From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #151 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, May 19 2004 Volume 07 : Number 151 Today's Subjects: ----------------- AW: [idealcopy] Buzzcocks DVD ["Woerner Frank-Juergen" Subject: AW: [idealcopy] Buzzcocks DVD -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] Im Auftrag von Bart van Damme > Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mdrz 2004 14:05 > An: wire-news > Betreff: Re: [idealcopy] Buzzcocks DVD > > > Ich bin ein Frankfurter? (Hamburger?) > > Bart > > > > of course, add all those together & space's "i am unlike a > lifeform you've > > ever met" seems strikingly apposite ... > > > > i am a rock, > > > > dan Ich bin ein Frank 'n' further Bavarian. Ich bin ein Berliner aka Donut. regards, Frank now and then on idealcopy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:43:46 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Phillip=20Blakeney?= Subject: [idealcopy] Virgin Prunes and Colin Newman Ideal Copy-ists who (like me) followed the Colin Newman production link to discover a particular fondness for the Virgin Prunes (and I know there are a few of us at least) will know that historically the VPs were very unhappy (at the time) with Colin 'commercialising' their sound for "If I Die I Die". I myself, happen to think Colin's production created a masterwork!! Anyway, after many years of OOP status the VPs back catalogue is being remastered for reissue soon on our very own Mute label. The following quote sourced from the Gavin Friday 'Heaven' internet list, referring to amongst other CDs "I Die", indicates a thawing of old emities at least as far as Gavin Friday is concerned: "Gavin's in London doing the final mastering. He's also put a lot of time in doing the art work - we'll get to see a lot of images we'd not seen before. There's going to be some 'new' material too (I think there's one completely new song on it, and some demo versions). Mute are looking into doing a 12". I've forgotten which song, but Gavin will be asking Colin Newman to do the remix. The discs will be released separately - there won't be a boxed set (yet)...". Ideal Copyists might be also be interested that Mileta bobs upon on 'Heaven' every now and then. Phillip from Australia - --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:50:23 -0700 From: "Matt Hursh" Subject: [idealcopy] New(ish) Wire interview http://www.buddyhead.com/music/wire/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:44:14 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Limited Wire content: someone at a record company's going to swing for this OK I'm up for the challenge - Mcluskey and A Silver Mt Zion are starters for ten. Ash, Graham Coxon and Morrissey are definites. The Charlatans probably (although not a band which have ever done anything for me). That's six. I suppose Klang have Idealcopy interest (although my interest is in seeing them forcibly retired having suffered their inability to spark any interest three times live). Gomez? If so, a fringe taste I'd have thought, although I don't mind their first album at all. That's eight. I'd throw in Kathryn Williams whose new covers album I'm thinking of buying (anyone who covers Pavement is worth supporting in my book). But there may be Ron Sexsmith fans here. Not me though. And there's a tempting Curve collection out. Hmm it is a big week. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Walkingshaw Sent: 17 May 2004 10:39 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Limited Wire content: someone at a record company's going to swing for this Dear all, In the UK, we have the first real heavy chart album scheduling pileup of the year today; by my count we have nine records out today which /either/ you'd expect to chart or have some IdealCopy interest (or in some cases, maybe both)... Of those, a couple of interesting points; in the new McLusky record (it's excellent, by the way) there's thankyous to one "Newman C" and one "Wire" in the acknowledgements; and, staggeringly, the new A Silver Mt. Zion has priority shelf spacing (facing the door on the centre shelf at eye-level, just under the new Morrissey record) in Cambridge Fopp. (Someone in the shop must like it; I can't see Constellation getting involved in shelf-space payola...) - - Andrew - -- Dept of Earth Sciences, Univ. Cambridge ::: http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk ::: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ Random Walk, 10pm Wednesdays, CUR1350 ::: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:44:39 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Limited Wire content: someone at a record company's going to swing for this OK I'm up for the challenge - Mcluskey and A Silver Mt Zion are starters for ten. Ash, Graham Coxon and Morrissey are definites. The Charlatans probably (although not a band which have ever done anything for me). That's six. I suppose Klang have Idealcopy interest (although my interest is in seeing them forcibly retired having suffered their inability to spark any interest three times live). Gomez? If so, a fringe taste I'd have thought, although I don't mind their first album at all. That's eight. I'd throw in Kathryn Williams whose new covers album I'm thinking of buying (anyone who covers Pavement is worth supporting in my book). But there may be Ron Sexsmith fans here. Not me though. And there's a tempting Curve collection out. Hmm it is a big week. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Walkingshaw Sent: 17 May 2004 10:39 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Limited Wire content: someone at a record company's going to swing for this Dear all, In the UK, we have the first real heavy chart album scheduling pileup of the year today; by my count we have nine records out today which /either/ you'd expect to chart or have some IdealCopy interest (or in some cases, maybe both)... Of those, a couple of interesting points; in the new McLusky record (it's excellent, by the way) there's thankyous to one "Newman C" and one "Wire" in the acknowledgements; and, staggeringly, the new A Silver Mt. Zion has priority shelf spacing (facing the door on the centre shelf at eye-level, just under the new Morrissey record) in Cambridge Fopp. (Someone in the shop must like it; I can't see Constellation getting involved in shelf-space payola...) - - Andrew - -- Dept of Earth Sciences, Univ. Cambridge ::: http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk ::: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ Random Walk, 10pm Wednesdays, CUR1350 ::: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 20:45:03 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Limited Wire content: someone at a record company's going to swing for this OK I'm up for the challenge - Mcluskey and A Silver Mt Zion are starters for ten. Ash, Graham Coxon and Morrissey are definites. The Charlatans probably (although not a band which have ever done anything for me). That's six. I suppose Klang have Idealcopy interest (although my interest is in seeing them forcibly retired having suffered their inability to spark any interest three times live). Gomez? If so, a fringe taste I'd have thought, although I don't mind their first album at all. That's eight. I'd throw in Kathryn Williams whose new covers album I'm thinking of buying (anyone who covers Pavement is worth supporting in my book). But there may be Ron Sexsmith fans here. Not me though. And there's a tempting Curve collection out. Hmm it is a big week. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Walkingshaw Sent: 17 May 2004 10:39 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Limited Wire content: someone at a record company's going to swing for this Dear all, In the UK, we have the first real heavy chart album scheduling pileup of the year today; by my count we have nine records out today which /either/ you'd expect to chart or have some IdealCopy interest (or in some cases, maybe both)... Of those, a couple of interesting points; in the new McLusky record (it's excellent, by the way) there's thankyous to one "Newman C" and one "Wire" in the acknowledgements; and, staggeringly, the new A Silver Mt. Zion has priority shelf spacing (facing the door on the centre shelf at eye-level, just under the new Morrissey record) in Cambridge Fopp. (Someone in the shop must like it; I can't see Constellation getting involved in shelf-space payola...) - - Andrew - -- Dept of Earth Sciences, Univ. Cambridge ::: http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk ::: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ Random Walk, 10pm Wednesdays, CUR1350 ::: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:02:47 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Limited Wire content: someone at a record company's going to swing for this OK I'm up for the challenge - Mcluskey and A Silver Mt Zion are starters for ten. Ash, Graham Coxon and Morrissey are definites. The Charlatans probably (although not a band which have ever done anything for me). That's six. I suppose Klang have Idealcopy interest (although my interest is in seeing them forcibly retired having suffered their inability to spark any interest three times live). Gomez? If so, a fringe taste I'd have thought, although I don't mind their first album at all. That's eight. I'd throw in Kathryn Williams whose new covers album I'm thinking of buying (anyone who covers Pavement is worth supporting in my book). But there may be Ron Sexsmith fans here. Not me though. And there's a tempting Curve collection out. Hmm it is a big week. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Walkingshaw Sent: 17 May 2004 10:39 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Limited Wire content: someone at a record company's going to swing for this Dear all, In the UK, we have the first real heavy chart album scheduling pileup of the year today; by my count we have nine records out today which /either/ you'd expect to chart or have some IdealCopy interest (or in some cases, maybe both)... Of those, a couple of interesting points; in the new McLusky record (it's excellent, by the way) there's thankyous to one "Newman C" and one "Wire" in the acknowledgements; and, staggeringly, the new A Silver Mt. Zion has priority shelf spacing (facing the door on the centre shelf at eye-level, just under the new Morrissey record) in Cambridge Fopp. (Someone in the shop must like it; I can't see Constellation getting involved in shelf-space payola...) - - Andrew - -- Dept of Earth Sciences, Univ. Cambridge ::: http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk ::: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ Random Walk, 10pm Wednesdays, CUR1350 ::: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:24:55 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Limited Wire content: someone at a record company's going to swing for this On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 09:02:47PM +0100, Keith Knight wrote: > OK I'm up for the challenge - Mcluskey and A Silver Mt Zion are starters > for ten. Ash, Graham Coxon and Morrissey are definites. The Charlatans > probably (although not a band which have ever done anything for me). > That's six. I suppose Klang have Idealcopy interest (although my > interest is in seeing them forcibly retired having suffered their > inability to spark any interest three times live). I was thinking: potential IC interest - McLusky, ASMZ, Kathryn Williams, Coxon (though two of those are from the IC Radical Pop/Folk Front; ie, probably just me and maybe Keith A for the Coxon record :)) Chart-botherers - Alanis bloody Morissette, Gomez, Charlatans, Ash though I didn't realise about the Klang record. There's a To Rococo Rot album out too, plus Fennesz depending on local distribution (I still haven't seen a copy of "Venice", and I want to get it badly.) It's a ridiculous album week. Of the four records which landed in my lap on Monday; McLusky is bloody excellent, Coxon is very good, but much more "Blur" than any of his previous solo work, the Mission of Burma album is to my ears (and I've heard *no* MoB before) very good indeed, and the Mozzer album is, well, a decent Mozzer album. - - Andrew - -- Dept of Earth Sciences, Univ. Cambridge ::: http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk ::: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ Random Walk, 10pm Wednesdays, CUR1350 ::: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:29:05 EDT From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] I'll bet no one knew..... In a message dated 5/15/2004 5:25:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, steeleknight@lineone.net writes: > By which I mean he keeps to formal > song structures (pop, country, blues based) - he never wigs out Hmmm. Give a listen to some of the demos from IB released on the 2 cd version. Little bita wigging [Kinda like latter day Shatner] going on, one small clip of which survived the remake into the final version as released. Current output is, as described here, a little too "pipe 'n' slippers." billy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:47:14 EDT From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Lali Puna, KaitO & Tortoise In a message dated 5/10/2004 7:42:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ad_Roon@hotmail.com writes: > Blixa gave an announcement that Neubauten are performing their last US tour > due to Clear Channel and the general loss of money. > What kind of organisation is that? Clear Channel is an enormous multimedia conglomerate - owns radio, tv, billboards, does concert promotion, etc. Currently sucking massive amounts of dick over at the Federal Communications Commission because of "indecency" enforcement actions relating to radio broadcasts featuring human anatomy and functions. Antitrust and FCC licensing problems will kill them, so they have to make nice with the bureaucrats for the nonce. Also no doubt shelling out carloads of cash to our legislators for the same reasons. Responsible for the death of commercial radio, the ascendancy of consultants, playlists and formats crushed so tight they become a black hole of festering mediocrity. Billy np: Luke Vibert/BJ Cole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 02:12:49 +0100 From: Tim Subject: [idealcopy] Libertine Shit (Silo Content) I hear one of the Libertines is in Rehab again. http://www.nme.com/news/108521.htm Another useless, wasteful fuckup is now surrounded by more nurses than yer average NHS cancer patient in case he tries to OD. Is it me or are The Libertines the most massively uninteresting band ever to be rabidly championed by the NME (the last of the inkies). I'm not THAT old. All I hear is crap Morrissey b-sides, played a bit faster with a bit of Strokes-retro-boring-lets-pretend-its-1979 production value. Seems the more drugs they take the more excited the NME gets. They claim The Libertines speak for 'Working Class Kids'. Patronising Bullshit...unless the 'kids' just wanna take smack and listen to half-baked 70s Clash retreads and cockney rejects. Its all in the Drugs. Its what Happy Mondays would have sounded like if they had SHIT music taste and had never met Martin Hannett and John Cale. Now, for example, are Silo not a band who the NME isn't remotely interested in who are really fucking brilliant and actually have something NEW to offer their MUSICAL EXPRESS. All Colin Newman needs to do is get someone from Silo to get a Crack habit, start acting like a total dick, fuck up a few gigs, vomit a lot and like, break some stuff, and they will be the biggest band on earth. NP Throbbing Gristle...now theres a rock and roll band for you. Yer Libertine would go - duh wheres the dumb stones lick and the comfy Sham69 punky bit..this is really bringing me DOWN man....gimme some more coke.......... ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #151 *******************************