;-) Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:18:10 -0800 (PST) From: Derek White Subject: [idealcopy] OT: For guitar FX fans only..a flanger to top the 'Mistress!! Follow this, and check out the "Paradox TZF" http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/ A friend of mine hove up to mine over the weekend, and brought one of these beasties with him. I have been singing the praises of my ancient, 1977 vintage battery model Electro-Harmonix "Electric Mistress" for yonks, maintaining that despite it's vintage, I'd never heard a flanger to beat it, both in terms of versatility, and richness of sound. Until now that is. This "Paradox TZF" is AMAZING !! Intro to Hendrix's "House burning down"? [done in the studio with 2 tape machines by hand, and up to now, not electronically simulated]:- NO PROBLEM !! They ain't cheap, and being hand-built, there's a waiting list. And if you're not in the U.S. you'd have to import it yourself, but hey believe me, it'd be worth it.......... Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:40:35 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: For guitar FX fans only..a flanger to top the 'Mistress!! They ain't cheap, and being hand-built, there's a waiting list. And if you're not in the U.S. you'd have to import it yourself, but hey believe me, it'd be worth it.......... $369... Bloody hell, I'll stick with the Mistress! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:19:00 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: For guitar FX fans only..a flanger to top the 'Mistress!! On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 11:40:35AM -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > $369... > > Bloody hell, I'll stick with the Mistress! I've moved to a pretty-much-entirely computer based setup; Reason 2.5 and Tracktion as my DAW, with VST plugins if I need 'em. My guitar multi-FX is mostly acting as a DI box. Steve Albini would throw a fit, but given that I'm mostly making electronic music, who cares? No doubt hardware's nicer, but money swears in this case. - - Andrew (listening to the excellent Broken Family Band; witty, dark, funny alt-country from Cambridge, UK recorded in Magoo's studio...) - -- Dept of Earth Sciences, Univ. Cambridge ::: http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk ::: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ Random Walk, 11pm Mondays, CUR1350 ::: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:17:36 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: RAMONES NAME GENERATOR Subject: RAMONES NAME GENERATOR http://www.flapjackempire.com/ramones/=20 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of RAMONES NAME GENERATOR.url] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:43:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: NYTIMES: Hunter S. Thompson, 67, Author, Commits Suicide - --- > > Hunter S. Thompson, 67, Author, Commits Suicide > By MICHELLE O'DONNELL > > Hunter S. Thompson, the maverick journalist and > author whose savage chronicling of the underbelly of > American life and politics embodied a new kind of > nonfiction writing he called "gonzo journalism," > died yesterday in Colorado. Tricia Louthis, of the > Pitkin County Sheriff's Office, said Mr. Thompson > had died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at his > home in Woody Creek, Colo., yesterday afternoon. He > was 67. > > Mr. Thompson, a magazine and newspaper writer who > also wrote almost a dozen books, was perhaps best > known for his book, "Fear and Loathing in Las > Vegas," which became a Hollywood movie in 1998. But > he was better known for his hard-driving lifestyle > and acerbic eye for truth which he used in the style > of first-person reporting that came to be known as > "gonzo" in the 1960's, where the usually-anonymous > reporter becomes a central character in the story, a > conduit of subjectivity. > > "Nobody really knows what it means, but it sounds > like an epithet," he said in an interview that, for > him, journalism "can be an effective political > tool." > > Hunter Stockton Thompson was born in Louisville, Ky, > on July 18, 1937, the son of an insurance agent. He > was educated in the public school system and joined > the United States Air Force after high school. > There, he was introduced to journalism, covering > sports for an Air Force newspaper at Eglin Air Force > Base in Florida. He was honorably discharged in 1958 > and then worked a series of jobs writing for > small-town newspapers. > > It was in the heat of deadline that gonzo journalism > was born while he was writing a story about the > Kentucky Derby for Scanlan's magazine, he recounted > years later in an interview in Playboy magazine. > > "I'd blown my mind, couldn't work," he told Playboy. > "So finally I just started jerking pages out of my > notebook and numbering them and sending them to the > printer. I was sure it was the last article I was > ever going to do for anybody." > > Instead, he said, the story drew raves and he was > inundated with letters and phone calls from people > calling it "a breakthrough in journalism," an > experience he likened to "falling down an elevator > shaft and landing in a pool of mermaids." > > He went on to become a counter cultural hero with > books and articles that skewered America's > hypocrisy. > > "He wrote to provoke, shock, protest and annoy," > Timothy Crouse wrote in his book "The Boys on the > Bus," about the 1972 presidential campaign. > > Mr. Thompson's pioneering first-person, at times > over-the-top, writing style influenced a generation > of writers. > > As a young man, he was heavily influenced by Jack > Kerouac and wholeheartedly followed Kerouac's > approach in which the writer revels in his struggles > with writing. > > Among his books were "Hell's Angels," "Fear and > Loathing in Las Vegas," "Fear and Loathing on the > Campiagn Trail '72," "The Great Shark Hunt," > "Generation of Swine" and "Songs for the Doomed." > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:42:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] Hunter s thompson is dead................... he blew his mind out with a gun........ http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/science/nature/4278005.stm Maybe this made him do it. Ari Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:45:49 -0500 From: Joren Lindholm Subject: [idealcopy] Trouser Press on Wire as of late I am a silent subscriber mostly, but was looking through the Wire web-ring last night and came across the updated review on Wire/Wir/Wire solo at trouserpress.com. I like Trouser Press. However, I'm having a reaction, and here is as good a listening for it as any place. They apparently asked a second writer to grapple with the reviews for everything Wire through 2003 (something like 6-7 pages), and the old reviews covering Pink Flag to Manscape were replaced with even more bias than before (see below). Again this dismissive attitude rears its head, the kind that I've personally found in people who only listen to 10 seconds of something before they make their stand over it. Fans (of Wire or any) may be possessed, but they have a far greater imagination than some who are appointed as critics for what they know. I'll go even further, to listen to and find the gold in Pink Flag, Bell is a Cup, and Manscape - for example - is impossible without an active imagination. Wire stayed the dance-pop course with diminishing results on A Bell Is a Cup and It's Beginning to and Back Again (aka IBTABA); their respective MTV-friendly singles, "Kidney Bingos" and "Eardrum Buzz," are among the few standout tracks. The band was starting to be more concerned with the artistic process than the finished results: IBTABA was an attempt to create "new" tracks by radically reworking digital live recordings from Chicago and Portugal. The studio trickery was more inspired than the music, and things soon got even worse. Convinced that the "beat combo" of two guitars, bass and drums had run its course, the band marginalized Gotobed, one of rock's great minimalist drummers, replacing him with a machine on the soulless Manscape (Wire's absolute nadir) and The Drill, an entire nine-track album of "Drill" variations, none of which betters the original. Where Wire's music once abraded like sand in your joints, its electro-fizzle had the impact of slapping on some aftershave; lyrics that were once rewardingly abstract had grown simply incomprehensible. Gotobed understandably quit, effectively ending Wire Mark II. The fan-selected and heavily annotated Wire 1985-1990: The A List compiles the best of Wire's second go-round; it's nowhere near as essential as the original three studio albums, but it's better than any of the proper second-generation albums. The era also produced numerous EPs featuring a song or two from each album along with live tracks or remixes; none is worth owning. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:18:53 +0000 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Trouser Press on Wire as of late Joren Lindholm wrote: > I am a silent subscriber mostly, but was looking through the Wire > web-ring last night and came across the updated review on Wire/Wir/Wire > solo at trouserpress.com. I like Trouser Press. However, I'm having a > reaction, and here is as good a listening for it as any place. They > apparently asked a second writer to grapple with the reviews for > everything Wire through 2003 (something like 6-7 pages), and the old > reviews covering Pink Flag to Manscape were replaced with even more > bias than before (see below). Again this dismissive attitude rears its > head, the kind that I've personally found in people who only listen to > 10 seconds of something before they make their stand over it. Fans (of > Wire or any) may be possessed, but they have a far greater imagination > than some who are appointed as critics for what they know. I'll go even > further, to listen to and find the gold in Pink Flag, Bell is a Cup, > and Manscape - for example - is impossible without an active > imagination. When you hit the front page you see Ramones, Elvis Costello, Nirvana and the appalling M*by which hardly screams 'cutting edge' to me. Their summing up of Wire's 2nd phase makes sense in that respect. The article seems fairly representative of the Music Press consensus on Wire. Those who do not regard M*by as a beacon of 'Alternative Music' should have the sense to dig deeper than this website before they make their minds up. To be fair though, If someone enjoys the first 3 LPs they might at least read this and check out The A-List. If they don't like that, its fair to say they may as well stop right there! n.p Harmonia - 'Deluxe' (Re-issue for some...new CD for me) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:07:43 +0000 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: For guitar FX fans only..a flanger to top the 'Mistress!! Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 11:40:35AM -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > >>$369... >> >>Bloody hell, I'll stick with the Mistress! > > > I've moved to a pretty-much-entirely computer based setup; > Reason 2.5 and Tracktion as my DAW, with VST plugins if I need 'em. > My guitar multi-FX is mostly acting as a DI box. > > Steve Albini would throw a fit, but given that I'm mostly making > electronic music, who cares? No doubt hardware's nicer, but money > swears in this case. You and me both Andrew. I'll stick with my cheapo multi-Fx and the computer, seeing as i'm not in a Hendrix covers band this will do for me! For $369 I would expect Jimi Hendrix to come back from the dead and play guitar parts, personally, at my request. He'd probably want to have a go on my PC and do some really mad stuff with the VST plugins anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:03:09 +0800 From: First Last Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Smarties set to lose their tube Agreed. & Marathon to Snickers i ask ya?! 