From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #250 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, August 25 2004 Volume 07 : Number 250 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] RE: they have 200 couches ["Jason Rogers" ] [idealcopy] Fwd: TG Merchandise - New Web Page [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] RE: FW: [idealcopy] OT- Joy Division remakes ["Creaig Dunton" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: they have 200 couches PJK, That's funny that you were at the Levinhurst show and I didn't know it. I'll probably remember you when we meet because I always see familiar faces at all of these shows. Envie was a good opening band; tell them that they have my thumbs-up. If that was their off-night, I'll have to see their on-night. I bought my ticket to the Mission Of Burma show earlier this week. The MOB show is the day after the Pixies show that I'll be attending at Fox Theatre, so I'll have to be extra careful with the eardrums that week. Jason >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:16:01 GMT >From: "P J Kane" >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: they have 200 couches > ><< Interestingly enough, I went to the Earl the following week to see Lol >Tolhurst's current band, Levinhurst, that he formed with his wife, Cindy >Levinson (Levinhurst = combination of Levinson + Tolhurst last names). The >show was decent and Levinhurst played some danceable tunes that were >borderline goth/borderline Ladytron or something like that...for the >encore, they played a remix of "A Forest". After the Levinhurst show, a >friend and I met Lol Tolhurst and he talked with us for quite a long time. > >> > >okay, people, we need to coordinate better! i was at that show as well. i >am good friends with Envie, who were the middle opener. please note that >they were "off" that night, as the regular bassist was not there. >(defending his PhD thesis that weekend or something wierd like that....) > >as to Lol -- after the show i talked to him and Cindy briefly about >reviewing them on EvilSponge. i gave them a card and they gave us a copy >of the CD. one of my other reviewers has it, so i haven't heard it yet.... > Lol seemed really nice and very sincere when he asked me, "So, did you >like the show?" he seemed nervous about the prospects of being reviewed. >and he was very impressed that, amongst the 30 or so buttons i have on my >bag is an old Cure button i bought in 1987 or so.... > >dammit, one of these times we will meet at one of these shows. i pretty >much live at The EARL, so if you are going there let me know... > ><< Hey, Dan, are you going to the Mission Of Burma show on October 15 at >Echo Lounge? >> > >i'll be there for that one, although i haven't bought tickets yet. just >noting the date in my dayplanner, it tells me that is also the day that >Ramadan begins. i wonder what that means when Mission of Burma are playing >on that day.... > >PJK > >please don't hate me because i can't type..... >- --- >All the cool kids are doing it: >HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:21:25 GMT From: "P J Kane" Subject: Re: FW: [idealcopy] OT- Joy Division remakes << and look here's a whole web-page of JD Covers too!! >> wholly blap that's a lot of covers. and looking it it, i have some of these. i have both the Bedhead and Codeine discs with the cover versions on them. i had forgotten about those..... and Squarepusher does a version of "Love Will Tear Us Apart"? has anyone heard that? ooh, The Frames cover that one as well! anyone heard their version? speaking of Joy Division covers, there is a new(ish) gothy/post-punk band in ATL called eNTERTAINME.nt (don't get me started on their bizarro capitalization scheme) who ended their show on this past Firday night with a nice version of "Transmission". i also saw them do a full set of JD covers a few months back, when they opened for a Smiths tribute act .... PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:39:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Git gig Keith Moline blows a bit cool on Githead in this month's Wire: Githead: the name promises so much, a perfect clever/stupid masthead under which Minimal Compact's Malka Spigel, Wire's Colin Newman and ambient experimentalist Robin Rimbaud (Scanner) might find the freedom to strap on their guitars, and raise a little six-string hell and live out their rock'n'roll ambitions. The reality of tonight's performance, however, is far more prosaic. One might have expected Scanner to relish the opportunity to exchange a powerbook monitor for the type of monitor that you put your foot on mid solo, but he seems strangely subdued, uptight even. Could there be a conflict of extra-curricular agendas here ? Wire's recent reworkings of their art-punk classic Pink Flag have seen them adopt a slavering hard and fast attack that packs even greater punch than the group ever managed first time round, so it's not such a surprise to find Newman in this new project intent on exploring poppier, dreamier, less spiky and acerbic avenues and reining in his more rockist tendencies. Unfortunately this leaves Spigel and particularly Rimbaud having to play much straighter than they might have liked. What results is a rather muted take on the post-154 late 80s Wire template, with precious few of the twists of logic which made that music worthwhile. Newman's barked vocals, parodying the empty insistence of advertising, are interesting enough, and Spigel's warm, fulsome basslines provide pleasurable weight to the somewhat perfunctory rhythms, but the guitar interplay on which their music stands or falls is way too polite to achieve elevation. A dubby instrumental midway through comes