From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #344 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, November 29 2004 Volume 07 : Number 344 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] To Have And To Hold [Jan Noorda ] [idealcopy] punk77 [Jan Noorda ] Re: [idealcopy] punk77/punk04 [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] punk77 ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] punk77/punk04 ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] To Have And To Hold [Ari ] [idealcopy] The Longcut ["Keith Astbury" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jan Noorda Subject: Re: [idealcopy] To Have And To Hold Does someone else know more great whispering recordings? I'm rather partial to Chrome's 'You've Been Duplicated' - - Ian B - I add: Etant Donnis - Aurore. - -janj- Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:14:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jan Noorda Subject: [idealcopy] punk77 Great site on http://www.punk77.co.uk/linkpage/punkbands.htm with Art Attacks and Wire of course j Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:13:01 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] punk77/punk04 In a message dated 11/28/04 11:22:49 AM, janjnoorda@yahoo.com writes: > Great site on > http://www.punk77.co.uk/linkpage/punkbands.htm > > with Art Attacks and Wire of course > neat site, thanks jan. but who's this robin gotobed person? :o) - -paul c.d. p.s. my ten-year-old son has developed a real taste for music (or i should say his taste is more focused now), and he loves pink flag. he's listening to a lot of punk and synth pop, so i think wire is going to sit very comfortably among his favorite bands :o) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:59:23 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] punk77 thanks for that, jan -- i'd had the site bookmarked on my last computer, but misplaced the url & had neglected to track it down after acquiring my present machine during the summer. one thing that strikes me, though, is that i clearly remember the guy who does the site offering cdr's of mouth-wateringly rare archival stuff (that i never got around to purchasing in part because of the cost of postage from the uk to here) ... yet now a cursory glimpse produces not an inkling of such. dunno if i just overlooked it, or what. dan > Great site on > http://www.punk77.co.uk/linkpage/punkbands.htm > > with Art Attacks and Wire of course > > j ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:27:11 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] punk77/punk04 > -paul c.d. > > p.s. my ten-year-old son has developed a real taste for music (or i should > say his taste is more focused now), and he loves pink flag. he's listening to a > lot of punk and synth pop, so i think wire is going to sit very comfortably > among his favorite bands :o) ouch ... kids. i have none of my own (i don't think the 11-year-old black lab & 16-year-old shih tzu count, & besides they're far more mature than i am on any number of fronts, most prominently financially), but i had to flinch a couple of days ago after getting an email from an old friend for whom i'd made a cdr of horror-themed stuff ... he'd asked if i had a copy of the jim carroll band's people who died after hearing it used to great effect during the roller-coaster-ride end credits of the dawn of the dead remake (best use of an older song in a movie in years, btw, rivaled perhaps only by the jamc's just like honey in the otherwise pleasant-enough but stultifyingly overrated lost in translation). using the horror motif (we share a love of that cinematic genre) in hopes of actually getting him to listen to something halfway decent for a change (he's a lifelong ted nugent fan, though he does have decent taste in old '60s stuff), to the carroll song i added the likes of the cramps' surfin' dead, gun club's walkin' with the beast, asf's (now i'm feeling) zombiefied, stranglers' straighten out, new math's they walk behind you, damned's wait for the blackout, adverts' gary gilmore's eyes, toy dolls' my wife's a psychopath, revillos' she's fallen in love with a monster man, psyc furs' flowers, screaming dead's 20th century vampire, deja voodoo's cemetery (which incidentally, just for the sake of the veriest bit of wire content, occurs midway through side 2 of their debut lp right before their cover of strange), & a few others ... along with what i think of as a "necromancy mini-suite" of the hoodoo gurus' dig it up, tsol's code blue & the vibrators' stiff little fingers (eater's anne was a contender, too, & i'm positive i'm forgetting yet another obvious candidate). all well & good till the arrival a couple of days ago of the guy's email mentioning how much his 3-year-old son has been liking the first song, people who died. no problem there -- warp 'em when they're young, i always say -- but i *cringe* at the thought of my friend's reaction if his kid (or the child's 8-or-9-year-old half-sister) should start paying attention an hour or so later to the tsol track, with its cheery lyrics about how i never got along with the girls at my school filling me up with all their morals & their rules they'd pile all their problems on my head i'd rather go out & fuck the dead middle of the night so silently i creep on over to the mortuary lift up the casket & fiddle with the dead their cold blue flesh makes me turn red 'cause i do what i want & they won't complain i wanna fuck i wanna fuck the dead & i don't even care how she died but i like it better if she smells of formaldehyde never on the rag or say leave me alone they don't scream & they don't moan don't even cry if i shoot in their hair lying on the table she smiles & she stares *crap* perhaps i should've gone with i am the fly instead ... though really it's his own damned fault -- if only i hadn't already known he'd have hated the "arty" likes of the flying lizards' the window or even the chills' pink frost ... dan, menace to society ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:05:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] To Have And To Hold - --- Jan Noorda wrote: >> Does someone else know more great whispering recordings?<< I'd have to add shriekback's 'this big hush' from their Oil and Gold album. Ari n.p shriekback compilation __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:08:05 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] The Longcut Readers with long memories may recall I was raving about a self-financed promo I heard last xmas, by a young Manchester band The Longcut, who reminded me of - - at various moments - The Fall (rants!), Joy Division (basslines), and Mogwai and McGeogh-era Banshees (guitar) etc. (You can read my review here... http://www.evilsponge.org/albums/Longcut__st.htm ) Anyway, it appears that I wasn't alone in rating them - they recorded a session for Steve Lamacq a few weeks back and they release their first single for Deltasonic (home of The Coral, etc) on Monday - a new version of the excellent Transition from their promo. It was one of the NME's singles of the week this week, and The Guardian give them a good review yesterday, calling them the best thing to come out of Manchester since the M whatever. (Can't really see the Wedding Present connection though!) Although I haven't heard the new version of Transition, I saw them live the other night in a tiny Wrexham venue, and they really were very good. It's a bit odd at first watching the singer sing for a bit, wander behind the drums (where he REALLY excels) before returning to sing a few more bars as a drum machine keeps the beat going, but it's a fairly novel approach. Definitely worth catching next time they tour if you wanna see a young act thrash away to their hearts content. Keith ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #344 *******************************