From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #272 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, September 18 2004 Volume 07 : Number 272 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Re: Happy Birthday to a couple of my heroes! [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Happy Birthday Colin... [Derek White Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 04:05:28 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ari > Subject: [idealcopy] Happy Birthday Colin... > > ..........as no-one else remembered seemingly (it's > easy for me as it's mine too) Have a great day,feel > free to drop 'round for a drink..............Ari > > That's really cool that you and Colin share a birthday........Happy Belated Birthday to you both Robert-who-shares-the-same-birthday-with-fellow-Aquarian-John-Balance-of-Coil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:39:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Happy Birthday Colin... Here's raising a long cold one to the pair of you.......... Bart van Damme wrote:> ..........as no-one else remembered seemingly (it's > easy for me as it's mine too) Have a great day,feel > free to drop 'round for a drink..............Ari Smart Ari! Happy B-day both! Bottoms up! Bart vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:08:31 +0100 (BST) From: Monochromatic Man Subject: [idealcopy] OT: can somebody cheer me up? I've just been made redundant... oh yeah, Happy Birthdays all round! wnd3 ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:12:37 -0500 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Happy Birthday Colin... Well, I'm positively chuffed (that's Britslang for being really pleased isn't it?). Just got notice from paypal that I sold a copy of Certain General's "Introduction to War" to Mike Thorne!!!! Back in '82 when Certain General were rehearsing material for the recording of their first ep. "Holiday of Love" - subsequently released by Labor Records in Sept. 82 - we were (well I was since I was the band's manager) looking for producers. Being the huge Wire fan that I was, and also since Mike had worked recently on both Shirts albums (a Brooklyn-based CBGB band that I really liked) in addition to John Cale's "Honi Soit" and Nina Hagen's "Nunsexmonk Rock" I tracked him down and managed to get a long interview from him (being as I also wrote for the NYRocker at the time) which bemused him mostly since I wanted to find out about how he recorded Wire and was not the least bit interested in the Soft Cell "Tainted Love" story which had just given him a taste of commercial success. I also used the opportunity to pitch the Certain General project to him, and he came out to see the band at CBGB that Spring. He gave pretty positive feedback and noted a tune or too he especially liked, but since he came in partway through the gig, the band spent the next several days trying to figure out which songs he particularly liked, never to reach a consensus. Anyway, Mike never wound up working w/ Certain General, that gig went actually to Peter Holsapple (of the dB's) and Mike Gira (soon to be of Swans) but I felt at the time, and still do, that he and the band would have been an excellent match. So I hope he enjoys the discs and that I can get some feedback from him. Interestingly enough, a number of tracks recorded at the show he attended made it to the CD issue, so I'll be curious if they are consistent with his memories (if any) of the night. Steve G http://www.sourmashusa.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:16:53 -0500 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] WIRE's "OUTDOOR MINER" TRIBUTE I don't see that being lame at all, as my copy of the Lush EP their cover was on (which goes for mucho coin on eBay) was stolen a couple of years back. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of PaulRabjohn@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 3:04 AM To: comsat@tig.com.au; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIRE's "OUTDOOR MINER" TRIBUTE hmmmm , wonder how many copies they think this'll shift? interesting that the 12xu version of this concept never happened ; is this one from the same people? i suppose it'll have some curiosity value but its a bit lame sticking those ancient lush / flying saucer attack tracks on which have been doing the rounds for years. i shall go investigate the downloads........p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:58:41 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIRE's "OUTDOOR MINER" TRIBUTE > Full song sound samples: www.words-on-music.com/sounds.html > I went to this website - and a nice website it is too - and found the following link: http://www.theidealcopy.com/ A on-line record store. Who knew? I had no idea. Now, with Digital CD being the primary music distribution medium, I guess it is "The Ideal Copy" after all! (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:59:04 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIRE's "OUTDOOR MINER" TRIBUTE >>I don't see that being lame at all, as my copy of the Lush EP their cover was on (which goes for mucho coin on eBay) was stolen a couple of years back. << They sometimes fetch a whole pound at record fairs. More often fifty pence. Memo to self - must buy them when I see them! