From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #213 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, July 20 2004 Volume 07 : Number 213 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #212 was Sufferin' USA ["mileta okilj] Re: [idealcopy] Found the Chairs [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [idealcopy] Low Heartbeat ["Keith Astbury" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:24:00 +0200 From: "mileta okiljevic" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #212 was Sufferin' USA Well, last David Sylvian single with Riuchie Sakamoto was World Citizien, from horse mouth.. it is matvellous hao he was( more directly with buddhism) use suffering, NY harbour... i hope that David is yr. big inspiration, even Fenesz covered his song (written together, to be honest..) also on single was some darlings here Blonde Redhead nice try, btw, i downloaded.. 11.09.03 "Some months back Ryuichi instigated the chain-music project. A chain letter in musical form, anti-war in origination. He originally asked me to write a set of lyrics for the project. Initially I felt apprehensive about taking on such weighty subject matter lyrically. In a very real sense this approach to lyric writing is the antithesis to my own. I also happened to be travelling at the time the request reached me so, reluctantly, I felt I had to turn it down. However, as the week wore on I found myself pacing the streets of London with the beginnings of an idea for a piece called 'World Citizen'. On my return to the US, I found the chain-music composition waiting for me. My immediate response to the piece was to repeat two lines at the heart of the composition, one of which was the phrase 'World Citizen'. The title resonated in a simple way. A necessary redirection of focus away from the national towards the global. That evening I penned the song 'World Citizen'. I recorded a one-take demo a week later and sent an MP3 file to Ryuichi to see if, in his opinion, the piece was worth pursuing. The initial response was muted. A few days later Ryuichi said that he liked the concept of 'World Citizen' and wondered if we couldn't write a more pop orientated piece with the same title. After a few false starts Ryu sent a loop of a sampled piano. To this I composed and recorded the lyric and melody of the song and returned the files to Ryuichi. He passed them onto Harumi Hosono and Yukihiro Takahashi (Sketch Show) who made valuable contributions to the piece. It was at this time that Ryuichi called and suggested we record the version of 'World Citizen' I'd originally sent to him. We spent a week putting the piece together in NY with Skuli Sverrisson (Laurie Anderson) on bass, Amedeo Pace (Blonde Redhead) on guitar and Steve Jansen on drums. Ryuichi and I mixed the piece together in NY. The following week Ryuichi returned to the composition now known as 'World Citizen (I won't be disappointed)', finally making a connection with the song, completing it with rhythm, melody and producing the final mix." David Sylvian September 2003. 05.11.03 World Citizen (Words by David Sylvian) There goes one baby's life It's such a small amount She's un-American I guess it doesn't count Six thousand children's lives Were simply thrown away Lost without medicine Inside of thirty days In the New York harbour Where the stock's withheld It was the price we paid For a safer world World is suffering World is suffering World is suffering World citizen In Madhya Pradesh Where they're building dams They're displacing native people From their homes and lands So they hunger strike Cos they believe they count To lose a single life Is such a small amount In the name of progress And democracy The concepts represented in name only His world is suffering Her world is suffering Their world is suffering World citizen World citizen And the buildings fall In a cloud of dust And we ask ourselves How could they hate us? Well, when we live in ignorance and luxury While our super powers practice Puppet mastery We raise the men Who run the fascist states And we sell them arms So they maintain their place We turn our backs On the things they done Their human rights record And the guns they run His world is suffering Her world is suffering Their world is suffering World citizen My world is suffering Your world is suffering Our world is suffering World citizen Who'll do away with flags? Who'll do us proud? Remove the money from their pockets Scream dissent out loud? Cos god ain't on our side The shoe won't fit And though they think the war is won That's not the last of it Disenfranchised people Need their voices heard And if no one stops to listen Lose their faith in words And violence rises When all hope is lost Who'll embrace the human spirit And absorb the cost? Not one life is taken In my name In my name His world is suffering Her world is suffering Their world is suffering World citizen My world is suffering Your world is suffering Our world is suffering World citizen ) 2003 by David Sylvian/Opium (Arts) Ltd > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:44:09 +0100 > From: "Garry P" > Subject: [idealcopy] Sufferin' USA > > Good day all you IC'ers. > > A friend & I were having a joky exchange about the first noble truth of > Buddhism (there is suffering) the other day, during which he suggested > 'Sufferin' USA' as a song title. The idea wouldn't leave me alone, and here > is the fruit of my subsequent labours: > > http://www.astrozero.co.uk/music.htm > > A 1.3mb mp3 download. This is just me & my computer so don't expect too > much. All the same, I'd be interested in any positive feedback (and in the > context of my music-making career, 'Go away you're rubbish' would be mildly > positive...) > > GarryP ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:44:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Found the Chairs On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, fernando wrote: > I have not checked Futureheads... but HHH keeps popping up in a few > posts here and elswhere. I got the impression that they were part of > the new wave revival (Radio 4, etc.), which has not caught me in any > good way so far. We may be speaking at cross-purposes here... they are somewhat like Radio 4, but I wouldn't have called that "new wave". But I hear a lot of that same sort of retro style in Mclusky. Opinions may differ. > PS "eecs.harvard.edu" -- gosh, I thought that harvard had given up on > EE quite a long time ago. Apparently not. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:29:54 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Low Heartbeat Only heard about this release a few days before your email* Really looking forward to it. And not just their version of Heartbeat which I've not heard (though it somehow makes sense that they would pick that track out of all Wire's to cover). BTW As a matter of interest, Tim, where did you get it for #18 as I may be in Manchester the next week or so. * (didn't know the Blue Nile had a new album coming out either until yesterday). Keith np Moz - you are the quarry (and loving it!) From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Low Heartbeat > Low's new Rarities/Outtakes box-set includes a rather fine, previously > unreleased cover of 'Heartbeat'. They slow it right down (of course), > and add a soaraway melody to the vocals but retain a distinctly Wire-y > guitar thrum. > > Box set is v.good value as well, 3 CDs of hard to find stuff/outtakes > etc. plus a double-sided DVD with documentary films on one side, and > promos/live stuff on the other, all for #18. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:55:57 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Low Heartbeat for the record , this is on soulseek already and i got it last night. not bad , but not #18 worth..... :-) p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:34:35 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Low Heartbeat PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > for the record , this is on soulseek already and i got it last night. not bad > , but not #18 worth..... :-) p > Er.....I meant good value for 3 Cds and a DVD if you happen to be fan of Low as well as Wire. Please send Low a postal order for #1 if you happen to download the track... ;) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #213 *******************************