closest, but still sounds uncomfortably similar to the stiff, bloodless soundscapes of the 1980s shoegazers like Kitchens Of Distinction or The Family Cat. Considering the pedigree of those involved, a disappointment. More madness required. He then goes on to rave about Coil's performance. Alongside one picture of Colin, there's three of John Balance, looking delightfully deranged with hobo-chic beard and raggy smock. Looks like he's been sleeping rough ever since the split with Sleazy. Fergus _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:24:21 -0400 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: TG Merchandise - New Web Page hmmm , not so sure about the #66 signed poster but i quite like the little "discipline" badge , might buy one of those. has anyone bought "re-TG"? i take it this is the remix album? any good? i presume now PTV are back on the road this means TG are dead and buried again. and credit indeed to alistair for those coil pics which came out superbly. was that just luck? :-) p Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.68]) by air-yh01.mail.aol.com (v101_r1.3) with ESMTP id MAILINYH12-2c1412b4be918d; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:08:45 -0400 Received: from Mail-Admins-Computer.local (mailgate.mutelibtech.com [194.70.81.160]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v101_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYH45-2c1412b4be918d; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:08:42 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by Mail-Admins-Computer.local; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:04:24 +0100 Date: 24 Aug 2004 15:04:23 +0100 Message-ID: <1028721012info@mutebank.co.uk> From: Mute Bank Subject: TG Merchandise - New Web Page X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 3.1 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Mute Bank Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-AOL-IP: 194.70.81.160 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Throbbing Gristle DVD Recording Merchandise Mute Bank have a limited quantity of RE-TG merchandise remaining which was sold at the TG DVD recording session on the 16th May at the Astoria in London. TG Now (CD & Vinyl) / T-Shirt / Postcards / Posters / Badges / Rock / Sticker Click here to view the new web page showing images of all available items plus full ordering details. http://www.mute.com/tg/merchandise - - Mute Bank 429 Harrow Road London W10 4RE Tel +44 (0) 20 8964 0029 Fax +44 (0) 20 8964 3722 Email info@mutebank.co.uk Web http://www.mutebank.co.uk Mute 429 Harrow Road London W10 4RE t. 0044 (0) 208 964 2001 f. 0044 (0) 208 968 4977 e. info@mute.info w. http://www.mute.com "Ban nothing, question everything" Mute has scanned this email for viruses prior to sending it to you. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:09:01 -0400 From: "Creaig Dunton" Subject: RE: FW: [idealcopy] OT- Joy Division remakes > and Squarepusher does a version of "Love Will Tear Us Apart"? > has anyone heard that? ooh, The Frames cover that one as well! > anyone heard their version? > The Squarepusher cover is nice, but not amazing. It doesn't really do anything different from the original, i.e., no fusion jazz or drum 'n bass elements added, but it is cool to think that Tom did the entire thing himself, bass, guitar, drums, synth and vocals. - -- Creaig ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:31:30 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: [idealcopy] OT: re-TG I have re-TG in both formats. It's a very nice droning, noisy, trancy, almost ambient at times kinda piece. The seaside rock was not whaw I thought it would be. You could really hurt someone with that piece of candy. wnd3 . --- PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > hmmm , not so sure about the #66 signed poster but i > quite like the little "discipline" badge , might buy > one of those. > > has anyone bought "re-TG"? i take it this is the > remix album? any good? > > i presume now PTV are back on the road this means TG > are dead and buried again. and credit indeed to > alistair for those coil pics which came out > superbly. was that just luck? :-) p ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:02:31 -0400 From: "Creaig Dunton" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Fwd: TG Merchandise - New Web Page > hmmm , not so sure about the #66 signed poster but i quite like > the little "discipline" badge , might buy one of those. > > has anyone bought "re-TG"? i take it this is the remix album? any good? > I've heard, but not yet bought...it's not a remix album (that would be "Mutant TG"), but a disc of all new material recorded during soundchecks for the recent shows. I haven't heard much, but it was interesting and I'll probably pick it up (hopefully) soon... - -- Creaig ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:36:30 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Slash Dot Dash Anyone else heard the new Fatboy Slim single? Entitled Slash Dot Dash, this is what he had to say about it... "There is repetition but this time the track actually has live guitars! The plan was to throw in a bit of Buzzcocks and the White Stripes. The track is just a comment on this new language people seem to have - although I don't even own a computer. Well, I do, the Atari in my studio, but no one ever sent me an email on that!" However, with lyrics along the lines of 'slash dot dash dot slash dot dash dot slash dot dash dot slash dot dot com', methinks he's been listening to Dot Dash!! I suggest the lads ring their solicitor pronto ; ) Tim Pope directs the video. Keith ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #250 *******************************