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:58:40 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIRE's "OUTDOOR MINER" TRIBUTE > I don't see that being lame at all, as my copy of the Lush EP their > cover was on (which goes for mucho coin on eBay) was stolen a couple of > years back. It's on the For Love EP. (Yes - I was a huge Lush fan...(^_^)) I don't mind getting the Lush version on the CD, since my copy of the EP was on vinyl! Plus - I'm very interested to hear Adam Franklin's version. Next to Wire, Swervedriver is my favorite band. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:18:49 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: can somebody cheer me up? what can i say? well , best laugh i got today was seeing a poster for a Darkness tribute band. called ........the Lightness. not sure if this is funny or frightening actually.....probably the latter. PJH on jonathan ross tonite btw. p ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:06:30 +0000 From: dpbailey@att.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Happy Birthday Colin... hope colin's went better than mine today, as power at the house has been out (i'm typing this from work) for 38 hours & counting, courtesy of hurricane ivan. *sigh* dan > ..........as no-one else remembered seemingly (it's > easy for me as it's mine too) Have a great day,feel > free to drop 'round for a drink..............Ari > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:53:51 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] and then there was one .... God, this band has had bad luck with ill-health. It is difficult to believe that the entire front line has gone. I can still picture the moment the lights went on at Manchester Electric Circus in May 77 and they were there on stage like the greatest rock dream conceivable. Curiously, although I didn't hear about the death until this morning, the gig I was at last night threw up two separate Ramones references. First band on (at the Brixton Windmill, basically a pub with a stage area around the back of the bar), The Loners, had a bassist who had a perfect Ramones haircut. He was also the worst backing vocalist I've ever heard, never in tune and often forgetting he had to sing into the mike due to his need to check his fingering. But this hardly mattered as the band sounded like they'd only met five seconds before getting on stage, frequently out of synch, resulting in a clatter which could have been highly embarrassing and with a singer who could barely strike a note any better than the bassist. And yet...there was enough spirit and song writing ability for it to be an enjoyable (and amusing) experience - - some angry songs about religion and an attitude which took me back to 76. And - get this - they are 14! It will be interesting to watch how they develop. After the excellent Misty's Big Adventure, it was time for Jeffrey Lewis, playing with his brother Jack and a drummer with a KaitO T-Shirt. Jeff announces that they are going to start with a lecture and they launch into a 7 minute song called something like 'The History of punk on the Lower East Side, New York 1963 - 1976'. It's astonishing. The lyrics (sung in verse, not spoken) cover exactly what it says, detailing the development of punk in NY - the VU, Dave Peel, the Fugs, Iggy, the NY Dolls, Patti Smith, Ramones - and at various points the band strike up a song from that band, covering about a dozen different tunes during the course of the song with perfect facility including an inspired acoustic version of Waiting for the Man. At the end, Lewis mentions UK punk and finishes with the statement that we took all the credit. Original, funny, educational, it's a tour de force and further proof that Jeffrey Lewis is now one of the great live performers. In fact he's single-handedly created two new song types - the song as lecture and the a capella songs he sings over his cartoon stories, standing on a box. Last night we had the start of his history of communism but as he's only done 8 pages ("this will end up being 40 minutes long") it only managed to get as far as Karl Marx after a dissection of feudalism. And at the end he did his epic song about being attacked and buggered by someone who he thought was Will Oldham - except it's not about that, it's about the self-doubt of the struggling singer-songwriter. Great songwriting. Great songwriter. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of P J Kane Sent: 16 September 2004 14:15 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] and then there was one .... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20040916/ap_on_en_mu/ obit_ramone Johnny Ramone died of prostate cancer. Tommy is the only Ramone left... what is the world coming to? PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #272 *******************************