From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V8 #23 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, January 25 2005 Volume 08 : Number 023 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] RE: cowboysinternational.com ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday [Aaron Mandel Subject: [idealcopy] RE: cowboysinternational.com >>>The musicians were flawless, the parents had a great time, and I wondered what the point was.<<< Ummmm, I suppose a bit like the Pixies last year. Though a lot of people, myself included, had a great time... NP Brian Wilson's Smile (again and again), oh, and Kasabian. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:36:57 -0000 From: "Tear Alistair (ST)" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Ludd gang - a request Before this vile calumny goes any further may I say I only bought a 'free to air' set-top box so no Murdoch content there AFAIK.... and thanks for the offers of help, you know who you are...:-) A By next weekend I should be wired for digital myself //// AND so the Murdoch-reptile claims yet another gallant hold-out in his quest for global media domination............. Doesn't seem like there's many of us left, now. I always said it'd be a cold day in Hell when I signed up for Rupert's 'product', and so far so good............ But the more sporting events and choice programming he boxes off for his 'exclusive' use, the more I wonder just how long I can keep my embargo up............. ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:55:21 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ludd gang - a request Before this vile calumny goes any further may I say I only bought a 'free to air' set-top box so no Murdoch content there AFAIK.... and thanks for the offers of help, you know who you are...:-) Actually you get Sky News and Sky Sports News as part of the Freeview package, so you'e Rupe's bitch now.... Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:05:49 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday After the release schedules being frankly rubbish for ages, lots of good new stuff out in the UK today; I can see people here being interested in any and all of the Scritti Politti comp, LCD Soundsystem, Low, Tim's labelmates M83, Mercury Rev, and the two Bright Eyes records. I'd be interested to hear what people make of these... - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 10pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:26:12 -0000 From: "Tear Alistair (ST)" Subject: FW: [idealcopy] Ludd gang - a request/Murdoch Ari said > Rupert Murdoch is a nazi menace [SNIP] > the quicker r.m drops dead the quicker I'll breathe > easy,I've been ranting against this bastard for years I hope he dies a painfull and lingering death but the dynastic succession is already in place, I'm afraid ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:57:16 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Gang of 4 at Manchester After all these years, the Gang of 4 are back! And from the moment they opened with a tribal beat c/o Hugo Burnham, before Gill, standing centre stage, added his trademark slashing guitar, you knew you were in for a treat. King, stage left, then joined in with a spot of maracas before Allen added the final ingredient - a heavy throbbing bass that I could feel deep in my chest. It was a classy entrance, and a classy number. And that was just the start, because the GO4 maintained momentum throughout, putting on a real visual treat with Gill strutting around like Chuck Berry receiving electric shock treatment, Allen adopting rock postures, whilst King danced around stage like some demented soul. King is an energetic front man for sure - my favourite move of his was when he suddenly dropped to the floor and within the blink of the eye was then singing at the mic at the side of the stage! As for Burnham, well he played in darkness at the back all night so we saw very little of him, but in many ways he was the star of the show for me - at times keeping a metronomic beat going in much the same way as Robert Gotobed. I'm not a GO4 completist by any means, but there were lots of oldies with the highlights being King banging that piece of metal to He'd Send In The Army (whereupon some 'wit' in the crowd shouted "You noisy f***er!"), a rousing At Home He's A Tourist (there was a lovely moment at the beginning when Allen briefly lost his studied cool and smiled as he watched the audience going crazy to that riff), and an almost wild Natural's Not In It. We got two encores - the first ending with Damaged Goods, which had a false intro due to Allen fluffing it - whereupon he and Gill got all matey with audience as they informed us how many mistakes the others had made - this cheeriness was certainly at odds with the rest of the set. They could quite happily have ended it there for me - the "Goodbye, goodbye" refrain certainly seemed appropriate - but on they came again for I Love A Man In Uniform before Burnham wandered to the front and joined the rest of the band in lapping up the audience devotion. There's further gigs at Leeds, Bristol, Birmingham and London yet. Don't miss them. You're in for a treat. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:57:04 -0500 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday really like the LCD soundsystem one , scrounged a promo after reading rave reviews in both uncut and mojo. not heard too much of bright eyes , but again the reviewers are drooling. at the other end of the scale , there seems to be a huge red warning triangle over athlete. incredibly , people seem to keep referring to them as keane-lite ( remembering that keane were coldplay-lite and coldplay were radiohead-lite , this seems some comment). this surely must be one awesomely bad album? p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:08:15 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 07:57:04AM -0500, PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > at the other end of the scale , there seems to be a huge red warning > triangle over athlete. incredibly , people seem to keep referring to > them as keane-lite ( remembering that keane were coldplay-lite and > coldplay were radiohead-lite , this seems some comment). this surely > must be one awesomely bad album? p I sometimes help review the singles for CUR1350. We're basically a bunch of university indie-kids, so exactly who you'd expect to be Athlete-positive; there's more than the odd Snow Patrol fan knocking about. The *mention* of Athlete induces a full-body cringe in the assembled crowd. That's pretty telling, I reckon. - - Andrew (losing his edge) - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 10pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:52:21 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday >>I sometimes help review the singles for CUR1350. We're basically a bunch of university indie-kids, so exactly who you'd expect to be Athlete-positive; there's more than the odd Snow Patrol fan knocking about. The *mention* of Athlete induces a full-body cringe in the assembled crowd. That's pretty telling, I reckon.