'Club' biscuit chocolate layer is not as thick around the edges as it was in earlier years. Tim NP: Kraftwerk - Miami 11.04 2Dvd On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:09:19 -0800 (PST), Derek White wrote: > Bastards indeed. Why? Can't say I've seen that many smarties rolling round the feet of harrassed mothers. Sounds like someone desperately trying to justify their salary with some "outside the box thinking, yah", or should that be "outside the tube"......just trying to save .002p per box on the plastic lid, I guess. > > I'm going to send them a suitable comment, spelled out in the letters on the underside of the lids. Now then, I've got T,A,S, and W. Just need another T............... > > Instead of messing with the box, they could try getting their distribution of the white choc Smarty variant sorted. They're rarer than hen's teeth in this neck of the woods...... > > I recall being real pissed off when they re-branded "Peanut Treets" as "M & M's" and changed the formulation of the chocolate (according to my tastebuds anyhow) from real chocolate to a suspicously synthetic and inferior gunk. > > Wish they wouldn't meddle........... > > MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > Bastards!! > > _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4276553.stm_ > (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4276553.stm) > > Indeed. Love the last comment - "the darkest moment in our nation's history". > > Personally I smell a "salad cream" scam. Heinz announced Salad Cream was > being withdrawn - the resulting publicity drew attention to a product that had > been overlooked. > > Marketing departments, dontcha just love 'em. More cocaine? > > Mark ;-) > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:14:27 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Scottish bands Well, you could start here - http://www.list.co.uk/fiftybandsmain.html - a list of the 50 best Scottish bands of all time (allegedly). The rule of thumb as far as I'm concerned is that until recently there had been virtually no good Scottish bands - I mean, Orange Juice, The Proclaimers, Big Country, Del Amitri, Texas, Wet Wet Wet (all of whom are on the list) - bar The Blue Nile. And I'm avoiding mention of JAMC here whom I never cared for. Then something happened spurred by Belle and Sebastian, Chemikal Underground records and some good venues and suddenly good Scottish bands are everywhere - Arab Strap, The Delgados, Franz Ferdinand, Alasdair Roberts, James Yorkston, King Creosote (and virtually everyone on Fence Records)... Not that you can necessarily conjure them up live just by turning up in Scotland mind. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Circlejerk04@aol.com Sent: 21 February 2005 14:38 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] (no subject) what are some good scottish bands that I should know about? I'm planning a trip there next spring and i want to start studying. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:40:50 -0000 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T: Who's playing where I live............. ...and who's playing (near) where I live............ http://www.the-zodiac.co.uk/shonkweb/zodframe.html AndyL - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Ari Sent: 20 February 2005 17:47 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: Who's playing where I live............. and this is just a couple places of the oh-so-many night clubs/concert venues........... Ari http://www.catscradle.com/schedule.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:45:05 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Trouser Press on Wire as of late > I am a silent subscriber mostly, but was looking through the Wire > web-ring last night and came across the updated review on Wire/Wir/Wire > solo at trouserpress.com. I like Trouser Press. However, I'm having a > reaction, and here is as good a listening for it as any place. They > apparently asked a second writer to grapple with the reviews for > everything Wire through 2003 (something like 6-7 pages), and the old > reviews covering Pink Flag to Manscape were replaced with even more > bias than before (see below). This is actually not new text. It became the default entry in Trouser Press for Wire in 1997. If you look at the author of the text in the 1997 edition of "The Trouser Press Guide to 90's Rock" (aka the fifth edition of the Trouser Press guide), you will see that the text in question was written by Jim DeRogatis. Jim DeRogatis, if you recall, is a member of Ex-Lion Tamers, the band that opened for 80's Wire performing a note for note cover of 1977's Pink Flag in its entirety. There is a theory on IdealCopy that you tend to prefer the phase of Wire you heard first. It would not surprise me in the least if Jim wasn't too keen on 80's Wire at all - especially since he had learned to play Pink Flag note by note. If you compare the review of the first Wire phase to the second Wire phase, I think you will see Jim's bias. The text on-line is unchanged from the 1997 book. Also, be aware that Jim is a drummer - his comments about Robert must be viewed in that respect. Not that I don't agree with him about Robert being talented - I think Robert is amazing! I'm just saying that Jim might not be entirely unbiased, since he was known for performing Robert's drum parts. Cheers, Paul P.S. Yes - I have the Trouser Press 3rd and 4th editions with the original review. Unfortunately, the on-line version of Trouser Press no longer archives this reveiw. (^_^) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #49 ******************************