From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #247 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, August 22 2004 Volume 07 : Number 247 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] The Earlies ["Keith Knight" ] RE: [idealcopy] Interpol last night ["Keith Knight" ] [idealcopy] thoughts on idealcopy-digest V7 #246 [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Happy Mondays [Tim ] [idealcopy] OT- Joy Division remakes ["Paul Ye" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT- Joy Division remakes [eric719@webtv.net (Eric Strang)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 09:14:10 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: [idealcopy] The Earlies Off to see Flotation Toy Warning at the Borderline two nights ago for the first time in well over a year but - horror! - they come on stage to apologise that their keyboard has packed up, they won't be able to play and 'that's five years work down the drain'. God, I hope that's not true. So it's up to The Earlies to salvage the evening, Amusement Parks on Fire having earlier established the early shoots of a shoegazer revival that I'm not really sure we need yet. I have The Earlies album and like it a good deal - probably the best debut I've heard this year after TV on the Radio's magnificent effort. It's difficult to pin down as a record, demanding (and getting) repeated listenings to embed the songs in the memory. A little to in thrall to M Rev in a few places but otherwise a sparkingly original work. I think I was expecting a four piece (two Texans and two Brits) playing a fairly acoustically based set. Instead I got ELEVEN people shoehorned onto the tiny stage. This is Lambchop / Spree style excess and always welcome in my book. Two drummers - the First Rule of Guaranteed Excellence for live bands in my book as I may have said before - three pieces of brass - sax, trombone and trumpet - cello, flute, theramin, guitars and, count 'em, five keyboard players. Even Kraftwerk don't have this many! The noise is spectacular, using the variety of instruments to full effect, as the album is done full justice and then some. When they open up they open up, the noise almost physically coming off the stage. And they are obviously really enjoying it, lots of smiles and banter with the audience and it's a good place to be, watching this band. Am excellent performance and I'm ready to see them again, which fortunately I will be doing on Sunday at the Green Man Festival in the deepest west countryside. I'm mainly going to it to see Alasdair Roberts (which is enough to send our Alistair into relapse) but with The Earlies, Ella Guru and Gravenhurst on the same bill it promises to be a fun day (weather and the behaviour of my kids permitting). Another the Keith (coming down after a formidable day at the (cricket) test match yesterday - blessedly dry, England in ascendance, great bowling and catching, Lara resplendent and Gayle scoring six fours off an over) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:50:38 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Interpol last night For a moment there my sleep-addled brain interpreted Alistair's note below as referring to a Pop Group gig last year. But then I realised he was referring to Liars. And good as they are live, that's not quite in the same league of excitement. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Alistair Tear Sent: 20 August 2004 14:05 To: 'Bart van Damme' Cc: Wire (E-mail) Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Interpol last night Mark Riley played their upcoming single the other night and it sounds great... Funnily enough they reminded me of the Pop Group when I saw them at 93 feet east last year not only because they both got/had big tall beanpole frontmen... A > Another band I only just got to know are The Liars, but > they're absolutely > fucking brilliant! Haven't heard anything this loose, > creative and exciting > since The Popgroup! > > Bart > ************************************************************************ * The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 15:34:53 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] thoughts on idealcopy-digest V7 #246 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:17:12 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Interpol last night I've recently got to hear Interpol and must say that after the many mentions they got on this list I was disappointed.>>>>>> Interpol sucks.....next.... Another band I only just got to know are The Liars, but they're absolutely fucking brilliant! Haven't heard anything this loose, creative and exciting since The Popgroup!>>>>>>> AYE !!!! fantastic......regardless of certain naysayers, i still say i hear a mash up of The Pop Group, PIL, Gang of Four, Throbbing Gristle, and Coil.... Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:50:06 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] on returning Hi people I've been away for awhile due to being stricken by some unholy virus... Mark may be amused to know that it hit me the day after seeing Coil at the Ocean...;-) (it did include bouts of diahorrea)>>>>>>>> well that's great...that means that Coil really did a number on you...good good good Robert, was this a reliable source who told you that Githead were 'boring' ? because they were far from boring... much more polished than the 1st gig at the ICA as is to be expected...