<< Athlete are all over MTV2/VH2 like a rash - obviously a big push from their label. Certainly smacks of depseration - Athlet have been hanging around like a bad smell for about 4 years now - made a couple of dreary albums already. There must be a real lack of new identikit blandindie if they're getting the big push to be this year's Coldsailor. I despair sometimes... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:16:58 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 09:52:21AM -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > There must be a real lack of new identikit blandindie if they're > getting the big push to be this year's Coldsailor. I despair > sometimes... I sense a new genre name! "'Flu Rock". You know it makes sense, etc. - - Andrew - -- Dept of Earth Sciences, Univ. Cambridge ::: http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk ::: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ Random Walk, 11pm Mondays, CUR1350 ::: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:25:16 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday I sense a new genre name! "'Flu Rock". You know it makes sense, etc. You're implying that there is some element of "rock" involved.... Not really as nasty as flu either. Just a snivel. Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:56:32 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gang of Four Secret gig Keith A: > Anyone know if they have plans to tour America? They're headlining Coachella... hasn't been ofiicially announced yet, but I've been assured it's happening, so I'd anticipate a tour around then. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:58:36 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: > After the release schedules being frankly rubbish for ages, lots of good > new stuff out in the UK today; I can see people here being interested in > any and all of the Scritti Politti comp, LCD Soundsystem, Low, Tim's > labelmates M83, Mercury Rev, and the two Bright Eyes records. LCD Soundsystem: Some of it is brilliant, and the rest seems like it will probably always be brilliantly-produced filler, rather than growing on me with time, but I plan to give it a chance. Packaged with the bonus disc of all their singles it is pretty fantastic. Most reviewers seem to like the Bright Eyes 'Americana' album more than the electronic one, unlike me. I liked both of them okay, but at the moment I'd rather hear him doing something new amateurishly (Digital Ash) than demonstrating his total mastery of something that I am probably about one album away from being totally sick of (I'm Wide Awake). a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:23:29 -0800 From: Doug Wittner Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday is the Scritti comp out already in the UK? major suppliers list the release date as feb 14th, but if it's out now i need to find somewhere to get it...been waiting for aaaaggggeeeessss.... On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:58:36 -0500 (EST), Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: > > > After the release schedules being frankly rubbish for ages, lots of good > > new stuff out in the UK today; I can see people here being interested in > > any and all of the Scritti Politti comp, LCD Soundsystem, Low, Tim's > > labelmates M83, Mercury Rev, and the two Bright Eyes records. > > LCD Soundsystem: Some of it is brilliant, and the rest seems like it will > probably always be brilliantly-produced filler, rather than growing on me > with time, but I plan to give it a chance. Packaged with the bonus disc of > all their singles it is pretty fantastic. > > Most reviewers seem to like the Bright Eyes 'Americana' album more than > the electronic one, unlike me. I liked both of them okay, but at the > moment I'd rather hear him doing something new amateurishly (Digital Ash) > than demonstrating his total mastery of something that I am probably about > one album away from being totally sick of (I'm Wide Awake). > > a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:48:14 +0000 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Today is New Album Monday It is indeed. After a slow start as usual, 2005 begins today in the musical sense. Best of the bunch is the Low album. Its quite a change of tack for them, much much louder and more upfront than normal, and lots of major chords but with the usual lovely vocal harmonies and haunting melodies...and it works a treat. This is their most acessible work to date and its interesting to hear that Low are actually really good at cranking up the amps and can put quite a few other bands to shame when they decide to rock out! .Despite what some reviews have said it doesn't detract from their thang at all I reckon. Excellent. I Like the Mercury Rev one too. Its pretty immense. Even more commercial than previous efforts but still a little too skewed and freaky for the Flu-Rock kids. Can't comment yet...needs a few more listens but its like a 5 course dinner, best saved for a weekend I think. Still hasn't displaced See You On The Other Side as my fave Rev album though. > >>After the release schedules being frankly rubbish for ages, lots of good >>new stuff out in the UK today; I can see people here being interested in >>any and all of the Scritti Politti comp, LCD Soundsystem, Low, Tim's >>labelmates M83 Not anymore! They've been 'licensed' to a label with a much bigger marketing budget than ours. They are the OMD of Gooom Disques! Not heard this hoping to blag a free copy, innit! , Mercury Rev, and the two Bright Eyes records. > > > LCD Soundsystem: Some of it is brilliant, and the rest seems like it will > probably always be brilliantly-produced filler, rather than growing on me > with time, but I plan to give it a chance. Packaged with the bonus disc of > all their singles it is pretty fantastic. Bought this on a whim. Its fun stuff. Good party music, if a bit 'arch' and sometimes a bit too clever for its own good. Of the tracks which don't sound exactly like The Rapture there are very blatant rip offs of The Fall, ACR, New Order, White Album era Beatles (why?!) Beck and most amusingly and enjoyably 'Warm Jets' era Brian Eno at the end. Why does the guy sing like someone is pinching his nose? Is it an in-joke for cocaine bores and NYC/London trendies that this record is probably aimed at? I hope not and that he just has some sort of adenoidal defect. > > Most reviewers seem to like the Bright Eyes 'Americana' album more than > the electronic one, unlike me. I liked both of them okay, but at the > moment I'd rather hear him doing something new amateurishly (Digital Ash) > than demonstrating his total mastery of something that I am probably about > one album away from being totally sick of (I'm Wide Awake). I've no knowledge of these but keep reading good things about them...and then I read they had two singles in the US Billboard Top 10??! Thats very offputting! Are they not shit then? How come they sold so many record in the US? ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V8 #23 ******************************