From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #337 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, November 22 2004 Volume 07 : Number 337 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Iggy On The South Bank Show ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Punk Rarities [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] Might be worth a look........ [Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Iggy On The South Bank Show > http://www.southbankshow.com/coming_shows/show/60 > > > .......but make sure you don't accidentally set it for tomorrow and get the > Darkness (on the SBS........what's going on?) p A retrospective look at their long and varied career? Or is like a 60 Seconds News version. The Darkness appeared to burst on the scene from nowhere, releasing a hugely successful debut album which featured tired old and cliched riffs to match video's featuring giant flying saucers and singer Justin Hawkins ludicrous stage persona and outfits. They are now working on a follow-up featuring material that Hawkins himself has said isn't good enough, although - speaking of material - he has invested in some fetching new spandex. Next week Iggy Pop and your chance to vote whether he looks better with short or long hair. Who said televison's being dumbed down? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:52:45 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Punk Rarities In a message dated 19/11/2004 23:18:04 GMT Standard Time, Robert.Cambra@HARPERCOLLINS.com writes: What other great seminal punk band (or pub rock turned punk band) became as pointless and lame as the Stranglers? /////well the one worse act of this type have got to be stiff little fingers , who were never in the same league as the stranglers and have kept flogging their lame mule until the present day. can any act have based a big label career on so few good tunes? p ps i see bruce foxton has put a new band together , and there's a new steve diggle album out soon. feeling spoilt? thought not.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:48:19 -0000 From: "j.hobson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Punk Rarities - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Punk Rarities > > /////well the one worse act of this type have got to be stiff little > fingers > , who were never in the same league as the stranglers and have kept > flogging > their lame mule until the present day. can any act have based a big label > career on so few good tunes? p It grieves me to agree with this. I went to school with Jake Burns and wrote for the fanzine Alternative Ulster which he took for a song title. I couldn't believe my ears during the summer when he popped up on 6 Music to strum an acoustic version of Alternative Ulster. I emailed in 'Why?'. But it seems once you have a moment of transient glory you can't go back. Mind you SLF were very unlucky. Rough Trade screwed up the distribution of their debut RT single. It sold at least 100000 in its first week but only went top 20 because they forgot to push it in the stores compiling the charts. Had they hit number 1 their path may have been different. Or maybe not. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:24:58 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Punk Rarities >>Mind you SLF were very unlucky. Rough Trade screwed up the distribution of their debut RT single. It sold at least 100000 in its first week but only went top 20 because they forgot to push it in the stores compiling the charts.<< Not really a case of 'forgot'. RT and the other indies simply didn't have the ability to get records into the charts in the 70s or 80s as the bulk of chart return sales came from Woolworth's, Boots. WH Smiths etc. The independent chart return shops tended not to stock 'indie' releases as their distributors didn't handle the records. Many provincial punkers bought via mail order from the likes of Rough Trade - which weren't chart return shops. There was a tiny little shop in my town (Blackpool) that stocked indie stuff - generally one copy of everything. Non chart-return of course. Beyond that it was a trip to Manchester or Liverpool on the bus on Saturday. >>Had they hit number 1 their path may have been different. Or maybe not. << Doubt if even 100,000 would have guaranteed you number one back then. And I doubt whether SLF would have produced anything of value - they signed to a major after the first album and produced a heap of old toss... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:23:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] Might be worth a look........ http://www.yourmusic.com/enrollment/howitworks/ but don't search for Television................ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #337 *******************************