>>>>>>>> a fellow Coil fan is always reliable in my book....said person was bemoaning the rock guitar schlock and mainly Scanner's lame preset powerbook crap... Colin seemed to be enjoying himself, getting down with the beats... which was cause for some sniggering from aquaintences in attendance...(i.e. old fart trying to be a rock star) I knew buggerall about coil's music but I must say that they were jaw-droppingly, staggeringly, fantastic...>>>>> of course they were....they usually are....especially when John Balance is crazed.. thighpaulsandra and some other bloke playing banks of machinery from inside sort of tented canopy things...>>>>>>> the other bloke that you refer to, would be Peter "Sleazy" Christophersen ..formerly of the legendary Throbbing Gristle...the tented canopies were supposed to represent pillars? two blokes at the back playing vibraphone and hurdy-gurdy(!) and the frontman (Balance?) looking like an old testament prophet but, oh-so English, like Viv Stanshall gone bad... wearing something like a cross between a straitjacket and a shroud>>>>>>> yes....his latest look is loony a stunningly staged show and a really gentle vibe amongst the audience (unlike the gang of yahoos who were at KMFDM a few weeks ago..)>>>>> did they play the cover: "All The Pretty Little Horses" ? I have a couple of not-great pics of Githead and a couple of great ones of Coil I am happy to email them to any interested parties (offlist please)>>>>> i'd love to see the Coil pics! (RLynn9@aol.com) Jan, today I got my tickets for the Tuxedomoon gig anyone else going to this? or the Hafler Trio thing next weekend?>>>>>> you lucky lucky fellows.... Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:37:25 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] B.C. Gilbert Ordier i received a package from a friend yesterday. he loves stamps and places extra (decorative) ones on packages he sends. anyway, whose face was on my package?...none other than our bruce. does the ordier cd box come with table of the elements stamps? i've gotta look into this, they're really nice.>>>>> mine didn't !!! damn it.....wonder if they're available from the TOTE website? Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:11:16 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] they have 200 couches > Bit like watching The Eagles doing Joy Division covers. Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:53:49 +0100 (BST) From: =Monochromatic Man?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] they have 200 couches The other way round would have been better ;-)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah...the mind simply boggles at the notion of a Joy Division cover of "Desperado" or "Hotel California" ....... ; ) over and out... RL np - Luomo "Present Lover" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:59:10 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Happy Mondays Rex Broome wrote: > "Squirrel" was the last Mondays album I ever heard (bought it after > they broke up), and it really weirded me out. The rhythm section > sounds like, yeah, a really Neanderthal take on Motown that Mark E. > Smith could (and did) appreciate; Ryder sounds like Damo Suzuki; Good description Rex. I always say this about all the Mondays, they > were really truly misanthropically evil. I don't think they were evil, yes they were all grimy, petty thieves and small-time drug dealers from Salford, but not evil, nor misanthropic. They may have done some pretty evil things to their own braincells and nervous sytems , and probably battered a few people in fights but essentially they are no more truly Evil than say Ozzy Osbourne. This ramshackle band of near-do-wells happened to also have suprisingly highbrow and eclectic music tastes, hence the great records. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:45:24 -0600 From: "Paul Ye" Subject: [idealcopy] OT- Joy Division remakes I am looking for Joy Division remakes to make my own compilation. Aside from the cd "A Means To An End" (not including New Order versions) I have the following... NIN- Dead Souls Jawbox- Something Must Break Dessau- Isolation Swans- LWTUA (both versions) The Cure- LWTUA (low quality) There is a live version of Transmission by Smashing Pumpkins if anyone has a good recording of it please let me know. If anyone has any others of interest please let me know. Thanks as always- paulye154 _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:48:36 -0700 From: eric719@webtv.net (Eric Strang) Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT- Joy Division remakes I am looking for Joy Division remakes to make my own compilation. Aside from the cd "A Means To An End" (not including New Order versions) I have the following...>> There's another comp called Ceremonial: A Tribute to Joy Division, came out in '95. I don't have it so I couldn't tell you what's on it other than Lycia's version of In a Lonely Place. Eric ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #247 *******************************