From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #310 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, October 27 2004 Volume 07 : Number 310 Today's Subjects: ----------------- FW: [idealcopy] itunes (iwonder..) [Alistair Tear ] [idealcopy] Yahoo! UK & Ireland - Story - Broadcaster John Peel dies in Peru [Yahoo! UK & Ireland ] [idealcopy] End of an Era ?(Peel died today) [Jan Noorda ] Re: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies ["Keith Astbury" ] RE: [idealcopy] RIP Peelie ["Adrian Cooke" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:26:13 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: FW: [idealcopy] itunes (iwonder..) That's just plain wrong no. "albums" didn't really exist until the Beatles. before then it was singles. which is, really, just like MP3s.... PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:08:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: [idealcopy] This is for real, there's tears in my eyes: John Peel dies.......... I 've just seen the tail-end of the regional news on TV, and the last stop-press item was the announcement "Radio 1 DJ John Peel has died suddenly while on holiday". For once, I'm lost for words. Devastated. :-( Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:12:38 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] Sorry for ruining everyone's day... From BBC website... Veteran BBC broadcaster John Peel has died at the age of 65, while on holiday in Peru. Peel, whose radio career spanned 40 years, was on a working holiday in the resort of Cuzco with his wife Sheila when he suffered a heart attack. He was BBC Radio 1's longest-serving DJ and in recent years had also presented Home Truths on Radio 4. Radio 1 controller Andy Parfitt said Peel's contribution to modern music and culture was "immeasurable". ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:15:10 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] OT: terribly sad radio news. Rest in peace, John Peel. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/altnews/041026_john_peel.shtml - - A - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 10pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:36:27 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies gutted. upset. truly an end of an era. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3955289.stm=20 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of BBC NEWS Entertainment TV and Radio Legendary radio DJ John Peel dies.url] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:35:09 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: FW: [idealcopy] Sorry for ruining everyone's day... very bad news... this is the man who introduced me to Wire RIP A From BBC website... Veteran BBC broadcaster John Peel has died at the age of 65, while on holiday in Peru. Peel, whose radio career spanned 40 years, was on a working holiday in the resort of Cuzco with his wife Sheila when he suffered a heart attack. He was BBC Radio 1's longest-serving DJ and in recent years had also presented Home Truths on Radio 4. Radio 1 controller Andy Parfitt said Peel's contribution to modern music and culture was "immeasurable". ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:10:58 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies Very sad news indeed. John introduced me to so many new bands. R.I.P. Bart > Veteran BBC broadcaster John Peel has died at the age of 65, while on > holiday in Peru. > Peel, whose radio career spanned 40 years, was on a working holiday in the > resort of Cuzco with his wife Sheila when he suffered a heart attack. > > He was BBC Radio 1's longest-serving DJ and in recent years had also > presented Home Truths on Radio 4. > > Radio 1 controller Andy Parfitt said Peel's contribution to modern music and > culture was "immeasurable". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:27:37 GMT From: Yahoo! UK & Ireland Subject: [idealcopy] Yahoo! UK & Ireland - Story - Broadcaster John Peel dies in Peru kevin eden (wmouk@yahoo.com) has sent you a news article - ------------------------------------------------------------ Personal message text: A truly sad day. Radio will not be the same in this country. Broadcaster John Peel dies in Peru http://uk.news.yahoo.com/041026/325/f5bhp.html More storage, less Spam, built-in anti-virus - all for free with Yahoo! Mail http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/xpromotion/mail/news/email_article/tagline/*http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:53:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] John Peel R.I.P This is hard to take in... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3955369.stm Fergus __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:55:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Noorda Subject: [idealcopy] End of an Era ?(Peel died today) The man who introduced us to many music for almost 40 years like Pink Floyd, Faust, Bunny Wailer, Genesis, Soft Machine, Cabaret Voltaire. Buzzcocks, Joy Division, Fall, Orb... died. What would have become of them without John Peel. We had to thank him for introducing these acts to us. But it is too late. What rests are .... Condolances History documentaries the fanastic Peel Sessions j Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:39:28 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies I don't really know how to convey how sad I feel.I am almost angry that this man has left the world so early & both Radio 1 & music lovers need a replacement although Christ knows who can fill that man's shoes. It would be almost pathetic of me to attempt to describe to you how his radio shows influenced me in my formative years.I'm just so glad he was there. R.I.P. John Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:23:52 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies This is terrible. I very rarely got time (or made time) to listen to Peel in recent years, but it was always good to know he was there. By chance I was looking for a particular tape on Sunday night and put in my tape of the recent Wire session. The tape was positioned at the end where Peel is thanking our own Keith A for his email and expressing his wish that he hoped it wouldn't be another 14 years until the next session, quickly following up with the observation that he probably won't be around in another 14 years. How sad and how unusual the range and longevity of the man's impact and the affection and esteem he's held in. This is possibly a watershed in national music radio broadcasting. Anybody see Wire getting another shot at a twenty minute session on national? Gutted! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies > I don't really know how to convey how sad I feel.I am almost angry that this > man has left the world so early & both Radio 1 & music lovers need a > replacement although Christ knows who can fill that man's shoes. > It would be almost pathetic of me to attempt to describe to you how his > radio shows influenced me in my formative years.I'm just so glad he was there. > R.I.P. John > > Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:12:07 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies Where to begin... It's hard to imagine how someone I never knew could have had so profound an effect on my life. A particular moment that always sticks in the mind was listening to Peel's 'Birthday 40' - his 40 favourite tracks to clebrate his 40th Brithday. This would have been in 1979; I was 18, and here was an previously unimagined future - - you could be AS OLD AS 40 and still have phenomenal, brilliant, eclectic, obscure as fuck musical taste.... So I guess that's why I'm writing this now. The amount of music that I discovered directly through Peel is extraordinary - - stuff that's still with me now, especially stuff from his post-punk heyday, where his was literally the only place you could hear independent music... Met him once, in 2000, at a Fall gig (natch). A brief awestruck (me, not him!) conversation about the difficulties of tracking down members of long-defunct bands so that their permission to release old Peel sessions can be obtained. He's irreplaceable, frankly. The thought of not hearing him broadcasting again is hugely depressing. Enjoyed the surreal MES "tribute" on BBC Newsnight, and I suspect Peelie would have done too... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:14:28 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies > A particular moment that always sticks in the mind was listening to Peel's > 'Birthday 40' - his 40 favourite tracks to clebrate his 40th Brithday. This > would have been in 1979; I was 18, and here was an previously unimagined future > - you could be AS OLD AS 40 and still have phenomenal, brilliant, eclectic, > obscure as fuck musical taste.... Yeah, I remember that, too. And me and my mate had that same feeling. I can think of loads of memories - listening to his show the day Bolan died (probably the first time I heard his show in it's entirity), hearing The Seeds for the first time, The Only Ones first session, the first 3 tracks of Chairs Missing straight after each other, the first Cope session with the drum machine version of Head Hang Low, him playing How Soon Is Now and not mentioning who it was by and thinking it sounds like Moz but it doesn't sound like The Smiths, reading a letter I wrote about how good a Loop session was, those thrash tracks that lasted less time than it took him to announce the title, hearing lots of great one-off 45's like Road Pizza - Spit (which I never managed to buy), My Pal - God and Heavy Black Noise by Sacred Miracle Cave, all the way through to that last Wire session a couple of years back. And so on... I listened to Radio 1 as I was driving to Chester this evening, and they were talking about him and playing lots of records he supposedly liked. OK singles like Teenage Kicks and Ever Fallen In Love sort of sum him up (the latter track was on my very first Peel tape so it made perfect sense to me), but as much as I like things like Song 2 or Smells Like Teen Spirit, they don't really seem Peel records to me. I know this was pretty spontaneous, just a few hours after his death was announced, but I just wish that - TK and Ever Fallen apart - it had been less safe. I wanted them to give him a real tribute - some Beefheart, The Fall, some less obvious hits like Public Image or Rock Lobster, a spot of dub and lots of obscure bands that would never normally be heard at that time of day like that Monkey Power Trio he was raving about last year. And that Temple City Orchestra version of Staying Alive he used to play circa '78/79 that used to crease me up every time I heard it. But then again, he's gonna mean something different to us all. > He's irreplaceable, frankly. The thought of not hearing him broadcasting > again is hugely depressing. Yeah. *Hugely*. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:45:45 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] DJ John Peel dies > > A particular moment that always sticks in the mind was listening to Peel's > > 'Birthday 40' - his 40 favourite tracks to clebrate his 40th Brithday. On a lighter note - and on-topic, too - I came across this 'tribute' on another list. " i remember masturbting to that crazy thing wire session. i worked in a nursery picking the dead heads off carnations. it was tedious work but i'd had a week to prepare myself. cleared out the greenhouse that afternoon, apart from the freckled farmer's daughter... anyway, it was a brilliant piece of music and a floral evening." As I said, he's gonna mean something different to us all! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:19:45 +0100 From: Mark McQuitty Subject: [idealcopy] RIP Peelie I always thought he would be around forever. But he's gone. I feel sad. I haven't been a regular listener to the R1 show for some time but I took comfort from knowing that he was there doing his thing. He has always been a total inspiration as a broadcaster and human being. I'm going to miss the very fact of him. See ya Peelie. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:29:55 +0100 From: "Adrian Cooke" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] RIP Peelie This is a truly sad time. I had the great privilege of spending an afternoon with John Peel (and his family, and window cleaner as I recall!) at his home in Suffolk about 10 years ago. I was interviewing him for a project I was doing at the time and was surprised and delighted to find how willing to help he was and still how enthusiastic he was about uncovering new music. I was also starting a new label at the time and tentatively left him a copy of the debut release 'in case he thought it was any good'. He played it on his next show and subsequently played everything else I ever sent him. He also recognized me and asked how things were going when I bumped into him in Leeds a year later which I just found astounding. I think he was probably the biggest single reason for pursuing any further music projects which I'm sure many other people can identify with. He is absolutely irreplaceable and will be sorely missed for many years. I hope his legacy means that a similar outlet for brand new music is maintained. John Peel was probably one of the most loved people in the world. And for all the right reasons. Thanks John Adrian I always thought he would be around forever. But he's gone. I feel sad. I haven't been a regular listener to the R1 show for some time but I took comfort from knowing that he was there doing his thing. He has always been a total inspiration as a broadcaster and human being. I'm going to miss the very fact of him. See ya Peelie. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #310 *******************************