From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #205 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, July 12 2004 Volume 07 : Number 205 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] [OT] Map ref... ["Keith Knight" ] RE: [idealcopy] 1st fast, 2nd nature, 3rd degree [MarkBursa@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] 1st fast, 2nd nature, 3rd degree ["Keith Knight" ] RE: [idealcopy] 1st fast, 2nd nature, 3rd degree [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] 1st fast, 2nd nature, 3rd degree [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:34:46 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [OT] Map ref... Thanks Andrew - an extraordinary site. It's good to know there are people out there doing this sort of obsessive thing. And our Map Ref looks a little unprepossessing doesn't it? Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Walkingshaw Sent: 09 July 2004 15:52 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] [OT] Map ref... http://confluence.org/confluence.php?lat=41&lon=-93 - - A - -- Dept of Earth Sciences, Univ. Cambridge ::: http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk ::: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ Random Walk, 10pm Wednesdays, CUR1350 ::: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:18:03 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] post-punk 12 >>> I heard he played on Kewpies like Watermelon by Urusei Yatsura >> Best Pavement/SY clones around! Haven't heard 'em in a while. >> Heard they broke up a few years ago, true? > True, but three of them are now in Projekt A-ko > (http://www.projekta-ko.co.uk/). Hmm, online I listened to their Ichiro on 3rd... no surprises, sounded just like Urusei Yatsura (with a hint of Metal Guru). Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:59:57 -0400 From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: RE: [idealcopy] 1st fast, 2nd nature, 3rd degree >>Contextually, for me at the time there were four great albums in 78 - the others were The Modern Dance, Dub Housing and Metal Box. << Er, Metal Box was late '79. Great 78 albums - Real Life, the Scream, Love Bites. Though at the time I was probably more likely to be enthusing about Give 'em enough rope or All mod cons. Never seen Dub Housing as that much of a classic either - certainly not in the same league as The Modern Dance... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:36:25 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] 1st fast, 2nd nature, 3rd degree Duh - yeah of course. To revisit those top albums: 78 - The Scream / Ubu x 2 / Another Music in a Different Kitchen 79 - Unknown Pleasures / 154 / Metal Box / The B-52s My mind's going. I used to be able to remember this stuff with absolute clarity. I've just had to check lists made at the time. Christ. I could never put one of Dan's cigarette cards between the first two Ubu albums for excellence. Love them both. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of MarkBursa@aol.com Sent: 11 July 2004 16:00 To: "Keith Knight"; "'Andrew Walkingshaw'"; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: RE: [idealcopy] 1st fast, 2nd nature, 3rd degree >>Contextually, for me at the time there were four great albums in 78 - the others were The Modern Dance, Dub Housing and Metal Box. << Er, Metal Box was late '79. Great 78 albums - Real Life, the Scream, Love Bites. Though at the time I was probably more likely to be enthusing about Give 'em enough rope or All mod cons. Never seen Dub Housing as that much of a classic either - certainly not in the same league as The Modern Dance... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:29:24 -0700 From: fernando Subject: [idealcopy] [OT] Franz Ferdinand There is a bit of buzz about them here... I had not heard them until now. This is where I found the Glasto show... the bit rate is low, on an otherwise good recording (live broadcast, I presume). cheers! - -fernando http://www.redpenguin.net/glastonbury.php ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:53:45 -0400 From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: RE: [idealcopy] 1st fast, 2nd nature, 3rd degree >>My mind's going. I used to be able to remember this stuff with absolute clarity. I've just had to check lists made at the time. Christ.<< Know the feeling. oddly the stupid stuff like the name of the band that supported the Fall at the Chorley Tatton Community Centre in 1980, or the name of the keyboard player in I'm so Hollow remains in my head, but important stuff (returning calls, writing invoices etc) get forgotten ;-) >>I could never put one of Dan's cigarette cards between the first two Ubu albums for excellence. Love them both.<< Love the start of DH (Navvy) but it kind of tails off..whereas TMD doesn't miss a beat. Still, an excuse to play it again! 1979 was simply fantastic. It was the year I left school (cause for celebration in itself) and had a job, which meant I could spend serious money on records for the first time in my life. Nice timing - remember albums I wanted being released almost daily, including the following... Unknown Pleasures 154 Secondhand Daylight Three Imaginary Boys Voice of America Live at the Witch Trials AND Dragnet Entertainment Metal Box The Psychedelic Furs (may have been very early '80) A different kind of tension (ditto) London Calling Setting Sons etc... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 22:35:45 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 1st fast, 2nd nature, 3rd degree In a message dated 7/11/04 8:56:40 PM, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: << the name of the keyboard player in I'm so Hollow remains in my head >> i remember liking them. can't remember the names of the songs though! i know i have a 7" of theirs around here somewhere. so who was in i'm so hollow? connections to other bands? - -paul c.d. p.s. i can't remember any opening bands from fall gigs, but i do remember the first time i saw the fall...they opened for buzzcocks at the old palladium in ny. same place on the london calling album cover. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #205 *******************************