From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #228 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, August 3 2004 Volume 07 : Number 228 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] O.T: This is VERY odd..... [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: [idealcopy] musos!! [Derek White ] Re: [idealcopy] musos!! ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] musos!! [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] musos!! [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Liars [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] musos!! [Tim ] [idealcopy] Iain Sinclair [Bunny Smedley ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 07:46:28 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: This is VERY odd..... >>From my linux laptop running Mozilla 1.6, the site looks a little weird. >>The pull down menus at the top are sitting in the advertisement underneath >>the header. > > I know they checked it for Windows & MacOS so my guess is it's a Linux > thing. But I don't do the scripting, just the design. > Nope - I just checked on my Windows desktop, and it's wrong there too with Mozilla 1.7.1. It's apparently a Mozilla thing. (^_^) I primarily use Mozilla on all of my computers. I even build it for the PlayStation 2: http://playstation2-linux.com/projects/mozilla-ps2 Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 12:37:26 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] musos!! >>all Topped off with an Electro-Harmonix Electric Mistress flanger<< Now you've said the magic word. Apologies to gearophobes on the list, but I couldn't resist the mention of the mighty Electro-Harmonix corporation and its splendidly named products. I too have an Electric Mistress (oo-er) as well as two EH Memory Man analogue echo/chorus units (one is a deluxe model with an extra dial). Truly essential IMO, along with the equally mighty MXR Distortion Plus pedal. I've a whoile pile of effects - from decent stuff like Crybaby wahwah pedals to various cheapo Japanese distortions & choruses by people like Guyatone and Rozz, as well as a nice little graphic equalizer stomp box by Ibanez which allows mighty treble boosting and volume increase ;-). I've also got an original SansAmp amp simulator which is useful, like a primitive analogue version of a LIne 6 Pod. As for guitars, over the years i've accumulated the following: 1966 Fender Musicmaster, customised with switchable twin-coil humbucker at the bridge. White w/red scratchplate. I've owned this since 1982 and it is a truly wonderful thing indeed, with a range of sounds from trebly telecaster style to a fuller, almost Gibson tone. And you can mix in the original neck pick-up too. 1969 Fender Mustang. Blue, with competition stripe. Always liked the Mustang shape much more than the strat. 1967 Fender Electric XII. White/red to match the Musicmaster. Only got one sound, but a good one. And much nicer to play than a rickenbacker. 1986 Fender Jaguar reissue. Can't afford a vintage one! Candy apple red w/matching headstock. 1969 Gibson Trini Lopez. Like a mutant 335 with a Firebird nexk (much prefer the inline tuners) and drop dead cool diamond-shaped f-holes and matching neck inlays. Most of these are red but mine is blue, and matches the 'stang. 1969 Epiphone Rivoli bass. Semi-acoustic, with a custom second pick-up, and two outs so you can play it through two amps. Nice and easy to play with a short scale. Natural finish. 1986 Shergold Marathon 6-string bass. On a Peter Hook tip. Natural finish, and one of the very last ones made (I think it's the penultimate one of around 100 built). Bought it from the Shergold factory wen it was closing down. 196? Hofner Verithin semi-acoustic. Red. Great beat combo guitar - almost impossible to play through an amp of any size as the micrphonic pick-ups start to feed back - unless it's feedbnack you're after, of course ;-). The trick is to stuff it with bloth through the f-holes apparently. 196? Baldwin semi-acoustic 12-string. Looks great - 335-style - though it doesn't stay in tune! Acquisition of the Electric XII rendered it redundant, but I haven't the heart to part with it... As for amps, I've just got a couple of practice combops - a nice Marshall one and a little Squier thing I picked up at a boot sale. Not reqally in much of a position to crank up the volume at present! While I'm a strictly 2-fingered keyboard player, I've got a few decent things, including an original 60s Vox Continental organ (bought off a disillusioned mod band in the early 90s); an ARP Quartet string synth, a Roland SH101 mono synth and a heap of little Casio/Yamaha cheapo keyboards acquired along the way (car boot sales etc), the finest of which is the Casio VL-tone, of course! There's also a couple of drum machines (TR606 and TR505) and a TB303, which can all be linked up with a Kenton midi-Din converter box. And a set of Mattel syndrums (like a Simmonds syndrum for 1/20 the price - they cost #49.99 Mustn't forget the Melodica, after the fine Melodica thread of a while back. I still have an old Tascam 244 portastudio, and while I wouldn't use it to record on now you can still use the mixer element of it to good effect by routing the instruments through it. Next job: get act together and install M-Audio soundcard thing with breakout box into new computer.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 17:53:17 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] musos!! On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 12:37:26PM -0400, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > Next job: get act together and install M-Audio soundcard thing with breakout > box into new computer.... My M-Audio external soundcard (Firewire Audiophile) is *really* excellent. - - A, jealous of anyone with original EH pedals - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 10pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:55:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] musos!! Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: - - A, jealous of anyone with original EH pedals /// They don't come much more original than this: I bought it for #49 quid in summer of 1977, about two days after I heard one for the very first time, & I think the week they came out in the UK. ! It was *such* an ear-opening epiphany, I knew I just HAD to have one: I'd been using an old Ibanez Phasetone for modulation effects , when what I was *really* hearing in my head was the Sound of an EH flanger. I was the first person in my town, (and very likely county) to use one live. I've been offered a king's ransom for it, (well nearly;-) slightly less since they re-issued them), but my all-original external 18Volt adaptor-powered E.M. would have to be prized from my cold, clammy hand..... A beast. ;-) New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 23:45:57 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] musos!! > I still have an old Tascam 244 portastudio, and while I wouldn't use it to > record on now you can still use the mixer element of it to good effect by > routing the instruments through it. > > Mark Threw my old one on the tip just a few weeks ago. It hadn't worked for yrs, but it was still hard to do. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 19:50:11 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] musos!! >>Threw my old one on the tip just a few weeks ago. It hadn't worked for yrs, but it was still hard to do<< Good things, portastudios. You should have stripped the knobs off it though - - useful as replacements for mixers etc.... Hope mine keeps on working as I've a few tapes that have never been mixed down - so only exist as double-speed portastudio tapes! Hope you gave it a decent send-off. I've recently had an old (1986-vintage) video die on me - can't bring myself to chuck it out! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:02:51 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] musos!! >>/// They don't come much more original than this: I bought it for #49 quid in summer of 1977, about two days after I heard one for the very first time, & I think the week they came out in the UK. ! It was *such* an ear-opening epiphany, I knew I just HAD to have one: I'd been using an old Ibanez Phasetone for modulation effects , when what I was *really* hearing in my head was the Sound of an EH flanger. I was the first person in my town, (and very likely county) to use one live. I've been offered a king's ransom for it, (well nearly;-) slightly less since they re-issued them), but my all-original external 18Volt adaptor-powered E.M. would have to be prized from my cold, clammy hand..... A beast. ;-) << Certainly an essential post-punk sound - loads of people used them (or the slightly less metallic-sounding MXR flanger - that was what John McGeogh had on the music stand when he was in the Banshees.) There were two variants of Electric Mistress; I've had both of 'em. The first was a battery-operated one with the knobs at the top, which I "borrowed" for some time from a flatmate at college. He offered to sell it to me - but I couldn't afford it at the time. So when I got a job one of the first things I bought was another one - this time a mains version with the knobs down the side. Apart from having to replace the power input about 10 years ago, it's still going strong after 20 years. Can't remember what I paid for it - it was secondhand. Probably about #60 or so. All the EH pedals have recently been reissued - they're about #150 these days. Used to be much cheaper secondhand in the late 80s when nobody wanted them. Paid #25 for a memory man deluxe in about 1989. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:26:59 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Liars wow...i just picked up a copy of the Liars second disc: "They Were Wrong So We Drowned" .......it absolutely smokes the first album.....it sounds as if This Heat,The Pop Group, PIL, Faust,Gang of Four, Throbbing Gristle, and Coil were thrown into a witches cauldron and boiled into a venemous concoction post-post-punk-poison..... Don't hear a lot of TG or their spin-offs in there - do hear a lot of Birthday Party and specifically third-album PiL. They were excellent at Triptych - less 'in your face' without the bass, but probably a more interetsing band for it. You might have appreciated Angus' nurse's outfit too, Robert ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 02:36:19 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] musos!! Aye, Heres a longshot.... While I do my Electronic Music thang , I still have my old Bass and my beloved (cheapo) Vox Standard and really miss playing in a 'beat combo' which I haven't done for 6 years or so. I'm well up for finding a band an 'occasional band'..i.e people who have mortgages, kids and commitments like normal people so aren't looking to be the next Oasis, but also want to play interesting, experimental but good music (like abnormal people!) and do the odd (very odd) gig and make a CD or two. Wonder if some of us Muso IdealCopyists wanna meet up for....well not a Jam...maye a dugga and see what emerges. I'd happily book rehearsal space if anyones up for it. And this need not be confined to the UK. An old pal I used to DJ with is now in The Earlies, who did their LP from two sides of the atlantic exchanging files between Texas and Manchester. Maybe we can have two Dugga's on both sides of the pond........ (TR fed up of trying to find local musicians...everyone wants to be a bass slappin' Hot Chilli Pepper or Badly Drawn Bobbins) Another PipeDream? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 07:17:42 +0100 From: Bunny Smedley Subject: [idealcopy] Iain Sinclair Many of us will already be aware of the connections between Wire and London writer Iain Sinclair - e.g. Wire9s performance at Sinclair9s M25 event and Bruce Gilbert9s sound effects for the spoken word CD of Downriver. There is an interesting comment on this in The Verbals, a recently published book of interviews with Iain Sinclair compiled by Kevin Jackson: KJ: I suppose that generally I don9t associate you very much with an interest in music, at least not the mainstream variety. About the only connection that comes to mind would be the sort of fringe, experimental rock musicians who take part in performances like your Barbican M25 event - Scanner, the KLF people ... IS: Well, they9ve always come to me, and obliquely, via a guy called Paul Smith, a concert promoter and secret genius behind the Blast First and King Mob labels. I wouldn9t have come across them otherwise. I really like listening to it - Bruce Gilbert of Wire, particularly, I find amazing. I find his hungry way with sound obsessive and mind-warping. He9s been vital to the films we9ve done with Chris Petit. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #228 *******************************