From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #212 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, July 19 2004 Volume 07 : Number 212 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] The Great Dichotomy of Pop ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] The Great Dichotomy of Pop ["j.hobson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Sufferin' USA [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re: map ref [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] map ref [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] Sufferin' USA [Bart van Damme ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:01:05 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The Great Dichotomy of Pop >the *only* remotely 'new-wavish' thing in evidence was the Radio Stars single "Dirty Pictures", which contained the immortal >couplet "I get my thrills up in the attic/ With a Kodak Instamatic". Dirty Pictures!! Neat little single. Only got the re-recorded version that was on the free 7" with the debut LP, but I used to like it a lot. That couplet brings to mind one of my fave JC Clarke moments. Something like... In an instamatic living room of sin flesh the colour of potato's too bad they couldn't fit her in. Or something like that ; ) >Even John's voice is different:- he sounds either like the torpid music had got to him, or the lad had eaten a Mandrax >sandwich. Yeah, his voice has *really* changed somewhere along the line. If you hear him reading the nonsensical stories on the Ty Rex stuff, it's totally different. Much more of a hippy-like drawl and a much higher pitch. Maybe he was a late developer ; ) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:44:09 +0100 From: "Garry P" Subject: [idealcopy] Sufferin' USA Good day all you IC'ers. A friend & I were having a joky exchange about the first noble truth of Buddhism (there is suffering) the other day, during which he suggested 'Sufferin' USA' as a song title. The idea wouldn't leave me alone, and here is the fruit of my subsequent labours: http://www.astrozero.co.uk/music.htm A 1.3mb mp3 download. This is just me & my computer so don't expect too much. All the same, I'd be interested in any positive feedback (and in the context of my music-making career, 'Go away you're rubbish' would be mildly positive...) GarryP ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:26:14 +0100 From: "j.hobson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The Great Dichotomy of Pop - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Astbury" > >Even John's voice is different:- he sounds either like the torpid music had > got to him, or the lad had eaten a Mandrax >sandwich. > > Yeah, his voice has *really* changed somewhere along the line. If you hear > him reading the nonsensical stories on the Ty Rex stuff, it's totally > different. Much more of a hippy-like drawl and a much higher pitch. Maybe he > was a late developer ; ) Peel sometimes plays his early DJ shows from Dallas in 1963 in which he has a very educated Public Schoolboy plummy accent talking about the blues...and for those that don't know, Peel is one of the bystanders when Lee Harvey Oswald was killed by Jack Ruby. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:43:04 +0100 From: "Garry P" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Sufferin' USA I can't play anything (in the literal sense, not in the musician-being-modest sense) which is quite an influence! It means that there's none of the shaping and structuring you'd get in yer average track. I mean, I do things, but I generally don't know what I'm doing, I just know whether I like it when I've finished. Maybe that accounts for the 'what were you on' quality... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monochromatic Man" To: "Garry P" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 6:31 PM Subject: **SPAM: Re: [idealcopy] Sufferin' USA What were you on? I find this very interesting. Cheers, Billy - --- Garry P wrote: > Good day all you IC'ers. > > A friend & I were having a joky exchange about the > first noble truth of > Buddhism (there is suffering) the other day, during > which he suggested > 'Sufferin' USA' as a song title. The idea wouldn't > leave me alone, and here > is the fruit of my subsequent labours: > > http://www.astrozero.co.uk/music.htm > > A 1.3mb mp3 download. This is just me & my computer > so don't expect too > much. All the same, I'd be interested in any > positive feedback (and in the > context of my music-making career, 'Go away you're > rubbish' would be mildly > positive...) > > GarryP > ===== http://home.earthlink.net/~xj23/ http://home.earthlink.net/~2signs/ ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:19 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Sufferin' USA In a message dated 7/18/04 7:33:25 AM, astrozero@btinternet.com writes: << 'Go away you're rubbish' >> ??? i think it's marvelous! and you've got a pleasant sounding voice too. pat yourself on the back. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:46:44 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: map ref i've been enjoying the whole confluence project site, but one thing that surprised me is how few of the points (especially in the northeastern u.s.) are not in residential or even commercial areas. nearly all are in woods or forests, out in fields, or in unpopulated areas off or near roads. so i got curious about urban exploration and came across this interesting site, though not nearly as in depth with the descriptions of all the places, the photos alone are quite intriguing. www.darkpassage.com - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:14:00 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] map ref Hmm, nice piece of "ruine romantik" Paul! It has always fascinated me too - made lots of photos. To me this illness seems to be a bit of a guy-thing. Bart > i've been enjoying the whole confluence project site, but one thing that > surprised me is how few of the points (especially in the northeastern u.s.) > are > not in residential or even commercial areas. nearly all are in woods or > forests, > out in fields, or in unpopulated areas off or near roads. > > so i got curious about urban exploration and came across this interesting > site, though not nearly as in depth with the descriptions of all the places, > the > photos alone are quite intriguing. > > www.darkpassage.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:33:34 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Sufferin' USA You've certainly made my monday morning Garry - hats of! Bart > A friend & I were having a joky exchange about the > first noble truth of > Buddhism (there is suffering) the other day, during > which he suggested > 'Sufferin' USA' as a song title. The idea wouldn't > leave me alone, and here > is the fruit of my subsequent labours: > > http://www.astrozero.co.uk/music.htm > > A 1.3mb mp3 download. This is just me & my computer > so don't expect too > much. All the same, I'd be interested in any > positive feedback (and in the > context of my music-making career, 'Go away you're > rubbish' would be mildly > positive...) > > GarryP ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #212 *******************************